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On February 06 2012 16:21 DystopiaX wrote: I think that your movies/drama argument applies to kdramas as well. May be cause it's new to you but many of the plots seem to be very stereotypical/generic in origin.
K-drama is actually a step below the current trends in american dramas, damm how do i illustrate this
for example, a decade ago when the rich kid (e.g boys over flowers) brings the girl back home, the mother kicks her ass and the boy saves her
now (secret garden) the boy says the mum is right. what is happening is that the plot is acknowledging the cheesiness and the writer is engaging with a form of realism.
the american drama today, takes things a step further (e.g LOST), it is unfamiliar, alienating to most casual viewers and requires sophistication.
but this is precisely what makes k-drama so attractive, the stereotypical plot is recognizable and the development does not stray enough from the straight corridor so as to isolate the first time viewer.
From what I heard, lots of Kdramas consist of romance riddled with affairs, death, and disease. So I do agree with you on that Korean dramas attracts those first time viewers with stereotypical plots, although I haven't watched a lot of them.
Comparing daytime dramas (soaps) to kdramas isn't quite the same thing though because kdramas air in primetime and so is more equivalent to something like LOST or an HBO series.
Japan is the second biggest music market in the world. When Korean artists make it there they wont need to go to the states.
EDIT: I wouldn't compare K dramas to big budget prime time shows like lost. They seem to fall in the middle of Soap and Prime time drama. They have a higher budget and production value then soaps but don't have the seasonal structure of some of these bug prime time soaps.
Most of the K dramas I've seen are one offs (With the exception of Dream High 2 which was just released). But like someone stated these sets and actors get thrown around so much that some of them feel like they're the same.
Good example is SNSD Yoona playing a interior designer in You're My Destiny and then a Fashion Designer in Cinderella Man. Coupled with the fact that she can only act well in scenes shes very very sad it felt like I was watching season 2 of *insert drama*
man on man, reading your responses has been awesome ;D right on so many diferent levels and perspectives!! ahh!! i pretty speechless lol. i usually go, "but what about blah blah blah" but nope, you guys covered it pretty solidly lol.
On February 06 2012 16:06 jodogohoo wrote: hmm, would you guys say that you enjoy and "consume" more korean entertainment than american entertainment? Would you say korean entertainment is superior or steadly improving compared to american entertainmant and that korean entertainment has already, or will in the future over take american entertainment? i mean... korea has access to a huge market "aka china" and they are actively trying to make it work.
i guess in terms of music, television/drama, movies, etc...
Korean entertainment will never overtake American entertainment simply because English is the most spoken language around the world.
Chinese (Mandarin) is the most spoken language. In terms of buying power however, English does have more.
On February 06 2012 16:54 Radioman wrote: Japan is the second biggest music market in the world. When Korean artists make it there they wont need to go to the states.
EDIT: I wouldn't compare K dramas to big budget prime time shows like lost. They seem to fall in the middle of Soap and Prime time drama. They have a higher budget and production value then soaps but don't have the seasonal structure of some of these bug prime time soaps.
Most of the K dramas I've seen are one offs (With the exception of Dream High 2 which was just released). But like someone stated these sets and actors get thrown around so much that some of them feel like they're the same.
Good example is SNSD Yoona playing a interior designer in You're My Destiny and then a Fashion Designer in Cinderella Man. Coupled with the fact that she can only act well in scenes shes very very sad it felt like I was watching season 2 of *insert drama*
ofc not, Korean entertainment isn't big enough to warrant a budget like a Lost, I'm just saying that in terms of cultural prominence/how big they are in TV kdramas and primetime tv shows are the closest analogue to each other.
@SkyR that would make more sense but "daytime dramas" refer specifically to soaps so I was assuming that's what he meant.
On February 06 2012 16:57 skyR wrote: I think he was referring to primetime? Since we are talking about Lost...
And primetime American series are pretty shit... Most of the good series end up going downhill after the first two seasons or so.
This is precisely why I watch K Dramas over American TV. Sure, the stories are practically all crafted from the same mould but at least they fkn end.I'd rather watch 6 different shows with the same plot than watch the same show for 6 years (only 1 and a half of which were actually decent)
On February 06 2012 16:06 jodogohoo wrote: hmm, would you guys say that you enjoy and "consume" more korean entertainment than american entertainment? Would you say korean entertainment is superior or steadly improving compared to american entertainmant and that korean entertainment has already, or will in the future over take american entertainment? i mean... korea has access to a huge market "aka china" and they are actively trying to make it work.
i guess in terms of music, television/drama, movies, etc...
People love korean stuff in the same way people like japanese stuff. It's a change to what we're used to.
A friend of mine was a real japanophile that spent thousands of dollars on anime, videogames and japanese movies. When i recently asked him if he was still interested he said something i think is very true. "After a while you realize that japanese pop culture is just as boring and generic as american or european, it's just that it's really fun when you're not accustomed to it".
On February 06 2012 16:54 Radioman wrote: EDIT: I wouldn't compare K dramas to big budget prime time shows like lost. They seem to fall in the middle of Soap and Prime time drama. They have a higher budget and production value then soaps but don't have the seasonal structure of some of these bug prime time soaps.
Most of the K dramas I've seen are one offs (With the exception of Dream High 2 which was just released). But like someone stated these sets and actors get thrown around so much that some of them feel like they're the same.
Good example is SNSD Yoona playing a interior designer in You're My Destiny and then a Fashion Designer in Cinderella Man. Coupled with the fact that she can only act well in scenes shes very very sad it felt like I was watching season 2 of *insert drama*
that is.. actually part of the attraction.
k-drama - k-pop is built on the foundation of idol worship and fandom. the seasonal structure easily gets stale but fans will still <3 their idols regardless, so the point is to get more fans and not maintain/ gravitate towards steady (and falling) viewership. as scary as it sounds, while the american entertainment industries loves their "target" demographics / tried and tested tv show formats, the korean entertainment industry embraces the chaos quite willingly to gamble on stars / writers.
my point i guess, is that you are supposed to feel like you are watching season 2 (of "yoong's acting journey") :p
I might have chimed in with the wrong understanding of the K drama discussion. I didn't read the last page. I'm kind of in the middle of sleeping and We Got Married. Sorry if my latest post was kind of random.
On February 03 2012 09:23 Spekulatius wrote: Because the Sojin love train isn't full enough.
I'd give my left sock for a full video.
Hyeri used to be my favourite in girls day but this video changed that lol. Ever since been searching for a better quality version on everywhere you can think of. Jap BSS boards etc but to no avail ;(.
Korean entertainment will never overtake American entertainment, not in America anyway. I watch and listen to much more Korean stuff nowadays though, because once I found out about it, I liked it. Some things are better to me, some things are just different. LOST was an amazing show and there is nothing in Korea on that level, but TV in America now is absolute dog shit, so catching up on must watch k-dramas or watching the latest SNSD show is better than watching CSI: Rhode Island.
Also, there aren't goddesses like Seohyun in American pop culture, so there's always that. + Show Spoiler +
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