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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4945 Posts
February 11 2011 16:04 GMT
#4201
"Have you ever used your SC2 fame to get a girl?"

IdrA: "No."

Hahaha, best question in an interview yet. I can just see Jaedong doing a coaching session about how to get girls as a Zerg progamer...$150/hr, anything less wouldn't be worth his time ^.^
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
February 11 2011 16:07 GMT
#4202
Hey guys that game was from an SCL match played against team OverDosed yesterday. OD tied the series 3-3 and IdrA was the only one left for EG. Game was played on Blistering Sands - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/12610813 - have fun watching.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
February 11 2011 16:17 GMT
#4203
On February 12 2011 01:07 GenoZStriker wrote:
Hey guys that game was from an SCL match played against team OverDosed yesterday. OD tied the series 3-3 and IdrA was the only one left for EG. Game was played on Blistering Sands - http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/12610813 - have fun watching.



Thx but its like only the first few minutes of it.
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
February 11 2011 16:22 GMT
#4204
<_< O shit! They screwed up the recording and SCL replays are never to be found.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
CuttyFlam
Profile Joined April 2010
Belgium523 Posts
February 11 2011 16:28 GMT
#4205
Oh well... Mind telling me who won the game and if there was gg or not?^^
Leave it to ................... Luck!!
andy186
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1058 Posts
February 11 2011 16:31 GMT
#4206
On February 11 2011 21:33 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.

He's so disillusioned with the game right now :[ sad to see. Hopefully he doesn't fall off due to lack of practice which he puts so much importance on.


I am a big fan of idra but I have to agree its getting a bit sad that he is just blaming balance rather than even attempting to try different styles. I know people will say "oh well ofcourse you know better than idra dont you?" well im not saying that just I would like to see him try something different rather than still go on and on about how unfair and hard zerg are. Yes its hard so show us that you are the best and dominate all the other races
Shorack
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium111 Posts
February 11 2011 17:15 GMT
#4207
On February 11 2011 15:02 GenoZStriker wrote:
LOL IdrA vs. tgun

tgun: you're the reason I switched from t to z
EGIdrA: im sorry

It will be damn hard to ever beat such an awesome quote. :p
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
February 11 2011 17:24 GMT
#4208
On February 12 2011 01:31 andy186 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 21:33 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.

He's so disillusioned with the game right now :[ sad to see. Hopefully he doesn't fall off due to lack of practice which he puts so much importance on.


I am a big fan of idra but I have to agree its getting a bit sad that he is just blaming balance rather than even attempting to try different styles. I know people will say "oh well ofcourse you know better than idra dont you?" well im not saying that just I would like to see him try something different rather than still go on and on about how unfair and hard zerg are. Yes its hard so show us that you are the best and dominate all the other races


...? Lol wat?

What other styles are there to try? Pretty sure Zerg has a finite number of unit combinations. What would you possibly do different that you think hasn't been attempted in all the games that zerg have played, yet most games end up exactly the same (ling/baneling/muta, roach/hydra/corruptor, etc.)? Everyone knows how well he dominates when he is allowed to macro, but there are so many possible cheeses, many of them unscoutable and requiring a different response, that he often just loses in the early game or gets so behind that it's not worth playing it out, hence his "rage" quits. Everyone knows the MVP game where he was allowed to macro and showed off his micro and decision making. So when he has insane macro, micro, and decision making, yet still loses all the time to stupid shit, that seems like a decent reason to complain. I'm a protoss but it seems pretty obvious to me that Zerg is the most difficult and most frustrating race to play at the highest level.

So what could he possibly do different? He plays standard like most of the higher level zergs (ex. Nestea) and I doubt "gimmicky" things like nydus worms or mass queens would be that effective at high levels.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
February 11 2011 17:34 GMT
#4209
zerg is actually worse then it appears to be. Top T/P cut a lot of corners because they are still able to win while doing so(P more so). I pretty much forseen that P deathball will be as strong as it currently is as far back as september and Idra, being a better player, can surely find even more things that protoss who already beat him consistently, can improve even more on.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 11 2011 17:54 GMT
#4210
I think Idra just overreacts to the ladder :/ The best zerg in the world(NesTea) has less than a 60% win rate, and only wins 1 out of 20 more games than Idra. Given how often Idra automatically leaves, or prematurely leaves just because he doesn't want to face a certain player/strategy, that gap should be quite a bit closer.

He really isn't doing that bad. Maybe he just feels like his play has stagnated and he can't do any better? The bottom line though is that he's not doing any worse than usual, but he's beating himself up more because of it.

