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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
November 20 2013 17:58 GMT
#100281
On November 20 2013 18:30 Kaiwa wrote:
It's called The Alveolar Flap. (Atleast the R/L thing ㄹ). It's also not the first time they wrote it Hyolyn, I've seen it on many teasers, next week promos and even albums I believe.

it's funny that they romanize their language with it as well
ie, the overlay for cctvs - 'Lobby Camera 1' would be written as 'Robby Camera 1'

On November 21 2013 02:36 SongByungWewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 18:09 Attica wrote:
On November 20 2013 17:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
lol hyolyn?


Pretty sure there's no straight 'r' sound in korean. It's more of a fusion of 'r' and 'l'. So when you say I love you in korean which is sarang-hae it sounds like sa-rlang-hay. This is why asians have a tough time learning the R sound because their language doesn't even make that sound.

Koreans full of stuff like that. Such as Gayoon from 4minute is pronounced Kha yune because a G in front of a word is a K sound. If it comes after a vowel it sounds like a G sound.


What do you mean Asians have a tough time? The Chinese language is full of R sounds.

the 'r' sound you're talking about is different. for example the sound for 普洱 'pu3-er3' is synonymous with the 'er' in a word like 'better'

they also have trouble with different variations/combinations of l's and r's
stuff like
sorry -> solly
peril -> pelil
very -> velly
pretty universal across all Asians speaking english, be it Korean, Jap, Canto, Mandarin, etc. there's a stereotype for a reason.
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KimG
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway88 Posts
November 20 2013 18:00 GMT
#100282
I haven't seen any 2NE1 stuff for quite some time.. But what the hell happened to them? I can hardly recognize any of the members, they have changed so much.. ><

The song itself is decent, not the best song I've heard neither the worst.
SongByungWewt
Profile Joined October 2013
China593 Posts
November 20 2013 18:08 GMT
#100283
On November 21 2013 02:58 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 18:30 Kaiwa wrote:
It's called The Alveolar Flap. (Atleast the R/L thing ㄹ). It's also not the first time they wrote it Hyolyn, I've seen it on many teasers, next week promos and even albums I believe.

it's funny that they romanize their language with it as well
ie, the overlay for cctvs - 'Lobby Camera 1' would be written as 'Robby Camera 1'

Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:36 SongByungWewt wrote:
On November 20 2013 18:09 Attica wrote:
On November 20 2013 17:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
lol hyolyn?


Pretty sure there's no straight 'r' sound in korean. It's more of a fusion of 'r' and 'l'. So when you say I love you in korean which is sarang-hae it sounds like sa-rlang-hay. This is why asians have a tough time learning the R sound because their language doesn't even make that sound.

Koreans full of stuff like that. Such as Gayoon from 4minute is pronounced Kha yune because a G in front of a word is a K sound. If it comes after a vowel it sounds like a G sound.


What do you mean Asians have a tough time? The Chinese language is full of R sounds.

the 'r' sound you're talking about is different. for example the sound for 普洱 'pu3-er3' is synonymous with the 'er' in a word like 'better'

they also have trouble with different variations/combinations of l's and r's
stuff like
sorry -> solly
peril -> pelil
very -> velly
pretty universal across all Asians speaking english, be it Korean, Jap, Canto, Mandarin, etc. there's a stereotype for a reason.


The r sound in ren is not an "er" sound. Nor is the r sound in rui. There are multiple "r" sounds in the Mandarin language. I don't know any Mandarin speakers who have trouble pronouncing sorry or peril or very. In fact peril has the same r sound as pu-er.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 18:42:32
November 20 2013 18:27 GMT
#100284
lol, german GEMA is blocking the new song on the fucking official YG channel.....


Ps. i want the crazy 2ne1 back, who are these emo people?
giesecke
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany361 Posts
November 20 2013 18:46 GMT
#100285
On November 21 2013 03:27 LaNague wrote:
lol, german GEMA is blocking the new song on the fucking official YG channel.....


