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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
March 28 2011 07:53 GMT
#5861
Idra and sen remains aa my top most foreign zerg players so gogogo idra don't get too discouraged 8D
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 28 2011 08:02 GMT
#5862
On March 28 2011 16:44 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 16:34 TheCrow wrote:
On March 28 2011 15:59 Shai wrote:
On March 28 2011 15:21 ABOOMAN wrote:
The mistake idra did is giving Crucher too much credit, i think he assumed that he was confident enough to play a macro game in a deciding match, but he should have known that he was probably on some kind of tilt after getting massively outplayed in a g2 and lean heavily on a idea that all-in is coming


You're delusional, Idra said cruncher would be a "walkover." Idra has become too bloated and isn't willing to learn from mistakes. His tilt is his biggest weakness, and the longer he goes without working on his emotional problems the more he'll lose his lead in skill.

And BTW I'm not a troll. I have loved Idra's style in the past, but the past couple of weeks have been lacking. He needs to accept that players can beat him without it being a huge personal insult. I have serious pride issues too, so I have some idea of what it feels like.

But I'm serious. His rage is making him a worse player (or at least preventing him from improving).


As far as I know flamebait like this isnt allowed in fanclubs. Loved his style in the past? Not willing to learn from mistakes? Bloated? All your comments are ignorant. You obviously just want to rile people up even though you try to disguise it. Your comment about bringing personality into the game is funny though... you actually follow day[9]'s word like its a religion "yeah he is tilting cuz day[9] said so"... maybe you should ask IdrA to go to a shaman to get rid of the curse day[9] mentioned. If you loose game one to some idiotic overpowered strategy you might tilt, if you crush the guy in the next round and he is using the same strat you won't suddenly tilt.. thats so illogical. IdrA reacted correctly in game 3, he sent several ovies to their deaths and he just had to take a guess.. if cruncher was going the same strat he needed to drone.. he guessed wrong, but played correctly. People need to learn the difference. Especially people like you who have watched some huskyvideos and decided they dislike IdrA.


I have been following SC probably not as long as some people, but since 2007. I was a fan of Idra when estro decided never to play him. I have been a fan of his throughout SC2. I watch his stream every time its on because I love watching him play. However, losing and then ragequiting and turning off the stream is not constructive.

I've never watched husky, apart from his casting in the TSL3. I'm not trying to cause an uproar of hate against me. I actually really truly want Idra to continue to be the top-tier player he is and has been. However, I will not blindly say "AWW OP LETS QQ HURRAY." For people to get better it requires calmly looking at the situation and moving on by getting better.

I hate watching Idra stream and then turning it off because someone canon-rushes him. Keep playing! People who like to watch him play don't think less of him because a canon-rush beat him once.

You assume I'm talking purely about his match today in the TSL, but I'm not. It has been a theme, like I said, for a couple of weeks. I really, really want him to continue to be the top tier of Zerg, and I will continue to cheer for him in the future.

This Stanlike comment is boring. I was a fan but... blablabla, get over it man, IdrA is IdrA.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Joementum
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
787 Posts
March 28 2011 08:23 GMT
#5863
On March 28 2011 16:35 Mailing wrote:
From reddit o_o

[image loading]


And that is why something needs to be done about FF O_o. That is insane. You can stack and infinite number of units into those force fields. All you need is enough energy and decent forece fields to do it.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
March 28 2011 08:31 GMT
#5864
Everyone seems to be taking IdrA's interview really seriously I'm not sure if that was how he intended it to be but he's a witty intelligent guy I took a lot of it for sarcasm as to intended smacktalk.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
March 28 2011 08:50 GMT
#5865
On March 28 2011 17:23 Joementum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 16:35 Mailing wrote:
From reddit o_o

[image loading]


And that is why something needs to be done about FF O_o. That is insane. You can stack and infinite number of units into those force fields. All you need is enough energy and decent forece fields to do it.


Removing smartcasting would be a good start, IMO.

It'd be nice if forcefields like that actually took skill to do. Holding F and clicking in a circle isn't exactly difficult.

