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Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 23:49:44
February 11 2011 23:38 GMT
#4261
On February 12 2011 07:10 rdj107 wrote:
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On February 12 2011 03:16 Heavenly wrote:
...Did you really just recommend that IdrA goes 7pool into a macro game, to smother early aggression?

No, thus the preface "it would be funny".
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On February 12 2011 03:16 Heavenly wrote:Or an in base hatch?

Using a hatch as a production building? Absurd, that's never been done in starcraft!
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On February 12 2011 03:16 Heavenly wrote:
he would be so far behind that I could beat him

I doubt it.
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On February 12 2011 03:16 Heavenly wrote:
Also no one goes pure marine, you have tanks that annihilate lings, so you need banelings to do that instant damage before the tanks destroy them. Also you have to have enough banelings to force them to do a split in the first place instead of just stutter-step firing, remaining in the bioball, and absolutely destroying an infinite number of lings. 5 banelings...would do nothing. They would get picked off the second they were within range of marine fire, no micro required.

Tank marine is specifically what I was thinking of. As long as you're claiming no micro, banelings aren't auto targeted over attacking zerglings, and five banelings do actually melt a large amount of marines when they're in a ball. Test it yourself if you want; 20 marines 2 tanks vs 40 zerglings 5 banelings to explain the unit comps I'm talking about, should come out with a tank left, no marines. That's probably too baneling heavy itself, and since the zerg army is already below the terran's in supply and cost adding more zerglings should tip the scale.

Note that I'm not saying this will do more damage than just throwing 20 banelings at the same army, it's just more cost efficient.
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On February 12 2011 03:16 Heavenly wrote:
I don't want to be a dick, but out of the thousands of games IdrA has played, and the thousands Ret has played and shared his knowledge with IdrA, I'm pretty sure they came to the conclusion they shouldn't 7pool or build 5 banelings.

Oh, well as long as you're pretty sure about it. After thousands of games, idra's play is obviously perfect, no room for improvement on any front. In fact, everyone else in the pro scene is playing perfect too, might as well stop having competitions, I guess mvp just won starcraft 2.
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On February 12 2011 03:16 Heavenly wrote:If you think 20 lings are worth more against marines than 10 banelings...I don't know what to tell you. 5 3-3 marines with medivac support could probably kill something like 20-30 lings easily.

You shouldn't list examples that are very obviously false, it makes you look like you don't actually know the basics of what can kill what. My entire point about banelings was using less gas to achieve the same result; if you don't understand why that's important there's really not a lot I can tell you.


Okay, sorry that I failed to see the humor in him 7 pooling into a macro game lulz. You said an in-base hatch in the beginning to deal with bunker rushes..the possibility of a bunker rush, which can quite easily be held off without pumping lings out of an auxiliary hatch which is exactly what a terran would want you to do with an initial poke since lings are, again, pretty worthless against marines + the cost of the auxiliary hatch which should've been another base instead + larva even if you have more due to the auxiliary hatch, and the terran can easily switch out of any bunker rush.

It's also called focus firing, any half-decent player (and IdrA plays better than half-decent people) would target the banelings with his tanks as he runs his marines back behind the cover of the tanks. How am I supposed to test that, I'm supposed to use the combined apm of both players to move the zerg's units in, move the banelings, while I move marines and target fire? The reason people love tank marine is because it is so cost-efficient against anything that the zerg can throw at them. If you seriously haven't seen a huge zergling/baneling/muta army thrown at a well-entrenched terran tank-marine force, zerg has to have an overwhelmingly massive force, and tank-marine is as easily replenished as ling/muta. Look at that IdrA vs. ogstop game on Xel'Naga where IdrA destroyed almost every single worker that he had, then using mules ogstop recovered with tank-marine and pushed to win the game with tons of constantly-replenished pushes. That's with IdrA three or four bases while ogstop was on two crippled bases. But that's because IdrA made too many banelings right?

Also lmao at your sarcasm about how 'everyone is perfect and everyone should just quit because immvp already won'. Glad that's not at all what I said. Pretty sure being 'perfect' at the game has nothing to do with the fact that out of the countless thousands of games played in ZvT, the metagame is getting as many banelings as you can in ling/baneling/muta versus T. Something makes me think, hmm, sometime within these countless thousands of games, maybe at one point zergs tried to use less banelings, and I'm guessing that hmm, they probably decided that's not too good of an idea. Ret's advice on banelings is "hold down the button to make them, and when you're out of gas, that's when you have enough". But if you can theorycraft all day and use a unit tester to determine why you're more knowledgeable than every top zerg around that does this, then have fun with that. Either way this is pointless, you can continue to believe what you want and the top zergs will continue to make banelings.

Also, if you think I don't know what I'm talking about, get about 5 3-3 marines, give them 2 medivacs or so, and see how many lings you can throw at them before they die even without stutter-step micro, and that's without tank support.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
SpiriTofAaekA
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19 Posts
February 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#4262
itt geeks

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Starlos
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada191 Posts
February 12 2011 00:25 GMT
#4263
On February 12 2011 09:04 SpiriTofAaekA wrote:
itt geeks


Oh hello fellow geek !

10 ... 9 ... 8 .. 7 ... 6 ... 5 ... 4 ...

