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On June 04 2015 22:58 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 22:53 Unleashing wrote:
There are plenty of good shows on the mainstream list, not just madoka. yeah I know. iirc Sent was mad about something else being on Mainstream for the same reason because it ends up being in the same list as SAO, Attack on Titan and Fairy Tail, which were included for being famous. It's just that hose few bad ones do stand out.
Clearly we need to make a new mainstream category so we can have
Mainstream (Shit) - Mainstream (Good)
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I'd rather there just not be a mainstream and include the good titles under like "Adventure" and shit like that instead of having garbage on there just because it's popular. Then again I don't really care that much. Yuri chart is what we should be doing.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
On June 04 2015 23:01 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 22:58 Toadesstern wrote:On June 04 2015 22:53 Unleashing wrote:
There are plenty of good shows on the mainstream list, not just madoka. yeah I know. iirc Sent was mad about something else being on Mainstream for the same reason because it ends up being in the same list as SAO, Attack on Titan and Fairy Tail, which were included for being famous. It's just that hose few bad ones do stand out. Clearly we need to make a new mainstream category so we can have Mainstream (Shit) - Mainstream (Good)
how about "stuff we think you should watch" and "stuff we think you should never watch"
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On June 04 2015 23:02 Numy wrote:
I'd rather there just not be a mainstream and include the good titles under like "Adventure" and shit like that instead of having garbage on there just because it's popular. Then again I don't really care that much. Yuri chart is what we should be doing.
the plebs won't allow a harem genre, nor a moe genre. We're never going to get a yuri genre, let alone a yuri chart 
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Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean it's bad right? There are some really good shows in that category and I think there is nothing wrong with having some rather bad shows on there as well: A lot of people still like them and that's why they are recommended.
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On June 04 2015 23:08 Miragee wrote:
Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean it's bad right? There are some really good shows in that category and I think there is nothing wrong with having some rather bad shows on there as well: A lot of people still like them and that's why they are recommended.
I mean we said this on the page just before this one, there are plenty of legit good shows in the mainstream category. Infact i'd argue it's more good than it is bad, overall(Of the stuff i've watched myself anyway)
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Because I don't want some fuckers coming in here and telling me how Steins;gate is the greatest anime ever made followed closely by SnK.
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On June 04 2015 23:08 Miragee wrote:
Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean it's bad right? There are some really good shows in that category and I think there is nothing wrong with having some rather bad shows on there as well: A lot of people still like them and that's why they are recommended.
Hence, include NGNL
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Or we can just add a whole new trash but worth viewing / highly entertaining with little substance category.
There's nothing wrong with anime made purely for fun.
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On June 04 2015 23:08 Miragee wrote:
Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean it's bad right? There are some really good shows in that category and I think there is nothing wrong with having some rather bad shows on there as well: A lot of people still like them and that's why they are recommended.
That's the point though. Most shows in that column are good, but are labeled with something negative (I wouldn't trust "mainstream" to be a neutral word in the mouth of the anime community, which regularly uses shit like "plebs" and "shit taste"). One Piece, Death Note, Code Geass and so on deserve to be in that chart, not because they're "mainstream", but because they're good, each in the genres they represent. The only appraisal that should be made on a recommendation chart is on the quality of the anime, not on whether or not "too many" people liked it.
@Toad
The whole point of "mainstream" was, "you know those guys who get in here who have watched nothing but Naturo and Shaman King? We need a category for those guys and that's mainstream!" or something along the lines of that.
Edit: Wait, I think I understand your point now. It's a good one. Still though, that category and how you phrased your thought kinda sounds like "you liked those trash shows? Then you'll like those other trash shows!".
I would still remove the mainstream category, remove what we deem bad from it, and relocate the other good anime in their respective columns. SnK, SAO and Fairy Tail are debatable.
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On June 04 2015 23:18 IceHism wrote:
Or we can just add a whole new trash but worth viewing / highly entertaining with little substance category.
There's nothing wrong with anime made purely for fun.
trash category spearheaded by Twintails and Magic Jesus. The dream
@ZenithM: Yeah I get you and I agree with that. I don't think we had a mainstream category before the last update at all (but we had a moe category ) it's just that lots of people in ADT, myself included, aren't very newb friendly so that probably was a push for having something for them as well so they're not overwhelemed by the chart? I've gotten that from a RL friend of mine who asked for recommendations once so I linked him the chart and he had no idea what to even look at because it's so much information.
And in the end it ended up being a mix of actually good shows and some "well, we need to include this if it's Mainstream, right?". Or well, that's how I understood it at that point.
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On June 04 2015 23:31 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 23:18 IceHism wrote:
Or we can just add a whole new trash but worth viewing / highly entertaining with little substance category.
