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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 09 2011 17:47 GMT
#13681
The Japanese love to use Arc-en-ciel, I don't even know why

In terms of the games, ef part 2 is considered to be a lot better. Though it is pretty funny that Chihiro route wasn't actually completed in the first installment of the game and the anime aired before the second installment, effectively spoiling that whole route. But yeah Yuuko and Mizuki too awesome, rest simply can't compare.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 09 2011 18:06 GMT
#13682
Finished Nanoha A's.

+ Show Spoiler +
I liked the movie more, but A's was pretty good. I loved all the human v human fights, but the ones against the animals and stuff were pretty meh. I didn't really like the one against the Book of Darkness thing either. The story wrapped up nicely, and I guess now everyone knows that Nanoha is a mage. It was pretty surreal to see everyone get older in the end too. Nanoha's future hairstyle is pretty meh
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
February 09 2011 18:43 GMT
#13683
On February 09 2011 22:21 LunarC wrote:
Tried to watch Bungaku Shoujo. I really did. But their faces. That's just... not right. When I can't pay attention to what's going on because I'm preoccupied with the poorly designed characters, something has gone horribly wrong.

Another complaint. I'm done watching pussy protagonists. Worse yet, it's a PASSIVE pussy protagonist. Even Shinji in NGE is better. He may have been a pussy, but he was at least passive-aggressive and piloted a giant robot, braving torturous psychological attacks, excruciating physical pain and having to make tough decisions even while dealing with emotional instability. This guy gets cold feet from getting famous. All the drama would be utterly nonexistent if he manned up a little and wasn't such a passive, ball-less retard.

In conclusion, I can't watch shit where drama is caused by the protagonist being too passive and stupid to do anything, and where the characters' faces look absolutely retarded. Jawlines were absolutely nonexistent. Their eyes were pasted right onto the flat surface of their faces. And the CHINS. You could crack a glacier with those chins.
/rant

edit: Went ahead and drew the main character a new chin:
He isn't human
[image loading]
Redrawn:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now his chin does not look like an alien's
[image loading]


Despite my redraw, there still things that make the face look awkward, such as excessively droopy eyes and the alignment of the middle of the eyes with the top of the ears and the nose with the bottom of the ears. Worse is how the hair sits on the scalp, suggesting a very strange shape for the skull, and that's while ignoring the nonexistent jaw that tapers into a pointed chin common in this style, but without the more gradual slope to the ears that the precence of a proper jawline would normally have afforded. And don't get me started on how shapless the face is when viewed from an angle. No suggestion of cheeks, brow, or eye socket. Most likely consistent with the original style.


There is a huge lack of strong male characters nowadays and I don't see that changing. The anime industry seems content with that and it's disappointing.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 18:45 GMT
#13684
I'd argue that's the case for most of the worldwide entertainment industry in general, as more things trend toward revolving around femme fatale etc.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 19:01:26
February 09 2011 19:00 GMT
#13685
On February 10 2011 02:14 Ferrose wrote:
Could they have picked a more lame name for the cannons on the ships in Nanoha? Arc-en-ciel. "WE'LL KILL THEM WITH OUR RAINBOW"

+ Show Spoiler [ef] +
I'm torn between the two. I like Chihiro's story about writing the book in spite of the amnesia, but I think that Mizuki's story with the violin player guy is pretty powerful and inspiring too.

I never understood though how Chihiro lost her eye though. Did the car that hit her have spikes on it?

I guess it's just suppose to sound cool
+ Show Spoiler [ef] +
Probably the head lights broke and glass got it idk
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 19:03 GMT
#13686
All ef makes me think of is the fandisc, and how it was a terrible tease to their next VN, which I don't think is out yet. Blargh. :V
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
February 09 2011 19:03 GMT
#13687
On February 10 2011 03:43 marxgarza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 22:21 LunarC wrote:
Tried to watch Bungaku Shoujo. I really did. But their faces. That's just... not right. When I can't pay attention to what's going on because I'm preoccupied with the poorly designed characters, something has gone horribly wrong.

