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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
January 03 2012 19:59 GMT
#32321
On January 04 2012 04:39 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 03:18 Micket wrote:
Boxer got 700K, not 70k! That's 3 times higher than any live stream ever!


I wouldn't bother if you hadn't said 'any live stream ever' but the Dota 2 International had more than one and a half million for the first game.

An oversight on my part. I was of course talking about sc2. When we bring the Chinese into the equation when talking about esports viewership, everything is blown out of the water.

As for Idra cheese, I tend to disagree with him being a 'macro cheeser'. He tends to tread a thin line between safety and greed but he doesn't regularly take a huge risk. I would define a macro cheese as this - 'if the entire map was revealed at the instant I made a decision to 'insert risky economical strategy', I would lose 100% of the time.' An example would be 15cc on xelnaga caverns. Zerg would win every game vs Terran if T went this build, even if Terran could see what Zerg was doing. An example that doesn't work is forge expand vs Z. As much as reddit scrubs like to say 'lol NaNiwa punished for greedy forge expand,' it is entirely safe.

I think Idra plays more like the second category, rather than the 15cc example. When I look at Idra's builds, I can see how he can hold off everything (cept ZvZ but we don't need to discuss that). Therefore he ain't a macro cheeser (most of the time).
Ravnemesteren
Profile Joined May 2011
224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:10:30
January 03 2012 20:08 GMT
#32322
Yeah macro cheese works like cheese. Doing something very risky and hope it doesnt get scouted. Like double expanding vs T and hope you dont get attacked.

I can't see how anyone would call IdrA's builds for macro cheese... thats incredibly silly in my opinion. He tries to play very safe on 2 base for quite a while vs T, and he expands at a standard timing vs P. I don't get it.
arcane1129
Profile Joined January 2011
United States273 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:13:30
January 03 2012 20:11 GMT
#32323
Anyone who thinks Idra wins his games by just crossing his fingers and droning while hoping to not be attacked has no understanding of starcraft.
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 03 2012 20:40 GMT
#32324
I feel like I would call what Idra does on occasion with being incredibly greedy "macro cheese". Isn't cheese a really nebulous term in itself anyways? But I love watching him do it, because when he pulls it off, he does it with style.
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
Evotroid
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:51:35
January 03 2012 20:50 GMT
#32325
On January 04 2012 05:08 Ravnemesteren wrote:
Yeah macro cheese works like cheese. Doing something very risky and hope it doesnt get scouted. Like double expanding vs T and hope you dont get attacked.

I can't see how anyone would call IdrA's builds for macro cheese... thats incredibly silly in my opinion. He tries to play very safe on 2 base for quite a while vs T, and he expands at a standard timing vs P. I don't get it.


Edit:Don't mind me I was stupid
I got nothing.
Makura
Profile Joined December 2010
United States317 Posts
January 03 2012 20:53 GMT
#32326
On January 04 2012 05:40 Golbat wrote:
I feel like I would call what Idra does on occasion with being incredibly greedy "macro cheese". Isn't cheese a really nebulous term in itself anyways? But I love watching him do it, because when he pulls it off, he does it with style.


The term can be applicable but much like the traditional cheese term, it is often overused.

I would classify the 15 hatch with an extremely late pool without drone scouting on a relatively small map to be a macro cheese but not like the reactive fast 3rd hatch when he sees ffe by a toss or something
SHOW THEM WHAT THE CATFISH COMBO IS ALL ABOUT!
MrDudeMan
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada973 Posts
January 03 2012 20:54 GMT
#32327
Yeah I dont think idra does "macro cheese". I think the reason he is caught off guard by early game aggressiveness is because his scouting could be better, not because he takes risks (although I guess not scouting is a risk?).
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
January 03 2012 20:57 GMT
#32328
Only in the IdrA fanclub can the posts become off topic for pages and turn into SRS BSNS about MVP vs Flash and SC2 vs BW. Without moderation.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
LingBlingMuta
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States382 Posts
January 03 2012 20:57 GMT
#32329
On January 04 2012 05:40 Golbat wrote:
I feel like I would call what Idra does on occasion with being incredibly greedy "macro cheese". Isn't cheese a really nebulous term in itself anyways? But I love watching him do it, because when he pulls it off, he does it with style.



No because with proper control and decision making he can be safe from any attack.