Balance issues aside, the guys who practice 3-4x(literally) more than Idra at his current pace will just surpass him even more =\ He needs to find some motivation to start practicing seriously again.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
February 11 2011 17:59 GMT
#4211
On February 12 2011 02:24 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 01:31 andy186 wrote:
On February 11 2011 21:33 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.

He's so disillusioned with the game right now :[ sad to see. Hopefully he doesn't fall off due to lack of practice which he puts so much importance on.


I am a big fan of idra but I have to agree its getting a bit sad that he is just blaming balance rather than even attempting to try different styles. I know people will say "oh well ofcourse you know better than idra dont you?" well im not saying that just I would like to see him try something different rather than still go on and on about how unfair and hard zerg are. Yes its hard so show us that you are the best and dominate all the other races


...? Lol wat?

What other styles are there to try? Pretty sure Zerg has a finite number of unit combinations. What would you possibly do different that you think hasn't been attempted in all the games that zerg have played, yet most games end up exactly the same (ling/baneling/muta, roach/hydra/corruptor, etc.)? Everyone knows how well he dominates when he is allowed to macro, but there are so many possible cheeses, many of them unscoutable and requiring a different response, that he often just loses in the early game or gets so behind that it's not worth playing it out, hence his "rage" quits. Everyone knows the MVP game where he was allowed to macro and showed off his micro and decision making. So when he has insane macro, micro, and decision making, yet still loses all the time to stupid shit, that seems like a decent reason to complain. I'm a protoss but it seems pretty obvious to me that Zerg is the most difficult and most frustrating race to play at the highest level.

So what could he possibly do different? He plays standard like most of the higher level zergs (ex. Nestea) and I doubt "gimmicky" things like nydus worms or mass queens would be that effective at high levels.


Think he means something like an earlier pool or an in base hatch first just to get the necessary production. Only things off the top of my head that come before a bunker rush. It'd be kinda funny seeing idra go 7pool into macro game just to smother early aggression.

Also, I think that currently zergs in general are making too many banelings to deal with marines. Being suicide units, you're not actually looking to them to deal with the entirety of the bioball, just to provide enough initial burst damage to cripple the main clump. After that pure zerglings beat split marine clusters. In idra's games he's bleeding gas in making 10 to 20 banelings at a time, and if he limits himself to just using 5 or so per major marine push I think he'd find he gets his muta cloud up so much quicker, or even have room to move on to infestors. He'd need a macro hatch just to deal with pumping zerglings though.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4945 Posts
February 11 2011 18:09 GMT
#4212
On February 12 2011 01:31 andy186 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 21:33 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.

He's so disillusioned with the game right now :[ sad to see. Hopefully he doesn't fall off due to lack of practice which he puts so much importance on.


I am a big fan of idra but I have to agree its getting a bit sad that he is just blaming balance rather than even attempting to try different styles. I know people will say "oh well ofcourse you know better than idra dont you?" well im not saying that just I would like to see him try something different rather than still go on and on about how unfair and hard zerg are. Yes its hard so show us that you are the best and dominate all the other races



There should be a meme somewhere for the "I'm a fan of IdrA, but..." type of posts. Haha, if only I had a dollar for every time someone said something like that. This isn't the "IdrA fanclub, but..." thread.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
RedPill
Profile Joined December 2010
United States63 Posts
February 11 2011 18:16 GMT
#4213
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.



Pf: Which foreigner would you like to see come to Korea and why?

GF: Skew, he's really, really good.


I've never heard of Skew. Who is he?
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-11 18:20:33
February 11 2011 18:16 GMT
#4214
On February 12 2011 02:59 rdj107 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2011 02:24 Heavenly wrote:
On February 12 2011 01:31 andy186 wrote:
On February 11 2011 21:33 Tachion wrote:
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.

He's so disillusioned with the game right now :[ sad to see. Hopefully he doesn't fall off due to lack of practice which he puts so much importance on.


I am a big fan of idra but I have to agree its getting a bit sad that he is just blaming balance rather than even attempting to try different styles. I know people will say "oh well ofcourse you know better than idra dont you?" well im not saying that just I would like to see him try something different rather than still go on and on about how unfair and hard zerg are. Yes its hard so show us that you are the best and dominate all the other races


...? Lol wat?

