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marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 07:53:51
February 09 2011 07:52 GMT
#13661
Higurashi When They Cry and Umineko no Naku Koro ni
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
Blobskillz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany548 Posts
February 09 2011 07:55 GMT
#13662
On February 09 2011 16:52 marxgarza wrote:
Higurashi When They Cry and Umineko no Naku Koro ni


Umineko was crap but Higurashi is still one of my favorites
Kakera
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 07:57:33
February 09 2011 07:56 GMT
#13663
Ok I'll expound on my comment, your's may be why i posted but it was honestly a few pages back where i started brooding about it. And my main point to my brooding WAS that the anime is years old and people continue to bring it up like it's fotm. So while Sure it may seem elitist, but honestly I'm not a big fan of the people who have only watched adult swim anime. Though in retrospect I can sit here and say everyone needs to start somewhere, but I'm not a very nice person.

Also my bad for recommending Conan, didnt recall you wrote that though thats probably what put it in my head lol. Trying to wrack my brain for more mysteries though I hate the genre personally. Conan bored the crap out of me cause there was only story progression every other 20 episodes it felt like. And even when it was "progression" it was small insignificant recall of some other insignificant point in the past story line in the form of a flashback.

Great detective poirot and marple
Puppet master Sakon
Neuro
Meitantei Loki Ragnarok detective/no mystery
Mezzo
Tons more but im bored. Read some summaries and see if you like any in there.

Higurashi ni is still my mind blown anime... Never finished it sadly, might do that this weekend in fact O.o
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 09:28:33
February 09 2011 09:28 GMT
#13664
Started Mirai Nikki. Interesting premises.

Can someone help me navigate hongfire?

EDIT: going to sleep for now though.
Stuck.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 09:36:59
February 09 2011 09:33 GMT
#13665
Wtf. This torrent for Nanoha A's 8 has some Russian dub in addition to the Japanese audio and English subs. : |

Edit: I was able to disable the Russian audio track, but still, wtf man.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
February 09 2011 10:47 GMT
#13666
On February 09 2011 14:37 Gao Xi wrote:
Wow does anyone not watch Kimi ni todoke except me and the other guy? zzz I need to have a discussion of the epicality.

Other guy >: (

It got subbed later than usual for me so I'll have to wait until I get home from work, but now I'm super excited since you used the word "epicness".
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 12:13:37
February 09 2011 12:12 GMT
#13667
I tried watching Kimi no Todoke way back when, but dropped it after about 10 episodes. I couldn't take all the misunderstandings. The show was bad for my blood pressure, it was so rage inducing.

@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.
Liquipedia
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 15:39:48
February 09 2011 13:21 GMT
#13668
Tried to watch Bungaku Shoujo. I really did. But their faces. That's just... not right. When I can't pay attention to what's going on because I'm preoccupied with the poorly designed characters, something has gone horribly wrong.

Another complaint. I'm done watching pussy protagonists. Worse yet, it's a PASSIVE pussy protagonist. Even Shinji in NGE is better. He may have been a pussy, but he was at least passive-aggressive and piloted a giant robot, braving torturous psychological attacks, excruciating physical pain and having to make tough decisions even while dealing with emotional instability. This guy gets cold feet from getting famous. All the drama would be utterly nonexistent if he manned up a little and wasn't such a passive, ball-less retard.

In conclusion, I can't watch shit where drama is caused by the protagonist being too passive and stupid to do anything, and where the characters' faces look absolutely retarded. Jawlines were absolutely nonexistent. Their eyes were pasted right onto the flat surface of their faces. And the CHINS. You could crack a glacier with those chins.
/rant

edit: Went ahead and drew the main character a new chin:
He isn't human
[image loading]
Redrawn:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now his chin does not look like an alien's
[image loading]


