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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8082 Posts
December 19 2017 23:45 GMT
#113101
On December 20 2017 03:31 polgas wrote:
He could just leave SM if he hates the company. But his letter sounds like he has been struggling with depression for a while and can't find anyone to help him.

It’s not that easy to leave when you are made a star, and anyone normal would get depressed living like that and having literally zero control over your life and your image at age 27.

I mean maybe the fact he was depressed had nothing to do with the horrendous pressure and horrifying lifestyle imposed by an uber abusive industry. Maybe.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 03:34:27
December 19 2017 23:53 GMT
#113102
I don't think its that easy to leave Slave Master Entertainment even ignoring the legal consequences, this is the life he knows and has known. They made him, shaped him, taught him how to dance, how to walk, how to talk, its all he knows.

Its not uncommon for famous people to get depression due to all of the pressure(and frankly, hate). Wouldnt be suprised if it played a factor.

Hope it will lead to some change but im skeptical

SM is not stupid, they probably gave him all of the mental help they could but mental health is not fixable by medicine or a pill.
WriterXiao8~~
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8866 Posts
December 20 2017 06:17 GMT
#113103
On December 19 2017 23:54 LennX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 22:51 Seeker wrote:
On December 19 2017 12:02 Lachrymose wrote:
The final words from his suicide note are crushingly sad.

+ Show Spoiler +
What more can I say?
Just tell me I worked hard.
That it was good of me to come this far.
That I worked hard.
Even if you can't smile as you let me go, please don't blame me.
I worked hard.
I really did work hard.

Good bye.

Do you have the source for this?



It was taken from Nine (of Dear Cloud) social media. JongHyun left instructions for her to release when he passed. His family permission was sought and granted before Nine release the note.

so....we are to assume that nine knew jonghyun was going to commit suicide and no authorities or relevant people were warned previously?

its a shame that another korean celebrity has taken their own life, but its not surprising at all.
the korean entertainment industry is absolutely disgusting behind the scenes. its not just an issue of the way the celebrities are treated and managed by companies, but its the culture and mentality that is drilled into them and the fact that they have to weak "masks" their entire life until they decide to step out of the spotlight (if they can). fans (foreign fans in particular if you look at comments on allkpop and the like) also need to claim some responsibility imo. the sheer amount of deluded fans who think their favourite celebrities are pure, angels, model citizens etc is ridiculous and only adds to the pressure and lies that celebrities have to try to live up to. unless the korean entertainment industry comes clean about the sex, drugs, prostitution, corruption on top of the superficial and shallow mentalities, anyone who enters that industry must brace themselves for an incredibly depressing life.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17282 Posts
December 20 2017 09:05 GMT
#113104
Foreign fans are going to be largely irrelevant here. These artists are going to be reading primarily Korean outlets, not international ones. Sasaengs also take things to a much greater level of crazy than what you see in most of the world.

In any event, there have been many pieces on just how bad it is there. There have been other celebrities who have killed themselves over these same things. Nothing changed then and I don't expect anything to change now. It's the kind of thing that's going to need at least another generation to occur, since it will require such an overhaul of the culture and people in top management positions. You basically need the existing executives to die off and be replaced.
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Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
December 20 2017 09:06 GMT
#113105
On December 20 2017 15:17 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2017 23:54 LennX wrote:
On December 19 2017 22:51 Seeker wrote:
On December 19 2017 12:02 Lachrymose wrote:
The final words from his suicide note are crushingly sad.

+ Show Spoiler +
What more can I say?
Just tell me I worked hard.
That it was good of me to come this far.
That I worked hard.
Even if you can't smile as you let me go, please don't blame me.
I worked hard.
I really did work hard.

Good bye.

Do you have the source for this?



It was taken from Nine (of Dear Cloud) social media. JongHyun left instructions for her to release when he passed. His family permission was sought and granted before Nine release the note.

so....we are to assume that nine knew jonghyun was going to commit suicide and no authorities or relevant people were warned previously?