"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
March 28 2011 08:51 GMT
#5866
I think IdrA had a really good suggestion with FFs. Make them targetable and have 10 health, but really low on the target priority. I feel like that would introduce really cool micro.
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
March 28 2011 09:02 GMT
#5867
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
March 28 2011 09:03 GMT
#5868
On March 28 2011 18:02 TigerKarl wrote:
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.


These two points have been discussed to death, and you couldn't be more wrong.

Please understand the game mechanics of zerg scouting before posting something like this.
secret - never again
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
March 28 2011 09:06 GMT
#5869
On March 28 2011 18:02 TigerKarl wrote:
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.


That's like saying

"Maybe IdrA should take time off and study why other zergs are doing better and winning consistently while he is not."

The thing is, they aren't.
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Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
March 28 2011 09:14 GMT
#5870
On March 28 2011 18:06 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 18:02 TigerKarl wrote:
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.


That's like saying

"Maybe IdrA should take time off and study why other zergs are doing better and winning consistently while he is not."

The thing is, they aren't.


Mondragon had no issue today vs a better protoss, despite not playing for months.

Sen seems to have no troubles either. Not to mention the GSTL level players like LosirA, Min.. no issues there.
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Junichi
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1056 Posts
March 28 2011 09:27 GMT
#5871
I am no fan of Cruncher's, but saying Zeerax was better seems like an insult to me. Zeerax played so very bad...There is no way to compare those games.
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
TheCrow
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway296 Posts
March 28 2011 09:28 GMT
#5872
On March 28 2011 18:14 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 18:06 Mailing wrote:
On March 28 2011 18:02 TigerKarl wrote:
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.


That's like saying

"Maybe IdrA should take time off and study why other zergs are doing better and winning consistently while he is not."

The thing is, they aren't.


Mondragon had no issue today vs a better protoss, despite not playing for months.

Sen seems to have no troubles either. Not to mention the GSTL level players like LosirA, Min.. no issues there.


Mondragon that won over the worst BO ever (and mondragon apparently always says he hasnt played in months before a tournament). Sen that one a game vs a teammate? Sen that couldnt do aswell as IdrA in GSL? (not bashing Sen he is awesome, but just trying to prove a point) Losira that just lost to a 4 gate in GSTL? And how can you mention Min? He won a game in GSTL and lost the next, suddenly he is the new zerg saviour with a 50% winrate?

The thing is that ignorants keep saying IdrA should scout better etc. His scouting is prolly the best out there. He keeps sacking overlords to check the opponent, but considering the size of bases you can guarantee you get to see what you want to see. Ignorants also keep saying "why did he makes drones when an all in was coming"... I should not have to explain why that is stupid.

Keep mentioning other zergs that has one a couple of games all you want, but you have no argument before these zergs get better overall results than IdrA on a consistent basis.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
March 28 2011 09:33 GMT
#5873
On March 28 2011 18:14 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 18:06 Mailing wrote:
On March 28 2011 18:02 TigerKarl wrote:
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.


That's like saying

"Maybe IdrA should take time off and study why other zergs are doing better and winning consistently while he is not."

The thing is, they aren't.


Mondragon had no issue today vs a better protoss, despite not playing for months.

Sen seems to have no troubles either. Not to mention the GSTL level players like LosirA, Min.. no issues there.


Nice, you insulted Mondragon AND Cruncher with that first sentence. Look up the vods, Zeerax was floating 1k minerals at times.
Gotmog
Profile Joined October 2010
Serbia899 Posts
March 28 2011 09:39 GMT
#5874
Mondragon games were rly great to watch. BUT i just feel like that Toss was being to greedy, trying to tech 3ways/taking 3 bases/pressuring at the same time...you just can't do it, even in PvZ. It wouldn't have worked vs any safer/slower build.


Idra vs Cruncher was depressing to say the least. And the game was the definition of imbalance in 1.2 (whether 1.3 fixed anything is yet to be seen).
Game 2 was great play by idra.