Despite my redraw, there still things that make the face look awkward, such as excessively droopy eyes and the alignment of the middle of the eyes with the top of the ears and the nose with the bottom of the ears. Worse is how the hair sits on the scalp, suggesting a very strange shape for the skull, and that's while ignoring the nonexistent jaw that tapers into a pointed chin common in this style, but without the more gradual slope to the ears that the precence of a proper jawline would normally have afforded. And don't get me started on how shapless the face is when viewed from an angle. No suggestion of cheeks, brow, or eye socket. Most likely consistent with the original style.
REEBUH!!!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 14:24:38
February 09 2011 14:22 GMT
#13669
Something is clearly wrong indeed, with your priorities probably That and those chins are honestly kind of common when it comes to anime/manga style drawing, just that it was already somewhat poignant when it comes to Takeoka Miho's original drawings and anime style defined the lines much sharper.

and Konoha's fault isn't his passivity, but I guess you are too distracted by chins

On February 09 2011 21:12 Spazer wrote:
I tried watching Kimi no Todoke way back when, but dropped it after about 10 episodes. I couldn't take all the misunderstandings. The show was bad for my blood pressure, it was so rage inducing.

@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.

I just site search with google and try to keep the terms in Japanese.

On February 09 2011 16:52 marxgarza wrote:
Higurashi When They Cry and Umineko no Naku Koro ni

Umineko isn't mystery per se.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 14:40:08
February 09 2011 14:37 GMT
#13670
On February 09 2011 16:28 MaRiNe23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 16:10 Kakera wrote:
What's with the influx of kids who've only seen Death note? That anime was like years ago... Or is this just a regular thing with this thread, like every month or so you get like 8 of them coming in here going omgwtfbbqdeathnote wtb more death note, shame it was so long moar deathnote1!one

In related news, detective Conan or some shit for detective mystery blahdeblah.

It's not just death note man. I explicitely mentioned in my post that I also enjoyed detective conan. I said I like mystery. I don't understandd what ur problem is? Death note was a really good anime. I've also seen dragon ball z and yu yu hakusho and even though these were very good anime's, mystery aniime's are my most favorite that's why I chose death note specifically since ppl seem to know that more than detective conan.

Can we plz not critisize what anime i choose to watch becuz it's my own personal preference? All I wanted to know was if there were any anime's like death note, that's it.

Like someone else said, the only anime I can think of is Monster. Its a mystery. It is paced kinda slow, but it really does a good job focusing pretty much only on plot and characters. It isn't as... "Flashy" as Death Note, but IMO its better.

But really, Code Geass is by far the closest anime out there to Death Note, in style. And since you mentioned you got distracted by the "hot bunny girl" at the beginning, that means you (for some reason) started with Code Geass R2, which was the sequel. Essentially you started in the middle of the show.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19230 Posts
February 09 2011 15:12 GMT
#13671
GOSICK is a mystery show. Try that? I'm enjoying it right now.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
LunarC
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1186 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 15:23:15
February 09 2011 15:13 GMT
#13672
On February 09 2011 23:22 Ecael wrote:
Something is clearly wrong indeed, with your priorities probably That and those chins are honestly kind of common when it comes to anime/manga style drawing, just that it was already somewhat poignant when it comes to Takeoka Miho's original drawings and anime style defined the lines much sharper.

and Konoha's fault isn't his passivity, but I guess you are too distracted by chins

I think my priorities are justified. Anime is equal parts art and story-telling. So is manga. These elements are interdependent and may cover for one another's shortcomings to an extent. I thought the original artist's style was absolutely atrocious.

I would say the same about Clannad's anime rendition at a glance. Granted, I haven't watched it, but I just can't take these characters seriously when their eyes are untastefully large and their mouths are literally half an inch below their eyelines.

You could be right about Konoha. Then again, I don't actually care for the character at all. Just wanted to rant about how fucking strange all the characters look.

In another note, Gosick would be decent if it didn't fall into conventional character archetypes so often, if its mysteries didn't fail to be engaging, and especially if Kazuya didn't just run around yelling "EEEEEHHHHHH!?" or "VICTORICAAA!!" all the time in an incredibly annoying voice. And, as always, the female lead has feelings for the male lead despite him having next to no redeeming qualities.
/jaded
REEBUH!!!
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 15:18:50
February 09 2011 15:18 GMT
#13673
On February 09 2011 23:22 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.

