Apparently nobody has ever heard of hyperbole. Flash wins a lot, MVP is currently the most dominant player in SC2, I don't see how, with a little imagination, you can't make the connection. I still think Idra is going to beat both him and Nestea, but you people need to calm down.

I agree, it's hyperbole. On the other hand, MVP is not the Flash of SC2. Also comparing prize-money between the two games doesn't make sense.

i understand what you're implying, but on the other hand it still makes perfect sense.

when success is measured in gold medals and prize money, they are easily comparable. i would also be bold enough to make the statement that MVP also has more fans than flash due to the fact that BW is dead where SC2 is booming. however, if flask does switch, its safe to say Flash would begin to take over again in every area.

BW ain't dead man. In Korea, it is way bigger than western esports. Did you know that 700000 people watched boxers first GSL game live? Where has that audience gone? Back to BW. Sc2 is gonna got huge soon in Korea but not ATM.

i can tell you clearly dont look at the spectator numbers bc BW IS dead... one country with a relatively small population doesnt compare to an entire world watching SC2. (seriously, its not even remotely close)

another thing... Boxer getting 70k viewers in GSL.... where to start...
A: Boxer, not Flash
B:wasnt even a BW game....
C: where do you get the idea exactly that they went back to watching BW? you're just making shit up at this point.

i dont understand why people think Koreans actually make up a majority of overall viewers in SC2(comparing to the rest of the world), because they dont... not even close.

Boxer got 700K, not 70k! That's 3 times higher than any live stream ever! Stuff like MLG, Dreamhack, IPL, NASL had less live viewers for their finals COMBINED. 700k people watched Boxer play sc2 live on the Korean gom stream. This is unparalleled in terms of numbers for any tournament and it was simply a Ro64 GSL game. Give me a plausible explanation of how this happened that isn't 'the Korean BW audience decided to watch sc2 for a change'. The pro league finals had millions watching. Until MLG has 2 million live viewers instead of 100k, then we can talk about sc2 being the bigger esport.

Source http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=161872

um yea... about that.....MLG providence had 3.5million unique viewers,so what about which being a bigger esport? the actual numbers of the finals werent released, but considering its the marquee match... with 241k average online over 3 days. not just one single match

source: http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mlg-delivers-the-largest-season-in-esports-history

If you bothered to read your own source that was all of the mlgs combined for the 2011 season

VashTS

United States1675 Posts

January 04 2012 06:32 GMT

#32346

Can we get a list of streamers from Korea, please? Any chance to catch IdrA play would be awesome. ;D

Mrvoodoochild1

United States1439 Posts

January 04 2012 06:40 GMT

#32347

On January 04 2012 15:32 VashTS wrote:
Can we get a list of streamers from Korea, please? Any chance to catch IdrA play would be awesome. ;D

You can't distinguish between Koreans and foreigners? Why do you need a list?

walklightwhat

Australia752 Posts

January 04 2012 06:41 GMT

#32348

On January 04 2012 15:32 VashTS wrote:
Can we get a list of streamers from Korea, please? Any chance to catch IdrA play would be awesome. ;D

Right now? I think all but one of the featured streamers is streaming KR ladder. Artist might be as well, but he's in the US, so he might be playing NA.

McPhiz

Canada183 Posts

January 04 2012 07:05 GMT

#32349

when does idra play in the gsl? I need to get paypal working so I can subscribe and watch his games in vods.......no way I'm staying up till like 3am :D

SpaceFighting

New Zealand690 Posts

January 04 2012 07:12 GMT

#32350

On January 04 2012 16:05 McPhiz wrote:
when does idra play in the gsl? I need to get paypal working so I can subscribe and watch his games in vods.......no way I'm staying up till like 3am :D

but live is sooo much better xD

isleyofthenorth

Austria894 Posts

January 04 2012 07:20 GMT

#32351

On January 04 2012 16:12 SpaceFighting wrote:

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but live is sooo much better xD

yeah but you have it good in the same timezone.

its something late night for us

And for us Euros, its even worse like 9-11AM..

Thrax

Canada1755 Posts

January 04 2012 07:24 GMT

#32352

Hey guys, here is the game IdrA played against dSeleCT, from SeleCT's point of view:
http://www.twitch.tv/dignitasselect/b/304470331?t=2m20s

Enjoy!

Junichi

Germany1056 Posts

January 04 2012 08:38 GMT

#32353

Thank you, will be watching it right now.

Edit: nice game

0ne

Spain2464 Posts

January 04 2012 09:27 GMT

#32354

IdrA matches featured on GomTV.net :D

Incognoto

France10239 Posts

January 04 2012 12:22 GMT

#32355

"23 year old Korean looking for fun". :p That's pretty amusing.

This looks cool can't wait to see this game. It's unfortunate, but I don't think that Idra is going to be streaming anytime soon, what with Code S approaching.

So I watched the game and it was a pretty nice one, Idra played well. It's sort of interesting to see Idra's harass, but on the receiving end. Select played pretty well as well imo.

Smapz

Norway405 Posts

January 04 2012 13:06 GMT

#32356

Looks like IdrA's ZvT still is excellent, saw some baneling bombs as well, finally :D

damod

1106 Posts

January 04 2012 13:20 GMT

#32357

On January 04 2012 07:44 damod wrote:
hmm... pretty though day on ladder today.
i wonder if idrA is experimenting stuff on ladder, or play seriously to measure his skill :/

hmm... banelings bombs, i guess that means he is experimenting stuff on ladder right ? :D

LingBlingMuta

United States382 Posts

January 04 2012 13:32 GMT

#32358

Ladder is a good way to get hit with everything from every matchup in a short period of time.

Idra will be able to specifically practice for w/e matchup he plays this season in Code S.

I don't think any amount of success or failure on the ladder really says how good a player can be. If anything it just keeps his timings crisp and lets him fight off alot of the bullshit you tend to see on ladder.

Sphen5117

United States413 Posts

January 04 2012 17:15 GMT

#32359

On January 04 2012 22:20 damod wrote:

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hmm... banelings bombs, i guess that means he is experimenting stuff on ladder right ? :D

Experimenting might be a wierd word to use. He said in an interview that they were simply put: good. And that they are basically underused by him and others. He's just a good player that wants to be able to utilize all of his race's strengths I feel. So sort of experimenting, I guess.

followZeRoX

Serbia1451 Posts

January 04 2012 17:18 GMT

#32360

Why Idra not streaming for a long time?