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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8866 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-20 09:38:18
December 20 2017 09:34 GMT
#113106
On December 20 2017 18:05 Craton wrote:
Foreign fans are going to be largely irrelevant here. These artists are going to be reading primarily Korean outlets, not international ones. Sasaengs also take things to a much greater level of crazy than what you see in most of the world.

In any event, there have been many pieces on just how bad it is there. There have been other celebrities who have killed themselves over these same things. Nothing changed then and I don't expect anything to change now. It's the kind of thing that's going to need at least another generation to occur, since it will require such an overhaul of the culture and people in top management positions. You basically need the existing executives to die off and be replaced.

the artists themselves may not be as aware of how foreign fans perceive them, but companies arent. foreign fans are very much accounted for nowadays and obviously this will impact their management of their assets. the increase in celebrities that are fluent in english and are from other countries has also helped to reduce the isolated appreciation that foreign fans had.

also it was incredibly selfish of jonghyun to tell nine about those things and then follow through with suicide. if youre gonna tell someone about it, give them a chance to help you. nine has to live with the burden of knowing jonghyun was severely depressed, couldnt do anything to help him, was too late to save him and then had to be the one to pass on his last words. feel sorry for that person
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 21 2017 05:03 GMT
#113107
RIP jonghyun, i really respected him as a singer and artist
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 03:32:07
December 22 2017 02:19 GMT
#113108
Her stylization is Nine9, by the way.

-
Momoland kicking off 2018 with a Shinsadong Tiger + Beom & Nang track.
2018 confirmed for year of Momoland.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 18:36:23
December 22 2017 18:36 GMT
#113109
Oh My Girl about to bless all once again. Thank you lord.
[image loading]
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 24 2017 10:30 GMT
#113110
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone in KMD!
Another year of greatness! Here's to many more!
A small gift from me, to you: OMG Yooa - Closer in 4K. Get hype for their comeback! And as always, more fancams on same channel with more songs!

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
WinterWoes
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia450 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-28 07:41:09
December 28 2017 07:38 GMT
#113111
Hope everyone had a great Christmas.

Some more LOONA before the end of the year.

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marialee
Profile Blog Joined December 2017
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-28 09:41:22
December 28 2017 09:40 GMT
#113112
--- Nuked ---
nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
December 29 2017 15:51 GMT
#113113
OhMyGirl's animu ost is out.

Mix of Japanese, Korean, English, and prettiness.
Hope that Yasuhiro Nightow sees it fit to work them into more animu adaptions of his work in the future.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
December 29 2017 17:20 GMT
#113114
Eunha bodypillow yes pls lmao

http://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=144&aid=0000530312
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4984 Posts
December 30 2017 22:27 GMT
#113115
really liking the Oh My Girl song actually
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WinterWoes
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia450 Posts
December 31 2017 02:45 GMT
#113116
Getting closer to Oh My Girl's comeback! Here's a song/performance preview from their Knowing Bros ep.

Also a Mini Album story teaser
+ Show Spoiler +
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WinterWoes
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia450 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-31 17:21:47
December 31 2017 12:42 GMT
#113117
MBC Gayo Daejejeon has just started and the list of artist is pretty good. Here's a link to a restream: stream

WJSN's stage

Lovelyz & No Brain collab stages
+ Show Spoiler +



Twice
+ Show Spoiler +



HyunA
+ Show Spoiler +

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nanashin
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1584 Posts
January 01 2018 02:04 GMT
#113118
Lovelyz reminding me that before female idols covering Crush and female idols with Wheesung impressions.

Females covering No Brain was my ultimate fetish.
Now you must build the lies you have told. - Looking for Boram JP single trading card, have Jiyeon.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
January 02 2018 15:23 GMT
#113119
Sounds freaking great!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-03 14:32:26
January 03 2018 14:32 GMT
#113120


oh - and the rest of t-ara leaving mbk
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
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