I just site search with google and try to keep the terms in Japanese.
-_-

On February 10 2011 00:12 tofucake wrote:
GOSICK is a mystery show. Try that? I'm enjoying it right now.

The actual mysteries in Gosick are horrible though. I mean, from the moment the culprit is introduced, it's immediately obvious that they're responsible just because of how stupidly suspicious they look.

[image loading]

Yeah.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 09 2011 15:42 GMT
#13674
On February 10 2011 00:13 LunarC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 23:22 Ecael wrote:
Something is clearly wrong indeed, with your priorities probably That and those chins are honestly kind of common when it comes to anime/manga style drawing, just that it was already somewhat poignant when it comes to Takeoka Miho's original drawings and anime style defined the lines much sharper.

and Konoha's fault isn't his passivity, but I guess you are too distracted by chins

I think my priorities are justified. Anime is equal parts art and story-telling. So is manga. These elements are interdependent and may cover for one another's shortcomings to an extent. I thought the original artist's style was absolutely atrocious.

I would say the same about Clannad's anime rendition at a glance. Granted, I haven't watched it, but I just can't take these characters seriously when their eyes are untastefully large and their mouths are literally half an inch below their eyelines.

You could be right about Konoha. Then again, I don't actually care for the character at all. Just wanted to rant about how fucking strange all the characters look.

In another note, Gosick would be decent if it didn't fall into conventional character archetypes so often, if its mysteries didn't fail to be engaging, and especially if Kazuya didn't just run around yelling "EEEEEHHHHHH!?" or "VICTORICAAA!!" all the time in an incredibly annoying voice. And, as always, the female lead has feelings for the male lead despite him having next to no redeeming qualities.
/jaded

I don't know if that is you being jaded or simply wanting to give yourself a hard time with anime and manga, but I suppose being jaded really just means the latter.

I am not really disagreeing about your taste, I am just saying that you picked something awfully common in this type of stuff to have issues over
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
February 09 2011 15:49 GMT
#13675
On February 09 2011 21:12 Spazer wrote:
I tried watching Kimi no Todoke way back when, but dropped it after about 10 episodes. I couldn't take all the misunderstandings. The show was bad for my blood pressure, it was so rage inducing.

@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.

Idk, usually i rage too, but for this show i don't, must be the main character and her chibi scenes.
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 15:55 GMT
#13676
On February 10 2011 00:18 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 23:22 Ecael wrote:
@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.

I just site search with google and try to keep the terms in Japanese.
-_-

Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 00:12 tofucake wrote:
GOSICK is a mystery show. Try that? I'm enjoying it right now.

The actual mysteries in Gosick are horrible though. I mean, from the moment the culprit is introduced, it's immediately obvious that they're responsible just because of how stupidly suspicious they look.


It's just the type of mystery. Not sure how it is in English but in Japan a rather popular section of mysteries is not so much the mystery itself. Especially because of the effect of Furuhata Ninzaburou on popular culture. In that series you actually see the suspect and the crime committed in the first 5 minutes - the rest of the episode is spent watching the detective uncover the tricks used and then outwit the suspect.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 09 2011 15:58 GMT
#13677
On February 10 2011 00:55 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 00:18 Spazer wrote:
On February 09 2011 23:22 Ecael wrote:
@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.

I just site search with google and try to keep the terms in Japanese.
-_-

On February 10 2011 00:12 tofucake wrote:
GOSICK is a mystery show. Try that? I'm enjoying it right now.

The actual mysteries in Gosick are horrible though. I mean, from the moment the culprit is introduced, it's immediately obvious that they're responsible just because of how stupidly suspicious they look.


It's just the type of mystery. Not sure how it is in English but in Japan a rather popular section of mysteries is not so much the mystery itself. Especially because of the effect of Furuhata Ninzaburou on popular culture. In that series you actually see the suspect and the crime committed in the first 5 minutes - the rest of the episode is spent watching the goth loli do cute things.


I fixed that for you.