Ps. i want the crazy 2ne1 back, who are these emo people?


nah they don't.
basically yg needs to give clearance for that song to youtube. but obviously they don't bother to do that for a market where they don't make money anyways. therefore it is blocked by default no matter on/in which channel.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 20 2013 18:57 GMT
#100286
not sure why you're surprised YG or any other official stuff for that matter has been banned for a few years now in germany.

Afaik it used to be available for the first few hours and then blocked by GEMA but nowadays when I try to watch the video on release time it's already blocked.

PS: I recommend hola unblocker, seems proxymate seems to stopped working but yeah I was out of the country a few months ago and browsing youtube was a whole different experience :D
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 19:01:11
November 20 2013 18:59 GMT
#100287
On November 21 2013 03:08 SongByungWewt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:58 andyrau wrote:
On November 20 2013 18:30 Kaiwa wrote:
It's called The Alveolar Flap. (Atleast the R/L thing ㄹ). It's also not the first time they wrote it Hyolyn, I've seen it on many teasers, next week promos and even albums I believe.

it's funny that they romanize their language with it as well
ie, the overlay for cctvs - 'Lobby Camera 1' would be written as 'Robby Camera 1'

On November 21 2013 02:36 SongByungWewt wrote:
On November 20 2013 18:09 Attica wrote:
On November 20 2013 17:39 evilfatsh1t wrote:
lol hyolyn?


Pretty sure there's no straight 'r' sound in korean. It's more of a fusion of 'r' and 'l'. So when you say I love you in korean which is sarang-hae it sounds like sa-rlang-hay. This is why asians have a tough time learning the R sound because their language doesn't even make that sound.

Koreans full of stuff like that. Such as Gayoon from 4minute is pronounced Kha yune because a G in front of a word is a K sound. If it comes after a vowel it sounds like a G sound.


What do you mean Asians have a tough time? The Chinese language is full of R sounds.

the 'r' sound you're talking about is different. for example the sound for 普洱 'pu3-er3' is synonymous with the 'er' in a word like 'better'

they also have trouble with different variations/combinations of l's and r's
stuff like
sorry -> solly
peril -> pelil
very -> velly
pretty universal across all Asians speaking english, be it Korean, Jap, Canto, Mandarin, etc. there's a stereotype for a reason.


The r sound in ren is not an "er" sound. Nor is the r sound in rui. There are multiple "r" sounds in the Mandarin language. I don't know any Mandarin speakers who have trouble pronouncing sorry or peril or very. In fact peril has the same r sound as pu-er.

ok I'll expand on this. you're only partially right in that the r sound is common in Chinese.
+ Show Spoiler [unrelated] +

first, the 'r' in 'ren2' is the same sound as the 'er' in 'pu3 er2'.

it's the same 'er' suffix that mainlanders attach to the end of seemingly every word. this difference in dialect gives mainlanders an advantage in this aspect as southern Mandarin dialect has much less 'er' sounds. For example, 'na2 er' (or 'na2r') 哪儿 is only a part of northern Chinese, whereas southern Chinese typically uses 'na2 li' 哪裏.

peril requires a different rolling of the tongue than 'pu3 er2', similar to ru for 'ru2 he2' (如何).
problem occurs because the ending syllable of 'ril' is difficult for Chinese people to say because of the proximity of the 'r' and 'l' sounds.

for what it's worth, I know a literal boatload of people from both regions of China/Taiwan and they all have varying degrees of trouble with these consonants.


On a kmd-related note
T-ara will do their reinterpretation of Sand Pebbles song "What Do I Do" that first became popular through college music festivals in 1977.

T-ara will sample Sand Pebbles song "What Do I Do" to recreate and update it with composer Shinsadong Tiger for a brand new 2013 version. The arrangement will be trendy for young adults but will also bring back memories for the older population. It will be a pop dance song with a traditional melody.