Sure he loses to some sketch pushes etc. that doesnt mean it was because he was greedy 9 times out of 10 its because he either didnt wait long enough to *go for it* or he gets out micro'd.

Idra is one of the safest zergs as far as that goes. IMO Ret is way more greedy than Idra.
The Gracken shall be re-released... Soon
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 03 2012 21:00 GMT
#32330




Couple games uploaded by the IGN channel on youtube. I can't remember seeing these games >.< One of the casters is speaking of Anaheim like it was last weekend, so these are horribly old. Still, I'll post them ^^
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
SC2NeCro
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada507 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 21:22:08
January 03 2012 21:21 GMT
#32331
Can't wait to see the new and improved IdrA fight in the GSL

And stomp on foreigners afters ^_^
Fav Terran: forGG, aLive, Jinro ||| Fav Zerg: Moon, TLO, DRG ||| Fav Protoss: Genius, Grubby, ToD
Khazroul
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom206 Posts
January 03 2012 21:27 GMT
#32332
Hey Aocowns! Thanks for the links
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 03 2012 21:46 GMT
#32333
On January 04 2012 06:27 Khazroul wrote:
Hey Aocowns! Thanks for the links

Hey dude x)
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
damod
Profile Joined March 2011
1106 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 22:44:48
January 03 2012 22:44 GMT
#32334
hmm... pretty though day on ladder today.
i wonder if idrA is experimenting stuff on ladder, or play seriously to measure his skill :/
EGHuK | EGJaeDong | EGMachine | EGiNcontroL | EGDemusliM | EGStephano <3
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
January 03 2012 23:05 GMT
#32335
Does anyone have the VOD of Idra post-interview after beating Hwangsin in the NASL playoffs? It was so hilarious when he was asked by Gretorp "What do you think beating Hwangsin means?" and Idra answering "Beating Hwangsin doesn't mean anything because he is terrible."
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 03 2012 23:11 GMT
#32336
On January 04 2012 08:05 Bleak wrote:
Does anyone have the VOD of Idra post-interview after beating Hwangsin in the NASL playoffs? It was so hilarious when he was asked by Gretorp "What do you think beating Hwangsin means?" and Idra answering "Beating Hwangsin doesn't mean anything because he is terrible."



Here you go.
"let your freak flag fly"
AliasO
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 23:58:26
January 03 2012 23:37 GMT
#32337
Hmm I thought someone would've mentioned this by now but "Building on the motto of "Yo Bitch, Inject' as intro'ed on last nights @KingsOfTin @idrajit is gonna weigh in while @djWHEAT plays!" (from itg twitter.)
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
January 03 2012 23:41 GMT
#32338
On January 04 2012 08:37 AliasO wrote:
Hmm I thought some would've mentioned this by now but "Building on the motto of "Yo Bitch, Inject' as intro'ed on last nights @KingsOfTin @idrajit is gonna weigh in while @djWHEAT plays!" (from itg twitter.)

So Idra is going to commentate, and help Wheat out while he plays? I AM WATCHING DAT SHIT.
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
Golbat
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States499 Posts
January 03 2012 23:57 GMT
#32339
On January 04 2012 08:41 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 08:37 AliasO wrote:
Hmm I thought some would've mentioned this by now but "Building on the motto of "Yo Bitch, Inject' as intro'ed on last nights @KingsOfTin @idrajit is gonna weigh in while @djWHEAT plays!" (from itg twitter.)

So Idra is going to commentate, and help Wheat out while he plays? I AM WATCHING DAT SHIT.

Does it say when???
Like why do u use an oven instead of a fire? Coz its fucking better at cooking, that doesnt mean you want the shit to burn.
AliasO
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States61 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 00:28:43
January 03 2012 23:58 GMT
#32340
On January 04 2012 08:57 Golbat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 08:41 Aocowns wrote:
On January 04 2012 08:37 AliasO wrote:
Hmm I thought some would've mentioned this by now but "Building on the motto of "Yo Bitch, Inject' as intro'ed on last nights @KingsOfTin @idrajit is gonna weigh in while @djWHEAT plays!" (from itg twitter.)

So Idra is going to commentate, and help Wheat out while he plays? I AM WATCHING DAT SHIT.

Does it say when???

7 pm EST (or so it was supposed to be.) Ok, now I am really confused I guess miniwheat is doing tonight's itg.
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