• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:25
CET 07:25
KST 15:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos Sagi.gg Launcher Released
Tourneys
[Mixed-Gender CK] Rush+4 vs Best+4 New Worlds Star League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8312 users

The IdrA Fan Club - Page 1616

Forum Index > Fan Clubs
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1614 1615 1616 1617 1618 2897 Next
Personal attacks in this thread will draw a temp ban.
cavalier117
Profile Joined April 2011
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 16:56:12
January 03 2012 16:53 GMT
#32301
On January 04 2012 00:25 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.


i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.
Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Poebes
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands192 Posts
January 03 2012 16:54 GMT
#32302
On January 04 2012 01:44 MrDudeMan wrote:
Seriously, someone should start giving out warnings for off topic discussions. The number of them in this thread is ridiculous.

Lol you just did it yourself xD
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
January 03 2012 17:02 GMT
#32303
On January 03 2012 19:23 Sqorpion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

wait a minute, let me get this straight.
I don't want to take anything away from Mvp, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...
You're in the IdrA fanclub, and you say Mvp is the least cheesy player?
I lol'd, IdrA is by far the least cheesy player in the world. I dare even say on all ladders, I doubt there are many who are as straight up players as IdrA.
Sorry, bro.
And as I said, I don't wanna take anything away from Mvp, he's a fucking god, but the least cheesy player he is not.


I would say idra is a kind a cheesy player as he do "MacroCheese" and is often very greedy.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
trikshun
Profile Joined October 2010
United States437 Posts
January 03 2012 17:19 GMT
#32304
On January 04 2012 01:53 cavalier117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 00:25 Micket wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.


i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.

Broodwar is far from dead. The last osl had more viewers than any of the sc2 tournament we have had.
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
January 03 2012 17:30 GMT
#32305
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.


As I said, comparing prizemoney between the games doesn't make any sense at all. You can't really compare medals either. Not all the best players in the world are in the GSL.

You're also being very, very bold with your statement that MVP has more fans than Flash. Considering BW still has a larger fanbase than SC2 has in korea (yes I'm pulling facts out of my ass exactly the same way you do).
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
January 03 2012 17:42 GMT
#32306
On January 04 2012 01:53 cavalier117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 00:25 Micket wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.


i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.


I wouldn't call 50 million "relatively small population". BW still has higher viewers numbers than SC2 and it still attracts more sponsorship money than SC2.

But anyway, that's irrelevant... The whole argument is ridiculous. As per usual, people are talking about different things. The skill level of SC2 is still not high enough for such comparissons (and it will take a while for this to change, even if SC2 starts attracting bigger audiences overnight) - but in terms of dominance Mvp's year is similar to what Flash has achieved throughout his career.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
January 03 2012 17:47 GMT
#32307
On January 04 2012 02:42 xtfftc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 01:53 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:25 Micket wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.


i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.


I wouldn't call 50 million "relatively small population". BW still has higher viewers numbers than SC2 and it still attracts more sponsorship money than SC2.

But anyway, that's irrelevant... The whole argument is ridiculous. As per usual, people are talking about different things. The skill level of SC2 is still not high enough for such comparissons (and it will take a while for this to change, even if SC2 starts attracting bigger audiences overnight) - but in terms of dominance Mvp's year is similar to what Flash has achieved throughout his career.


I dunno, MVP flopped pretty hard at MLG, Haypro had him beat
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 03 2012 18:10 GMT
#32308
I dunno, MVP flopped pretty hard at MLG, Haypro had him beat


Let's not compare MVP to Flash since SC2 is still so new. But to say MVP flopped at MLG is pretty ridiculous consider he went through the open bracket and placed 4th. In comparison, Idra was seeded #1 way up in the bracket and placed 8th.
iPBioAndMech
Profile Joined October 2011
Korea (South)12 Posts
January 03 2012 18:16 GMT
#32309
Good old grack. Can't wait for him to play in gsl.
Proud member of team Illusion.
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 18:22:55
January 03 2012 18:18 GMT
#32310
On January 04 2012 01:53 cavalier117 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 00:25 Micket wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.


i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.

Boxer got 700K, not 70k! That's 3 times higher than any live stream ever! Stuff like MLG, Dreamhack, IPL, NASL had less live viewers for their finals COMBINED. 700k people watched Boxer play sc2 live on the Korean gom stream. This is unparalleled in terms of numbers for any tournament and it was simply a Ro64 GSL game. Give me a plausible explanation of how this happened that isn't 'the Korean BW audience decided to watch sc2 for a change'. The pro league finals had millions watching. Until MLG has 2 million live viewers instead of 100k, then we can talk about sc2 being the bigger esport.

Source http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161872
StiX
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands220 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 19:08:21
January 03 2012 19:08 GMT
#32311
Guys please don't let Idra's fanclub turn into a BW vs SC2.. They are equally awesome in their own rights.
"Think for yourself, question authority" Timothy Leary
cavalier117
Profile Joined April 2011
United States430 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 19:18:42
January 03 2012 19:08 GMT
#32312
On January 04 2012 03:18 Micket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 01:53 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:25 Micket wrote:
On January 04 2012 00:20 cavalier117 wrote:
On January 03 2012 23:30 drlame wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:57 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:42 LingBlingMuta wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

I... dont know what to say to that... are you joking? The Flash of SC2? really?


Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.


I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.


i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.


i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.