As for the original post, that style of mystery show sounds WAY different than ours. That might be one genre where I like more Western influences.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
February 09 2011 16:10 GMT
#13678
On February 09 2011 16:56 Kakera wrote:
Ok I'll expound on my comment, your's may be why i posted but it was honestly a few pages back where i started brooding about it. And my main point to my brooding WAS that the anime is years old and people continue to bring it up like it's fotm. So while Sure it may seem elitist, but honestly I'm not a big fan of the people who have only watched adult swim anime. Though in retrospect I can sit here and say everyone needs to start somewhere, but I'm not a very nice person.

Also my bad for recommending Conan, didnt recall you wrote that though thats probably what put it in my head lol. Trying to wrack my brain for more mysteries though I hate the genre personally. Conan bored the crap out of me cause there was only story progression every other 20 episodes it felt like. And even when it was "progression" it was small insignificant recall of some other insignificant point in the past story line in the form of a flashback.

Great detective poirot and marple
Puppet master Sakon
Neuro
Meitantei Loki Ragnarok detective/no mystery
Mezzo
Tons more but im bored. Read some summaries and see if you like any in there.

Higurashi ni is still my mind blown anime... Never finished it sadly, might do that this weekend in fact O.o



You want to know what was wrong with Conan? even if each mystery only took up one day they would still have traveled at least 2 years into the future. It's one of those BREAK THE LAWS OF TIME AND SPACE NO ONE AGES MANGA. Those ones really annoy me especially when they 'try' to make everything else believable in their mystery solving.

Also for good anime theres also Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo it even has a decent live-action, but thats not by my standards I never liked live-action
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 16:53:45
February 09 2011 16:49 GMT
#13679
On February 09 2011 22:21 LunarC wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Tried to watch Bungaku Shoujo. I really did. But their faces. That's just... not right. When I can't pay attention to what's going on because I'm preoccupied with the poorly designed characters, something has gone horribly wrong.

Another complaint. I'm done watching pussy protagonists. Worse yet, it's a PASSIVE pussy protagonist. Even Shinji in NGE is better. He may have been a pussy, but he was at least passive-aggressive and piloted a giant robot, braving torturous psychological attacks, excruciating physical pain and having to make tough decisions even while dealing with emotional instability. This guy gets cold feet from getting famous. All the drama would be utterly nonexistent if he manned up a little and wasn't such a passive, ball-less retard.

In conclusion, I can't watch shit where drama is caused by the protagonist being too passive and stupid to do anything, and where the characters' faces look absolutely retarded. Jawlines were absolutely nonexistent. Their eyes were pasted right onto the flat surface of their faces. And the CHINS. You could crack a glacier with those chins.
/rant

edit: Went ahead and drew the main character a new chin:
He isn't human
[image loading]
Redrawn:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now his chin does not look like an alien's
[image loading]


Despite my redraw, there still things that make the face look awkward, such as excessively droopy eyes and the alignment of the middle of the eyes with the top of the ears and the nose with the bottom of the ears. Worse is how the hair sits on the scalp, suggesting a very strange shape for the skull, and that's while ignoring the nonexistent jaw that tapers into a pointed chin common in this style, but without the more gradual slope to the ears that the precence of a proper jawline would normally have afforded. And don't get me started on how shapless the face is when viewed from an angle. No suggestion of cheeks, brow, or eye socket. Most likely consistent with the original style.



Yeah & wtf is wrong with their eyes
no I didn't like the art on Bungaku Shoujo either, it was okayish movie otherwise but uhh looking at those faces was tough.

I recently finished ef - a tale of melodies and I think I liked it better than ef - a tale of memories.
Both were great though, I love the experimental style.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 17:17:04
February 09 2011 17:14 GMT
#13680
Could they have picked a more lame name for the cannons on the ships in Nanoha? Arc-en-ciel. "WE'LL KILL THEM WITH OUR RAINBOW"

+ Show Spoiler [ef] +
I'm torn between the two. I like Chihiro's story about writing the book in spite of the amnesia, but I think that Mizuki's story with the violin player guy is pretty powerful and inspiring too.

I never understood though how Chihiro lost her eye though. Did the car that hit her have spikes on it?
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