T-ara created a retro craze with "Roly-Poly" and want to recreate that craze again in 2013 with "What Do I Do". They want to be able to bring back happy memories of the past once again.

T-ara's jacket image for "2013 What Do I Do" was released today and it features a cassette tape.

T-ara will release "What Do I Do" on December 2nd.

source
CASSETTE TAPES FOR HI FIDELITY AUDIO
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 19:20:06
November 20 2013 19:07 GMT
#100288
in related news, NICOLE BACK TO MURICA FOR FREEDOM?

kyuhyun vs Bischu Broodwar lol
SongByungWewt
Profile Joined October 2013
China593 Posts
November 20 2013 19:40 GMT
#100289
hahaha a literal boatload XD. Nice pun, not sure if intentional. I think you're right in that Northern Chinese don't have anywhere near as much trouble though. My entire mom's side is Northerners and they have no problem at all pronouncing the Rs in sorry, peril, etc. My Taiwanese friends on the other hand pronounce it like you're saying, but it is definitely not a universal trait of Asians.
Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
November 20 2013 21:28 GMT
#100290
I like the new 2NE1 song, much much better than their last few songs, or what CL tried to do solo.
im ji geum - ellin - eunji - spica - a pink - naeun - sojinyura - HAERYUNG<3 - Red Velvet
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
November 20 2013 22:48 GMT
#100291
New 2NE1 pretty good, i really like the verses and the production there, unfortunatly the chorus is not that great and makes the song a bit boring.
SongByungWewt
Profile Joined October 2013
China593 Posts
November 21 2013 00:01 GMT
#100292
On November 21 2013 07:48 Waywatcher wrote:
New 2NE1 pretty good, i really like the verses and the production there, unfortunatly the chorus is not that great and makes the song a bit boring.


That's a really accurate analysis imo. The song's overall pleasant and has a nice feel, but there's no catchy hook or chorus. It just sort of falls flat. The energy level never changes throughout the song. Not impressed.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 21 2013 00:26 GMT
#100293
Pretty nice cover of Turbo's December



Can't top the original of course though.
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polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1786 Posts
November 21 2013 04:28 GMT
#100294
[image loading]
from http://instagram.com/p/g16Y9KH_pr/

I can watch these two make cute faces all day.


2ne1 song is ok. MV could use a little more varied facial expression though (not talking about just Bom).
Leee Jaee Doong
Monocle
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1509 Posts
November 21 2013 04:38 GMT
#100295
New San E feat. Sanchez
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 21 2013 04:43 GMT
#100296
Short MV for Shinee's new Japanese single, kinda cool



I didn't like some of their recent Japanese stuff but I do like this. Also I listened to the Japanese version of Everybody and it sounded quite nice surprisingly.

Lee Juck's album is a good listen, don't think anyone mentioned it.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37100 Posts
November 21 2013 08:10 GMT
#100297
On November 21 2013 13:28 polgas wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
from http://instagram.com/p/g16Y9KH_pr/


I can watch these two make cute faces all day.


2ne1 song is ok. MV could use a little more varied facial expression though (not talking about just Bom).

:/ SM seriously needs to nerf these two...
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
November 21 2013 11:40 GMT
#100298
On November 21 2013 13:43 Hall0wed wrote:
Short MV for Shinee's new Japanese single, kinda cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E5wbJ8ml3w

I didn't like some of their recent Japanese stuff but I do like this. Also I listened to the Japanese version of Everybody and it sounded quite nice surprisingly.

Lee Juck's album is a good listen, don't think anyone mentioned it.


cool stuff, thanks, would probably ve missed it as the jpop market is kinda not my thing these days.
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
November 21 2013 15:20 GMT
#100299
Awww yiss
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-21 15:27:59
November 21 2013 15:26 GMT
#100300
On November 22 2013 00:20 DwD wrote:
Awww yiss
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F56DAxmZJo


Hype! Also Younha within now and 10 days! I saw this, but I'm not sure whether it's an album,a song or something else

[image loading]
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