Another complaint. I'm done watching pussy protagonists. Worse yet, it's a PASSIVE pussy protagonist. Even Shinji in NGE is better. He may have been a pussy, but he was at least passive-aggressive and piloted a giant robot, braving torturous psychological attacks, excruciating physical pain and having to make tough decisions even while dealing with emotional instability. This guy gets cold feet from getting famous. All the drama would be utterly nonexistent if he manned up a little and wasn't such a passive, ball-less retard.

In conclusion, I can't watch shit where drama is caused by the protagonist being too passive and stupid to do anything, and where the characters' faces look absolutely retarded. Jawlines were absolutely nonexistent. Their eyes were pasted right onto the flat surface of their faces. And the CHINS. You could crack a glacier with those chins.
/rant

edit: Went ahead and drew the main character a new chin:
He isn't human
[image loading]
Redrawn:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now his chin does not look like an alien's
[image loading]


Despite my redraw, there still things that make the face look awkward, such as excessively droopy eyes and the alignment of the middle of the eyes with the top of the ears and the nose with the bottom of the ears. Worse is how the hair sits on the scalp, suggesting a very strange shape for the skull, and that's while ignoring the nonexistent jaw that tapers into a pointed chin common in this style, but without the more gradual slope to the ears that the precence of a proper jawline would normally have afforded. And don't get me started on how shapless the face is when viewed from an angle. No suggestion of cheeks, brow, or eye socket. Most likely consistent with the original style.


There is a huge lack of strong male characters nowadays and I don't see that changing. The anime industry seems content with that and it's disappointing.

I agree I wish they'd make an anime of Sharin no Kuni or G-Senjou no Maou to show how badass eroge heroes are suppose to be
[TLNY]Mahjong Club Thread
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 09 2011 19:07 GMT
#13688
On February 10 2011 04:03 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 03:43 marxgarza wrote:
On February 09 2011 22:21 LunarC wrote:
Tried to watch Bungaku Shoujo. I really did. But their faces. That's just... not right. When I can't pay attention to what's going on because I'm preoccupied with the poorly designed characters, something has gone horribly wrong.

Another complaint. I'm done watching pussy protagonists. Worse yet, it's a PASSIVE pussy protagonist. Even Shinji in NGE is better. He may have been a pussy, but he was at least passive-aggressive and piloted a giant robot, braving torturous psychological attacks, excruciating physical pain and having to make tough decisions even while dealing with emotional instability. This guy gets cold feet from getting famous. All the drama would be utterly nonexistent if he manned up a little and wasn't such a passive, ball-less retard.

In conclusion, I can't watch shit where drama is caused by the protagonist being too passive and stupid to do anything, and where the characters' faces look absolutely retarded. Jawlines were absolutely nonexistent. Their eyes were pasted right onto the flat surface of their faces. And the CHINS. You could crack a glacier with those chins.
/rant

edit: Went ahead and drew the main character a new chin:
He isn't human
[image loading]
Redrawn:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now his chin does not look like an alien's
[image loading]


Despite my redraw, there still things that make the face look awkward, such as excessively droopy eyes and the alignment of the middle of the eyes with the top of the ears and the nose with the bottom of the ears. Worse is how the hair sits on the scalp, suggesting a very strange shape for the skull, and that's while ignoring the nonexistent jaw that tapers into a pointed chin common in this style, but without the more gradual slope to the ears that the precence of a proper jawline would normally have afforded. And don't get me started on how shapless the face is when viewed from an angle. No suggestion of cheeks, brow, or eye socket. Most likely consistent with the original style.


There is a huge lack of strong male characters nowadays and I don't see that changing. The anime industry seems content with that and it's disappointing.

I agree I wish they'd make an anime of Sharin no Kuni or G-Senjou no Maou to show how badass eroge heroes are suppose to be


I'm reading through Sharin right now, and I keep thinking that KyoAni or something should make an anime. I wonder if they would keep the H-scenes though, or maybe just make something up and have the characters in a more modest relationship.

And Morita is like my hero : /
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 19:09 GMT
#13689
On February 10 2011 04:03 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 03:43 marxgarza wrote:
On February 09 2011 22:21 LunarC wrote:
Tried to watch Bungaku Shoujo. I really did. But their faces. That's just... not right. When I can't pay attention to what's going on because I'm preoccupied with the poorly designed characters, something has gone horribly wrong.