"you're really good at making carriers [...] very useful talent toi have" - IdrA
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
February 12 2011 00:25 GMT
#4264
Might want to add this to the OP:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=192353
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 12 2011 01:24 GMT
#4265
On February 12 2011 08:33 Torte de Lini wrote:
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On February 12 2011 08:09 schimmetje wrote:
On February 12 2011 08:03 Whole wrote:
I have the perfect idea. IdrA streaming and shoutcasting the
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Starcraft 2 Strategy Forums


I think that'd be more like IdrA screaming the strat forums. There'll definitely be shouting though!


Have you seen Idra scream?
That's why your dreams are still dreams ;P

Though he'd totally just make one-liners for everything.

Everyone would be quoting him for years. It'd be fantastic.
you are perfect porcelain.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
February 12 2011 01:33 GMT
#4266
Xtfftc'd have to quit the day job to keep the OP up to date though. But it'd be worth it!
Change to MY nostalgia? UNACCEPTABLE! Monkey paaaw!
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 12 2011 01:35 GMT
#4267
Completely agreed. LOL.
I'd get shirts made. fo'sho.
you are perfect porcelain.
AzarIntrets
Profile Joined September 2010
109 Posts
February 12 2011 02:57 GMT
#4268
Sadiel und genmentle! I so far could come up with 4 ways to pronounce his name and compiled it in one image:
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[image loading]

How do you pronounce "IdrA"?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 12 2011 03:01 GMT
#4269
On February 12 2011 11:57 AzarIntrets wrote:
Sadiel und genmentle! I so far could come up with 4 ways to pronounce his name and compiled it in one image:
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[image loading]

How do you pronounce "IdrA"?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147739&currentpage=2#30
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Essentia
Profile Joined July 2010
1150 Posts
February 12 2011 03:29 GMT
#4270
On February 12 2011 07:58 Red. wrote:
problem with progamers in sc2 is that they can lose a game against a no-name guy. That didnt happen in broodwar at all, so the game kinda needs more time, give it the xpansion pacs and some practice time


Why do people think all the problems with the game will just solve themselves with time? This is the dumbest logic I have ever heard.
Xswordy
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom425 Posts
February 12 2011 04:17 GMT
#4271
On February 12 2011 12:29 Essentia wrote:
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On February 12 2011 07:58 Red. wrote:
problem with progamers in sc2 is that they can lose a game against a no-name guy. That didnt happen in broodwar at all, so the game kinda needs more time, give it the xpansion pacs and some practice time


Why do people think all the problems with the game will just solve themselves with time? This is the dumbest logic I have ever heard.


Because a new strategy appears ( like the new roach rush or w/e few days ago ) and since is new and good , everyone gets beaten by it. After that there comes the wave of topics saying things like " X STRATEGY SO OP!!!! IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA " . Some times passes , even weeks , then someone finds a way to counter it and it proves that it wasn't OP. Now imagine what would've happened if blizz would try to make some kind of ninja weird patch 2 days before the strat appeared to nerf it.

Now , ofcourse there are obvious things , like the stupid bunker rush which is totally ridiculous and could be fixed easily ( like removing the salvage option , or atleast reduce it to only 50% mins back ) . But hey , blizz acts weird sometime.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 04:51:24
February 12 2011 04:51 GMT
#4272
I love you all.+ Show Spoiler +
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P.S.
On February 12 2011 10:33 schimmetje wrote:
xtfftc'd have to quit the day job to keep the OP up to date though. But it'd be worth it!

I'm a bartender in a night club. :D I guess I could quit uni though.
[S]olo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2 Posts
February 12 2011 09:29 GMT
#4273
Idra is like the Deathstar: They are best destroyed seconds before utterly crushing their opponents, before they reach full power, in a desperate attempt to strike first.

<3 watching Idra play
Delamos
Profile Joined November 2010
United States32 Posts
February 12 2011 10:26 GMT
#4274
On February 12 2011 18:29 [S]olo wrote:
Idra is like the Deathstar: They are best destroyed seconds before utterly crushing their opponents, before they reach full power, in a desperate attempt to strike first.

<3 watching Idra play


QFT.... Thats prob why all the koreans cheese him on the ladder :|:|:|
tgun
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-12 16:28:59
February 12 2011 13:20 GMT
#4275
Idra the other day whilst playing me in a CW

(This was after I beat StrifeCro, Idra went on to roflstomp me as expected).

[image loading]
optical630
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom768 Posts
February 12 2011 14:31 GMT
#4276
ahahahahaha
Natt
Profile Joined August 2010
France253 Posts
February 12 2011 14:41 GMT
#4277
On February 12 2011 22:20 tgun wrote:
Idra the other day whilst playing me in a CW

[image loading]

ROFL !
thOr6136
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Slovenia1775 Posts
February 12 2011 14:53 GMT
#4278
On February 12 2011 22:20 tgun wrote:
Idra the other day whilst playing me in a CW

[image loading]


AHAHAHAHAHA soo funny rofl :DDDD
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
February 12 2011 14:57 GMT
#4279
On February 12 2011 22:20 tgun wrote:
Idra the other day whilst playing me in a CW

[image loading]



hahahaha XDDDD

//tx
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
raulista-7
Profile Joined January 2011
United States32 Posts
February 12 2011 16:23 GMT
#4280
On February 12 2011 22:20 tgun wrote:
Idra the other day whilst playing me in a CW

[image loading]



that's when you know you're a pimp!
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