The IdrA Fan Club - Page 293

On March 28 2011 12:47 Mataza wrote:

Only under the assumption that all these players are consistently good. FruitDealer, Genius, NesTea and MVP for example all got knocked out in group stage last GSL and MVP even got knocked down to Code A. Personally I think MKP would have won over MVP if he(thats MarineKing) didn´t for some reason stop using his trademark playstyle and try to win the final by playing "standard". Just my opinion and offtopic too.

Come to think of it, it is a bit on topic: If Idras style wouldn´t be macroing up to 200/200 while surviving, then kill him with better economy, he could be more successful.
If you want to have the unstoppable 200/200 army, just play protoss. The fact that colossi stack with air and ground on the same spot makes it the most compact army. Colossi only have unit collision with other colossi, like they´re in some kind of freak space between ground and air.
My point is, recently people like julyzerg have shown that zerg can wear down t and p just by continuosly attacking, making the 300 food push obsolete. If you can do the same thing better at 80-100 food, why wait for maxed armies?

While I´m ranting, even if there is a most optimal buildorder/playstyle for a race depending or not depending on maps, every buildorder will have inherent weaknesses that can be figured out. If there was a playstyle/buildorder without any weakness, it would make sc2 a bad game.
Compared to rock paper scissors, if there is one option that´s better than the others, you can have mind games. Rock is good, so I want to play it. But he expects me to play rock, so he will choose paper. I counter that with playing the very weak option scissors that beats paper.
If, say, you could play rock so well it would beat paper, the game would become very old very fast. If you would need to cut your hand off to play scissors, paper would become the only option, even though rock is actually better.
And Idra basically plays paper every game, since scissors is stupid. Logically everyone should play rock, so paper beats that.

It makes me cringe because I really think Idra has world class mechanics, refined buildorders and superior micro. Its just this religious believe that one and only one good buildorder should be able to beat everything that let´s bad players beat him with badly executed buildorders that are chosen because they counter his buildorder in some or the other.
/rant

On March 28 2011 10:04 xaneda wrote:

Idra indeed lost because of incorrect assumptions. Glad we could agree.

he could not scout

On March 28 2011 13:50 anonmice wrote:

i agree with that, but he did scout, if you watch it again idra had lings in front of his base. i just think that he could have reacted better.

On March 28 2011 13:57 stalefish wrote:
Its kinda humorous how accurate Chill's statement was about the SC2 community often bandwagoning behind certain players after they take one big win, AFter cruncher wins there is a cruncher fanclub, after Adelscott wins there is instantly a fanclub for him also, then people will just be soon to forget about these players if they dont win anymore.

I like IdrA because he is consistent, and once this game gets figured out more players who rely on a more solid style like him will be at the top.

On March 28 2011 14:17 Swixi wrote:

It's quite odd, honestly. The Cruncher fan club is like a rally of people who hate IdrA. Notice how literally every post and link is related to IdrA and not Cruncher's play. They're using Cruncher as a tool to express how they love to see IdrA get a "taste of his own medicine" (even though IdrA would never gloat about beating someone with an easy to execute timing attack).

It's also similar to the Adelscott fanclub that popped up after Mvp's loss. People see a guy win a couple games (even while playing poorly), but since it's against a huge player, BOOM - fan club. Like you said, these fan clubs will almost certainly dissipate and fade away once these players are eliminated from the TSL.

On March 28 2011 15:21 ABOOMAN wrote:
The mistake idra did is giving Crucher too much credit, i think he assumed that he was confident enough to play a macro game in a deciding match, but he should have known that he was probably on some kind of tilt after getting massively outplayed in a g2 and lean heavily on a idea that all-in is coming

On March 28 2011 15:59 Shai wrote:


You're delusional, Idra said cruncher would be a "walkover." Idra has become too bloated and isn't willing to learn from mistakes. His tilt is his biggest weakness, and the longer he goes without working on his emotional problems the more he'll lose his lead in skill.

And BTW I'm not a troll. I have loved Idra's style in the past, but the past couple of weeks have been lacking. He needs to accept that players can beat him without it being a huge personal insult. I have serious pride issues too, so I have some idea of what it feels like.

But I'm serious. His rage is making him a worse player (or at least preventing him from improving).

On March 28 2011 16:34 TheCrow wrote:


As far as I know flamebait like this isnt allowed in fanclubs. Loved his style in the past? Not willing to learn from mistakes? Bloated? All your comments are ignorant. You obviously just want to rile people up even though you try to disguise it. Your comment about bringing personality into the game is funny though... you actually follow day[9]'s word like its a religion "yeah he is tilting cuz day[9] said so"... maybe you should ask IdrA to go to a shaman to get rid of the curse day[9] mentioned. If you loose game one to some idiotic overpowered strategy you might tilt, if you crush the guy in the next round and he is using the same strat you won't suddenly tilt.. thats so illogical. IdrA reacted correctly in game 3, he sent several ovies to their deaths and he just had to take a guess.. if cruncher was going the same strat he needed to drone.. he guessed wrong, but played correctly. People need to learn the difference. Especially people like you who have watched some huskyvideos and decided they dislike IdrA.