Another complaint. I'm done watching pussy protagonists. Worse yet, it's a PASSIVE pussy protagonist. Even Shinji in NGE is better. He may have been a pussy, but he was at least passive-aggressive and piloted a giant robot, braving torturous psychological attacks, excruciating physical pain and having to make tough decisions even while dealing with emotional instability. This guy gets cold feet from getting famous. All the drama would be utterly nonexistent if he manned up a little and wasn't such a passive, ball-less retard.

In conclusion, I can't watch shit where drama is caused by the protagonist being too passive and stupid to do anything, and where the characters' faces look absolutely retarded. Jawlines were absolutely nonexistent. Their eyes were pasted right onto the flat surface of their faces. And the CHINS. You could crack a glacier with those chins.
/rant

edit: Went ahead and drew the main character a new chin:
He isn't human
[image loading]
Redrawn:
+ Show Spoiler +
Now his chin does not look like an alien's
[image loading]


Despite my redraw, there still things that make the face look awkward, such as excessively droopy eyes and the alignment of the middle of the eyes with the top of the ears and the nose with the bottom of the ears. Worse is how the hair sits on the scalp, suggesting a very strange shape for the skull, and that's while ignoring the nonexistent jaw that tapers into a pointed chin common in this style, but without the more gradual slope to the ears that the precence of a proper jawline would normally have afforded. And don't get me started on how shapless the face is when viewed from an angle. No suggestion of cheeks, brow, or eye socket. Most likely consistent with the original style.


There is a huge lack of strong male characters nowadays and I don't see that changing. The anime industry seems content with that and it's disappointing.

I agree I wish they'd make an anime of Sharin no Kuni or G-Senjou no Maou to show how badass eroge heroes are suppose to be


Muramasa and Hanachirasu (the two Nitro+ bladework VNs), Ecael might correct me later but the main char of Dies Irae seems pretty awesome, etc. there's plenty, the anime industry just seems to prefer girl-centric ones, and I don't really blame them. Femme fatales sell better (see: Majikoi, although the main character did a pretty good job standing tall). Steins;Gate is a VN that was carried by the male protagonist (can see my blog about that) but we assume it's going to be a failure of an anime based on C;G and how hard it'll be to bring the science and dialog to anime form. *shrugs* OreTsuba also had really good main protagonists but it may not work out well. That's just how things go. It's muuuuuuuuch safer to do smoething girl-centric where the content doesn't even have to be that good to attract people.

Also, Sayama from the AHEAD series. Bwahahah.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 19:28:22
February 09 2011 19:26 GMT
#13690
Is the Steins;Gate VN in English yet?

Edit: OreTsubasa as well?

They sound like they would be really good, and if the adaptations suck I want to actually see how good they truly are.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
February 09 2011 19:38 GMT
#13691
Seeing how even chaos;head got translated I can't imagine that people won't work on Steins;Gate. No idea about OreTsuba.

Honestly what kind of badass do people want anyway? Also, the real badass in bungaku shoujo series is Touko-senpai, always.
jthom182
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1 Post
February 09 2011 19:41 GMT
#13692
I'm not sure if you can help, this was two-three years ago i used to watch this anime show on late night G4 tv... I obviously don't remember the title, but it was about a man that could transform into a demon/beast and his body took on an armor, the biggest physiological change was his right arm, it became unaturally large like a giant fist/hammer, and he primarily used a lightning attack out of that fist. The plot of the story was he was looking for his kidnapped sister. In the final episodes he found his sister but she was possessed and he had to destroy her to set her free. He had a female companion that had rabbit ears or some rabbit trait I believe. I appreciate your time and if you cannot answer my question if you could give me any hints as to where I could ask I would really appreciate it. Thank you
Nerf_Zerg
Profile Joined October 2010
United States39 Posts
February 09 2011 20:01 GMT
#13693
On February 10 2011 00:13 LunarC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 23:22 Ecael wrote:
Something is clearly wrong indeed, with your priorities probably That and those chins are honestly kind of common when it comes to anime/manga style drawing, just that it was already somewhat poignant when it comes to Takeoka Miho's original drawings and anime style defined the lines much sharper.

and Konoha's fault isn't his passivity, but I guess you are too distracted by chins

I think my priorities are justified. Anime is equal parts art and story-telling. So is manga. These elements are interdependent and may cover for one another's shortcomings to an extent. I thought the original artist's style was absolutely atrocious.

