The IdrA Fan Club - Page 1563

On December 12 2011 12:30 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Otherwise, everyone knows one of the first signs of the apocalypse is the Gracken showing courtesy to random players.

On December 12 2011 12:45 blade55555 wrote:


But he's right, most koreans would rather do a lot of custom games especially when preparing for a tournament.

Its been known that Stephano doesn't like customs because he might face them in a tournament (remember reading an interview of him saying this) so he uses only ladder as practice. A lot of koreans use their team and that is why in general koreans are a tier above foreigners is because they practice in a house and against each other a ton. They don't put that much into ladder like you seem to think.

Look at makaprime he's #1 korean GM and what are his tournament results? His last time he played was in september where he lost to sjow in code A. Laddering doesn't show how good you are, but there are the exceptions.

On December 12 2011 13:02 Thrax wrote:
The VOD with IdrA's game against Bomber just showed up on own3d.tv:
http://www.own3d.tv/StartaleBomber#/watch/332889
It's right at the beginning. Enjoy!

On December 12 2011 13:02 Thrax wrote:
The VOD with IdrA's game against Bomber just showed up on own3d.tv:
http://www.own3d.tv/StartaleBomber#/watch/332889
It's right at the beginning. Enjoy!

On December 12 2011 13:01 epicdemic wrote:


Whooo, I never said anything about what is the best way to practice. And I'm not at all going to argue about that because I have no idea.

But the assumption the very best don't have a winrate higher than 50 on ladder is simply wrong. I'd rather see MVP as the exception.

Nestea: 62%
DRG: 75%
Polt: 72%
Curious: 68%
MC: 66%

On December 12 2011 12:45 blade55555 wrote:


But he's right, most koreans would rather do a lot of custom games especially when preparing for a tournament.

Its been known that Stephano doesn't like customs because he might face them in a tournament (remember reading an interview of him saying this) so he uses only ladder as practice. A lot of koreans use their team and that is why in general koreans are a tier above foreigners is because they practice in a house and against each other a ton. They don't put that much into ladder like you seem to think.

Look at makaprime he's #1 korean GM and what are his tournament results? His last time he played was in september where he lost to sjow in code A. Laddering doesn't show how good you are, but there are the exceptions.

On December 12 2011 15:13 EsMuyVien wrote:
No, I don't. I make it seem like having a record around .500 is NOT A BAD thing.


And I restate what I said before. Great players can have great records. Most of them do... but you're wrong if you think that great players actually spend time trying to top the ladder.

On December 12 2011 15:17 Sfydjklm wrote:

Considering Idra is used to using ladder as primary source of practice i would say he is not doing well.
Whether his back on life tilt or just adjusting to korean environment im definitely not expecting any good results from idra for at least a bit.

On December 12 2011 15:13 EsMuyVien wrote:
No, I don't. I make it seem like having a record around .500 is NOT A BAD thing.


And I restate what I said before. Great players can have great records. Most of them do... but you're wrong if you think that great players actually spend time trying to top the ladder.

On December 12 2011 15:40 epicdemic wrote:


And you know this how? This is a really stupid assumption, especially with the Korean mindset regarding competition in mind. Koreans want to be the best, every player that is playing on ladder is trying their best.

Also, part of being a great player means that you have to have motivation. If you don't have motivation (like LiquidTyler had some motivational issues for example) you simply will not be able to deliver quality results.

On December 12 2011 16:04 EsMuyVien wrote:


Because the best players (including even Idra) wouldn't do something as arbitrary as play only to win online, ladder points? Playing to ladder and playing to get better are two different things, man (though you can get better by laddering).

And by your rationale, having motivation would mean doing the most to become a better player - ie practicing in a more productive way than just beating fools on ladder.