There's nothing wrong with anime made purely for fun. trash category spearheaded by Twintails and Magic Jesus. The dream @ZenithM: Yeah I get you and I agree with that. I don't think we had a mainstream category before the last update at all (but we had a moe category ) it's just that lots of people in ADT, myself included, aren't very newb friendly so that probably was a push for having something for them as well so they're not overwhelemed by the chart? I've gotten that from a RL friend of mine who asked for recommendations once so I linked him the chart and he had no idea what to even look at because it's so much information.And in the end it ended up being a mix of actually good shows and some "well, we need to include this if it's Mainstream, right?". Or well, that's how I understood it at that point.
rofl i did the same thing
he like "I asked you what should i watch not confuse me more wtf " lol
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51117 Posts
yeah the chart needs some revamping not just in adding new shows.
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Yeah, it's probably faster to chat with the person to recommend the most appropriate single anime to watch right now, rather than letting him/her sort through 50 anime at once ;D.
Personally I used a chart when I was in college and with plenty of time on my hands; a friend of mine decided to watch every item on the chart and I followed him in the endeavour. You really get to have a broad view of what's best (in some sense) in the anime world.
But I've also tried giving recommendations to people through a chart alone, it didn't work for me either, hahaha.
Edit: Btw, I rather like the "Recommendations" section of MyAnimeList. It's classic and simple, but when enough people wrote a rec for the same anime, you can generally trust that, if you're looking for something similar to what you've already watched.
As seen here for example, the 2 obvious recommendations are those with the most backing.
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On June 04 2015 14:37 IceHism wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 13:40 Kipsate wrote:
Hell no to NGNL.
Saekano not good enough
Fate Ufotable is fine but if its a tight list then no.
Nozaki kun is fine
Parasyte not good enough
Shirobako not good enough
Didnt watch Ping Pong but I don't watch Sports anime(unless it involves Gunpla)
Saki same as above(also I thought Saki was Yuri+Sports)
wtf, these were the best shows of their season.
They aren't supposed to be best of the season(and thats arguable too) they are supposed to be shows that are AOTY material basically. The chart has to be compact as well.
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On June 04 2015 23:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 23:08 Miragee wrote:
Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean it's bad right? There are some really good shows in that category and I think there is nothing wrong with having some rather bad shows on there as well: A lot of people still like them and that's why they are recommended. Hence, include NGNL
Well, NGNL would be my lowest rated anime in the mainstream category then, including SAO, Fairy Tail and SnK, lol. But I guess it could be included, yes.
On June 04 2015 23:24 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 23:08 Miragee wrote:
Mainstream doesn't necessarily mean it's bad right? There are some really good shows in that category and I think there is nothing wrong with having some rather bad shows on there as well: A lot of people still like them and that's why they are recommended. That's the point though. Most shows in that column are good, but are labeled with something negative (I wouldn't trust "mainstream" to be a neutral word in the mouth of the anime community, which regularly uses shit like "plebs" and "shit taste"). One Piece, Death Note, Code Geass and so on deserve to be in that chart, not because they're "mainstream", but because they're good, each in the genres they represent. The only appraisal that should be made on a recommendation chart is on the quality of the anime, not on whether or not "too many" people liked it.@Toad Show nested quote +The whole point of "mainstream" was, "you know those guys who get in here who have watched nothing but Naturo and Shaman King? We need a category for those guys and that's mainstream!" or something along the lines of that. Edit: Wait, I think I understand your point now. It's a good one. Still though, that category and how you phrased your thought kinda sounds like "you liked those trash shows? Then you'll like those other trash shows!". I would still remove the mainstream category, remove what we deem bad from it, and relocate the other good anime in their respective columns. SnK, SAO and Fairy Tail are debatable.
Why? It doesn't really matter in the end whether you recommend quality stuff or stuff that people like, am I right? If I'm on the recommendation forums on MAL I often end up recommending shows that I didn't like or think that they are trash/overhyped because I think that according to that person's tastes he is likely to like it. SnK, SAO1 and Fairy Tail all have trashy tendencies and a lot of flaws but I still rated them 7/10, 6/10 and 7/10 respectively because I still enjoyed them a lot for different reasons. And in the end, there are a lot of people who just want to enjoy themselves.
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On June 05 2015 00:09 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 14:37 IceHism wrote:On June 04 2015 13:40 Kipsate wrote:
Hell no to NGNL.
Saekano not good enough
Fate Ufotable is fine but if its a tight list then no.
Nozaki kun is fine
Parasyte not good enough
Shirobako not good enough
Didnt watch Ping Pong but I don't watch Sports anime(unless it involves Gunpla)
Saki same as above(also I thought Saki was Yuri+Sports)
wtf, these were the best shows of their season. They aren't supposed to be best of the season(and thats arguable too) they are supposed to be shows that are AOTY material basically. The chart has to be compact as well.
okay, i will take your compact argument and will skim down my suggestions for the actual thing after reevaluating
but there are plenty of shows not aoty material on there and also not on the mainstream category
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Omg, after watching Chihayafuru, Steins;Gate's characters and conversations feel awfully scripted and artificial.
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Miragee, didn't you already watch SAC? That should be enough to tell you S;G isn't this amazing anime that's above everything else, contrary to what the anime community would like you to believe lol
Lastest Mikagura was so cute. I hope Seisa was so sad though. Watching Seisa be sad after UFO is just too depressing. I need a week break.
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