I would say the same about Clannad's anime rendition at a glance. Granted, I haven't watched it, but I just can't take these characters seriously when their eyes are untastefully large and their mouths are literally half an inch below their eyelines.

You could be right about Konoha. Then again, I don't actually care for the character at all. Just wanted to rant about how fucking strange all the characters look.

In another note, Gosick would be decent if it didn't fall into conventional character archetypes so often, if its mysteries didn't fail to be engaging, and especially if Kazuya didn't just run around yelling "EEEEEHHHHHH!?" or "VICTORICAAA!!" all the time in an incredibly annoying voice. And, as always, the female lead has feelings for the male lead despite him having next to no redeeming qualities.
/jaded



I slighly disagree. I would say story is a bit more important than art, like a 60/40 ratio. I've seen quite a few anime where the art and animation was nothing to brag about but the story kept me engaged to the point that i didn't care about the art that much.
"The only constant in life is change".
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 20:05 GMT
#13694
Also, different mangaka draw different ways. Studios, in turn, usually make a concerted effort to keep true to the mangaka's art style. American comics usually have art that's nothing to write home about. But you'll have hell on your hands trying to animate some of those with vastly different art. Honey and Clover, for instance, I know turned off a lot of people because of the art, but that's just the way the girl draws. Same for Kaiji/Akagi, for whom the mangaka has become quite known for the distinct drawing style of people. You'll see similar artistic styles in stuff like Saraiya Goyou, and some anime that have no base material get pretty experimental (Noein). You can't just come on and bash them because they don't suit your preference, because that's all it is.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 09 2011 20:15 GMT
#13695
Screenshots of the Clannad VN (to fortify Southlight's point):

[image loading]

[image loading]
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 20:46:30
February 09 2011 20:44 GMT
#13696
On February 10 2011 00:49 Gao Xi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 21:12 Spazer wrote:
I tried watching Kimi no Todoke way back when, but dropped it after about 10 episodes. I couldn't take all the misunderstandings. The show was bad for my blood pressure, it was so rage inducing.

@Wala: A guide to using hongfire:
1) Use the search.
2) Cross your fingers and hope to god that the results are actually relevant.

Idk, usually i rage too, but for this show i don't, must be the main character and her chibi scenes.

Every week I rage about this show and the misunderstandings, but then Sawako goes chibi and I'm over it.

edit: Are you tools done with Sharin yet? I have hardly even touched Clannad because I've already read the manga and seen the anime twice. So, it's a bit over kill at this point, but it's still enjoyable for the other characters that were excluded from the anime.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 20:57 GMT
#13697
I finished Sharin several years ago, sup? :D?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
February 09 2011 21:12 GMT
#13698
On February 10 2011 05:57 Southlight wrote:
I finished Sharin several years ago, sup? :D?

Where were you when I wanted to talk about the ending, but those other fools hadn't finished >: (

Kimi Ni Todoke
+ Show Spoiler +
Ok, okokok, fuck you, Kent. I totally thought Kaze (yeah, I'm gonna shorten it) was going to confess and it was going to be gravy, but NOW it's going to be him TRYING to, but she's going to blow him off because of what that shit Kent said. Man... every week this show wrecks me and makes me angry. Once again. Fuck you, Kent.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
February 09 2011 21:13 GMT
#13699
I was here waiting for you to post stuff about the ending but you never did. 'Cause I like talking to people about stuff! o/
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Thratur
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada917 Posts
February 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#13700
LoGH 87-88
+ Show Spoiler +
They keep bringing the idea that Reuental may betray Reinhard. Seriously, if he actually does it, then they wasted the surprise a billion times. I hope he just doesn't.

I wonder how Julian expect to force the Empire to write a constitution... Doesn't sound like the kind of thing Reinhard would like to do. The only person he would trust for good administration is Silverberche, and he's dead. Seeing how overworked Reinhard is, this death is worse than Fahrenheit and Steinmetz combined. He has plenty of awesome generals already.

I have no idea what's gonna happen from now. I hope we get a nice surprise.
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