Anime Discussion Thread - Page 5686

tbh I don't mind Subaru. I mean I dislike annoying/useless people but in the context of the show it seems to fit. Unless he never ends up growing or learning from his mistakes, then it's just annoying. We will see how it plays out I guess.

I just hope Rem has a happy ending or I'm going to cry for a week

so everyone is giving subaru a huge lecture on 'how to diplomacy', even throwing things like You Cant Change the Past it defines you and it makes your reputation' to a guy who can go back in time,
man it really would be a huge curveball out of nowhere if he went back again and succesfully dealt with them all super diplomatic pushing the right buttons

Like come on guys, try to put yourselves in his shoes for a minute. Most of the basis for his actions in the show are due to his time rewinding abilities. Let's forget how messed up this "power" inherently is for a minute. He was cursed to not being able to explain himself, so nobody in the show can understand his motives (not even Emilia who abandoned him for it). Obviously no one even realizes he saves lives to such extent, because most of his doing is preventing the lives from being put in such danger after time rewinding. The only people who still trust him do so out of blind faith (maybe love, Rem best girl, you got that right at least), and guess what, he regularly watches them die horrible deaths while looking over helplessly, most of the time before dying himself. To add to all that, the antagonists are of overwhelming strength. Yes, he's a bit selfish (not unrealistically so), a bit delusional too (he obviously thought this was going to be a video game world where he can save everyone, be rewarded and shit). But you guys are talking like he cannot get shit done because he lacks people skills or is too whiny or failed his math test or I don't know what else. I guess you would prefer more archetypal heroically capable characters. Imho both Subaru's desperation and the ruler candidates' unwillingness to help are perfectly understandable.

The characters are developing nicely I would say. There's still some pacing issues, I guess it can't be always as spectacular as ep 15.

Edit: Also, I read a lot of "Subaru never learns so he's annoying" absurdities. In this very episode, the end is obviously supposed to show us that Subaru has understood that he has to provide something of interest to get something in return (the "buying your oil and transport" thing). Look how that turned out: another unfathomable entity he can probably die to :D.

I gotta agree with Miragee's first paragraph. While I am enjoying the show quite a bit, Subaru's attitude and behaviour seem to be getting worse with each episode. While his behavior is somewhat understandable in this situation, he still hasn't learned the importance of manners and such.

Actually, it was one of those things that annoyed me about him from the start. Transported into some unknown world, you would think he would have realized that this world is vastly different from the one he came from by now. He can't do anything by himself yet decides to take on things by himself at times. He alienates the very people that he wants to protect. Yes, Emilia, Rem and everyone else have no idea what's going to happen because he can't tell them but at least find a way to convey the threat and make it credible. He gets asked how he knows about the witch's cult but has no answer. Anyone in Crusch's place would've just ignored his request just due to lack of information.

No, I don't want an archetypal heroic character that can do things by himself but at least, at the minimum, realize that this world isn't like your own. He ran his mouth against the knights and paid for it dearly but still hasn't learned to still his tongue when needed. He acts based on emotion atm (understandable but he should realize after Crusch that it won't help) and overall, just lacks the ability to make an convincing arguments for his cause. Basically, he wants help but doesn't give any good reasons for it and guess, he just realized that by the end of this episode. We'll see how he changes next episode but he made more enemies for Emilia in this latest episode, that's for sure.

beside the obvious killing of Rem in the previous episode lol. He's just so over the top. Hope we see him again XD

the guy was basicly tormented mentally and saw people slaughtered multiple times as well as people basicly getting tortured in front of his eyes with Rem in the cave. Asking someone like that to act rationally and to consider his position is just too much. I agree with that on the earlier episodes though.
Maybe some swap to Rem being in charge of "saving" people and being MC for a while would help because I just don't see it happening for Subaru to calm down

Rem should be in charge of saving people because it's very unlikely for Subaru to calm down? If yes, keep in mind that he knows that she died both the last two times so he's likely very wary of leaving her to do that task on her own.

Yes, I realize that (bolded parts) and I don't expect that he'll get it off the bat or to stop acting completely unemotional but the fact remains that he should've realized by now that the world he is in is very different from his own. A lot of my criticism, though seems leveled towards how he's currently acting, is about his attitude and actions from the start and all the way up to and including the fight with Emilia. He just doesn't seem to get it and I think the way he's been acting till this recent arc is a direct factor.

It's rather simple: Learn to obey instructions, be mindful of others and use your manners plus think things through. He would've never fought with Emilia if he waited in the hotel but instead, he decided to accompany her rival, make a large scene then get beaten up before deciding to tell Emilia that she owes him -_-

well yeah she did die but so far it's basicly him doing stuff by himself while being "accompanied" by the others, more or less. Until the time comes when they're fighting for their lives and she gets involved. Idk, somehow get her more involved earlier rather than just the fighting which will result in her death?
We haven't seen any input from her whatsoever on the situation other than trying to support him in "whatever it is he's doing" because she has no clue what it is he's trying to do.

What would have stopped them from letting Rem do the negotiations after a short rundown of what he wants from the other parties involved instead of him talking while he's boiling with anger for a starter?

Have Rem take a greater role seeing as she's more accustomed to this world and isn't aware of what the end outcome would be (aka, would remain calmer because she doesn't know lol).

I would've liked to see Rem be slightly more hesitant to go with his plans and at least ask for some explanation rather than just do it based on having faith in him. She did let out an 'if' n the latest episode though lol so improvement XD

because he doesn't know about the limit. If you remember the village arc where he was constantly killed; once he died three times, he was getting distressed about the amount of times that he can die. I don't believe he's gotten over that thought since. Also, there's no telling where he starts the day if he dies. I won't say much at this point, just keep watching and let us know your thoughts once you catch up