What other styles are there to try? Pretty sure Zerg has a finite number of unit combinations. What would you possibly do different that you think hasn't been attempted in all the games that zerg have played, yet most games end up exactly the same (ling/baneling/muta, roach/hydra/corruptor, etc.)? Everyone knows how well he dominates when he is allowed to macro, but there are so many possible cheeses, many of them unscoutable and requiring a different response, that he often just loses in the early game or gets so behind that it's not worth playing it out, hence his "rage" quits. Everyone knows the MVP game where he was allowed to macro and showed off his micro and decision making. So when he has insane macro, micro, and decision making, yet still loses all the time to stupid shit, that seems like a decent reason to complain. I'm a protoss but it seems pretty obvious to me that Zerg is the most difficult and most frustrating race to play at the highest level.

So what could he possibly do different? He plays standard like most of the higher level zergs (ex. Nestea) and I doubt "gimmicky" things like nydus worms or mass queens would be that effective at high levels.


Think he means something like an earlier pool or an in base hatch first just to get the necessary production. Only things off the top of my head that come before a bunker rush. It'd be kinda funny seeing idra go 7pool into macro game just to smother early aggression.

Also, I think that currently zergs in general are making too many banelings to deal with marines. Being suicide units, you're not actually looking to them to deal with the entirety of the bioball, just to provide enough initial burst damage to cripple the main clump. After that pure zerglings beat split marine clusters. In idra's games he's bleeding gas in making 10 to 20 banelings at a time, and if he limits himself to just using 5 or so per major marine push I think he'd find he gets his muta cloud up so much quicker, or even have room to move on to infestors. He'd need a macro hatch just to deal with pumping zerglings though.



...Did you really just recommend that IdrA goes 7pool into a macro game, to smother early aggression? Or an in base hatch? I'm not sure that really deserves a response...I mean...yeah...he would be so far behind that I could beat him if he 7 pooled me or built an inbase hatch in the beginning. Also no one goes pure marine, you have tanks that annihilate lings, so you need banelings to do that instant damage before the tanks destroy them. Also you have to have enough banelings to force them to do a split in the first place instead of just stutter-step firing, remaining in the bioball, and absolutely destroying an infinite number of lings. 5 banelings...would do nothing. They would get picked off the second they were within range of marine fire, no micro required.

I don't want to be a dick, but out of the thousands of games IdrA has played, and the thousands Ret has played and shared his knowledge with IdrA, I'm pretty sure they came to the conclusion they shouldn't 7pool or build 5 banelings. If you think 20 lings are worth more against marines than 10 banelings...I don't know what to tell you. 5 3-3 marines with medivac support could probably kill something like 20-30 lings easily.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
TheBruky
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic29 Posts
February 11 2011 18:39 GMT
#4215
havent seen it here ode to idra
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
February 11 2011 18:41 GMT
#4216
On February 12 2011 03:16 RedPill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 21:06 phANT1m wrote:
http://polarfluke.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135:release-the-gracken&catid=6:interviews&Itemid=26

Interview i done with him recently.


Show nested quote +

Pf: Which foreigner would you like to see come to Korea and why?

GF: Skew, he's really, really good.


I've never heard of Skew. Who is he?

SCBW terran player from Media, Idra's old team.
Was pretty good but definitely not world(non-korean) class.
Although even back then he was receiving the same type of hype from his media buddies.
So i'd take this witha grain of salt.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
February 11 2011 18:50 GMT
#4217
Greg has went from mad zerg to emo zerg, but most of them have now.

I really hope he does not switch, and just waits it out. He hates ladder, but when more foreigners go to korea (EG?) he will have both people to talk to and people to play, and eventually zerg will start being changed, or the other races changed, which will give him renewed vigor hopefully.
ClanOverdosed
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
691 Posts
February 11 2011 19:06 GMT
#4218
On February 12 2011 02:15 Shorack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 15:02 GenoZStriker wrote:
LOL IdrA vs. tgun

tgun: you're the reason I switched from t to z
EGIdrA: im sorry

It will be damn hard to ever beat such an awesome quote. :p


someone needs to make on of those motivational pics out of that LOL
Overdosed--www.overdosed.net
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
February 11 2011 19:28 GMT
#4219
Guys,
this session with MrBitter will be huge.
Idra will be the angel on my shoulder, guiding me to certain victory.

And, should I falter (and its quite possible [probable?] that I may) Idra has also agreed to play a game or two with each of our challengers, while also fielding whatever sorts of questions I can muster, as has been the norm on the show.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=177791&currentpage=36#710


Screw all that shit that korean ladder seems to be - THIS is going to be fun, fun and fun!
Raeleigh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
February 11 2011 20:14 GMT
#4220
I know IdrA is banned, but..
[image loading]

I made this for him hoping he was still gonna be here and still gonna be streaming. p_q!
Hope he does start streaming again~
you are perfect porcelain.
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