Game 1 was great play by idra, outplaying his opponent on every turn.having 2x his upgrades. Remaxing 3x times at the end, and still couldn't take out the deathball (catching lone voids with corrupts, rebuilding them, loosing all again, rebuilding lings to try to stop it). Having whole map, with 95% covered in creep. vs Turtling Toss, with 2 entrances to his base...nothing he could do to trade armies before 200/200.

Game3....demonstrated how broken FF are in early game. And Cruncher used FF even better then MC, imo. Isolating those 5-10 roaches into 1, unable to move or shoot, beautiful (yet broken ). Idra was fairly prepared for the push, couldn't do much more to prepare without sacrificing economy and loosing the same way he did in G1.
"When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground"
Tranqje
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium89 Posts
March 28 2011 09:57 GMT
#5875
Game 1 was essentially why they changed shakuras, you just can't engage without getting forcefielded and killed, and then the deathballl comes. sucks he had to play prepatch i guess.

Game 2 was amazing tho ^^
If you watch jaws backwards it's about a shark throwing up so many people they have to open up a beach
Darksidius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
March 28 2011 10:13 GMT
#5876
Game 1 on Shakuras was the most depressing game I have ever seen. I really wouldn't know what IdrA could do different there.
Maybe an early switch to Broodlords?

Game 2 was epic, total ownage.

Game 3, I think IdrA could have done better. Hard to say what and where, that's just the feeling I got. Ofcourse it's hard when you can't scout and good forcefields are so powerfull.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 10:29:34
March 28 2011 10:26 GMT
#5877
On March 28 2011 19:13 Darksidius wrote:
Game 1 on Shakuras was the most depressing game I have ever seen. I really wouldn't know what IdrA could do different there.
Maybe an early switch to Broodlords?

Game 2 was epic, total ownage.

Game 3, I think IdrA could have done better. Hard to say what and where, that's just the feeling I got. Ofcourse it's hard when you can't scout and good forcefields are so powerfull.


Cruncher had like 15 Void Rays, you can't make broodlords... he could have done like mondragon, mass roaches and drops when the Protoss have only few units.

game 3 he could have backstabbed Cruncher with lings to delay his attack, gathering more roaches to defend.
he shouldn't have engaged like he did with his initial roaches, you need to get the maximum number of roaches possible to engage and do it in the last second possible, still, to have a chance... lol
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waffleduck
Profile Joined August 2010
125 Posts
March 28 2011 11:12 GMT
#5878
Please stop trying to give idra advice people.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 11:42:41
March 28 2011 11:41 GMT
#5879
On March 28 2011 19:13 Darksidius wrote:
Game 1 on Shakuras was the most depressing game I have ever seen. I really wouldn't know what IdrA could do different there.
Maybe an early switch to Broodlords?

Game 2 was epic, total ownage.

Game 3, I think IdrA could have done better. Hard to say what and where, that's just the feeling I got. Ofcourse it's hard when you can't scout and good forcefields are so powerfull.


Considering Cruncher's strategy in game 1 and game 2 seemed to be the same, I think Idra should have just done all that dropping in game 1. Though it probably wouldn't have been as powerful on Shakuras to be fair. I do think he could've tried to spread protoss out more, but he actually did do a reasonable amount of damage with those roach busts.

Game 3 confused the hell out of me. IdrA was so incredibly active about scouting but it just wasn't enough. I honestly don't see what else he could have done.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
March 28 2011 12:01 GMT
#5880
On March 28 2011 18:14 Skyze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 18:06 Mailing wrote:
On March 28 2011 18:02 TigerKarl wrote:
I think Idra should take a break from playing Starcraft and think about why he is losing important matches:
1. Being predictable
2. Playing blind as a result of bad scouting

If he keeps thinking he loses due to imbalance than he will not be able to be one of the best players of the world.
If he is capable of self criticism he might go back to the absolute elite.


That's like saying

"Maybe IdrA should take time off and study why other zergs are doing better and winning consistently while he is not."

The thing is, they aren't.


Mondragon had no issue today vs a better protoss, despite not playing for months.

Sen seems to have no troubles either. Not to mention the GSTL level players like LosirA, Min.. no issues there.


Yea remember that time Min won 1 game? The zerg race is in such good shape when we have results like that to throw out there to bash Idra
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