Boxer got 700K, not 70k! That's 3 times higher than any live stream ever! Stuff like MLG, Dreamhack, IPL, NASL had less live viewers for their finals COMBINED. 700k people watched Boxer play sc2 live on the Korean gom stream. This is unparalleled in terms of numbers for any tournament and it was simply a Ro64 GSL game. Give me a plausible explanation of how this happened that isn't 'the Korean BW audience decided to watch sc2 for a change'. The pro league finals had millions watching. Until MLG has 2 million live viewers instead of 100k, then we can talk about sc2 being the bigger esport.

Source http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161872


um yea... about that.....MLG providence had 3.5million unique viewers,so what about which being a bigger esport? the actual numbers of the finals werent released, but considering its the marquee match... with 241k average online over 3 days. not just one single match


source: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-delivers-the-largest-season-in-esports-history
Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 03 2012 19:30 GMT
#32313
On January 04 2012 04:08 StiX wrote:
Guys please don't let Idra's fanclub turn into a BW vs SC2.. They are equally awesome in their own rights.

Well both games are awesome, but saying SC2 is equal to BW is just incorrect. BW is much more dynamic/skillful/balanced game.
"let your freak flag fly"
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 03 2012 19:32 GMT
#32314
On January 03 2012 19:23 Sqorpion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

wait a minute, let me get this straight.
I don't want to take anything away from Mvp, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...
You're in the IdrA fanclub, and you say Mvp is the least cheesy player?
I lol'd, IdrA is by far the least cheesy player in the world. I dare even say on all ladders, I doubt there are many who are as straight up players as IdrA.
Sorry, bro.
And as I said, I don't wanna take anything away from Mvp, he's a fucking god, but the least cheesy player he is not.

Greed or macro cheese is just as bad as 6 pooling. Idra is a cheeser he is just on the other side of the spectrum of cheesers.
"let your freak flag fly"
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
January 03 2012 19:39 GMT
#32315
On January 04 2012 03:18 Micket wrote:
Boxer got 700K, not 70k! That's 3 times higher than any live stream ever!


I wouldn't bother if you hadn't said 'any live stream ever' but the Dota 2 International had more than one and a half million for the first game.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
FireFish
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark228 Posts
January 03 2012 19:41 GMT
#32316
He´s gonna be so good now that he's in Korea :D Awesoome
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
January 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#32317
On January 04 2012 04:32 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2012 19:23 Sqorpion wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

wait a minute, let me get this straight.
I don't want to take anything away from Mvp, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...
You're in the IdrA fanclub, and you say Mvp is the least cheesy player?
I lol'd, IdrA is by far the least cheesy player in the world. I dare even say on all ladders, I doubt there are many who are as straight up players as IdrA.
Sorry, bro.
And as I said, I don't wanna take anything away from Mvp, he's a fucking god, but the least cheesy player he is not.

Greed or macro cheese is just as bad as 6 pooling. Idra is a cheeser he is just on the other side of the spectrum of cheesers.

Wtf? Greedy macro isn't cheese
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
January 03 2012 19:49 GMT
#32318
He was not afraid to ban, brave brave brave sir Motbob.
He was not afraid to make fans cry, brave brave brave brave sir Motbob.
To ban them for outrageous claims.
Or to warn them because they can't behave.
For ruining his peaceful days.
Brave brave brave brave sir Motbob.

-____________________-
Get crunk
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
January 03 2012 19:50 GMT
#32319
People don't understand the term "cheese" lol. Macro cheese is an oxymoron. "Cheese" is not interchangeable with "risk."
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 03 2012 19:52 GMT
#32320
On January 04 2012 04:45 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 04:32 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:23 Sqorpion wrote:
On January 03 2012 19:12 Golbat wrote:
On January 03 2012 15:21 isleyofthenorth wrote:
MVP is an overrated cheesy terran. He's still the best terran probably, sadly

MVP is like the least cheesy player that exists, and also is like one of the best players in the world. He's like the Flash of SC2.

wait a minute, let me get this straight.
I don't want to take anything away from Mvp, buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut...
You're in the IdrA fanclub, and you say Mvp is the least cheesy player?
I lol'd, IdrA is by far the least cheesy player in the world. I dare even say on all ladders, I doubt there are many who are as straight up players as IdrA.
Sorry, bro.
And as I said, I don't wanna take anything away from Mvp, he's a fucking god, but the least cheesy player he is not.

Greed or macro cheese is just as bad as 6 pooling. Idra is a cheeser he is just on the other side of the spectrum of cheesers.

Wtf? Greedy macro isn't cheese

Really? So taking three bases while teching is not as risky as blindly 6 pooling? Do you even watch idra play? Many of his loses are because he doesn't stop droning until tanks are at his doorstep seiging his natural. Macro cheese takes more skill to perform and is more beneficial but is just as risky.
"let your freak flag fly"
Prev 1 1614 1615 1616 1617 1618 2897 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3606
Shuttle 2421
GuemChi 1844
Hyuk 333
ProTech184
Rush 167
Shine 134
Larva 106
Noble 41
ZergMaN 26
[ Show more ]
Icarus 8
Other Games
summit1g9917
JimRising 644
WinterStarcraft365
C9.Mang0323
Cr1tdota314
Lowko173
Mew2King164
Fuzer 124
NeuroSwarm71
ViBE47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick716
Counter-Strike
PGL177
Other Games
BasetradeTV45
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2253
League of Legends
• Rush1134
• Stunt386
Other Games
• imaqtpie717
• Shiphtur185
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
3h 35m
KCM Race Survival
3h 35m
OSC
7h 35m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
2 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.