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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
June 28 2010 23:13 GMT
#6641
On June 29 2010 07:05 red_b wrote:
Kyo-ani plus key = amazing
Kyo-ani plus anyone else = garbage
Kyo-ani plus themselves = slightly better garbage (the only original IP they have is munto which isnt good but it's not quite lucky star)

FMP and Haruhi?
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 28 2010 23:44 GMT
#6642
On June 29 2010 07:05 red_b wrote:
Kyo-ani plus key = amazing
Kyo-ani plus anyone else = garbage
Kyo-ani plus themselves = slightly better garbage (the only original IP they have is munto which isnt good but it's not quite lucky star)

Full Metal Panic is by far the best KyoAni stuff I've watched, and it isn't Key.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
June 29 2010 00:26 GMT
#6643
On June 29 2010 07:55 Ecael wrote:
I didn't bother watching since I'll be getting my bluray at some point, but I can probably answer the question provided I understood what you meant. + Show Spoiler +
Do you mean why she appeared at that moment, or why was she in his shadow?

+ Show Spoiler +
Why she was in his shadow.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 29 2010 00:48 GMT
#6644
+ Show Spoiler [Bakemonogatari 15] +
Dunno if they explained in anime, but afterwards Araragi thought that Shinobu chanced upon him first, and without him noticing, slid into his shadow as to avoid his detection. Basically stemming from them both being vampires and consequently have the ability to manipulate the shadows as well as how now Shinobu is more or less subordinate to him (if you didn't know that part, well, you know now). Don't recall there being much of any classical precedence on the shadows thing though, not too into Western occult
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:11:43
June 29 2010 04:08 GMT
#6645
so I'm about to start Angel Beats ep11 and I was wondering

why is Yui in the pre-afterlife purgatory high school world thingy?
the way she speaks it's like if she was still alive or something
+ Show Spoiler [cause of death] +
since she was hit by a car and paralyzed...what killed her?
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:17:56
June 29 2010 04:17 GMT
#6646
On June 28 2010 12:58 Ecael wrote:
Honestly, I don't know, it is nice to be able to laugh at kanji and just move along, but not really. The Chinese definitions and pronunciation is usually completely different from the Japanese. In the end, to figure out what a word means, I found myself using dictionary or context much more than I did my ability to read kanji. The ability to look at characters and just know roughly what it might mean is nice, so is the fact that there is no effort spent on recognizing kanji, but I don't know if it is such a decisive factor.

In my experience, my Korean-speaking classmates often did the best and looked like they put in the least effort, followed by Chinese-speaking ones, followed by those with no other language backgrounds, with the gaps being pretty small. We did notice some distinctions on the tests, where the Koreans would own up grammar and most vocabs and all of the Chinese speakers but me do great on kanji writing (that reads sad tale of someone who hated writing Chinese and so moved to US), but if we look at kanji reading and definition there is very little difference. With Hangul's use of Chinese characters being pretty rare, I don't really think that Chinese was that big of a dealbreaker. Though I did enjoy a significant edge when it comes to seeing kanjis for the first time in class, but that was purely due to reading more material than others.

Going from an Asian language to another Asian language is going to be easier than going from English to an east Asian language. I know of a study (didn't really read it, though) done that apparently pointed to the learning of English by a native Korean speaker to be one of the more difficult second languages to learn. I imagine it's similar the other way around, and I imagine it's also similar for Chinese and Japanese speakers as well. I don't know for sure, but this is just my guess.

I can definitely understand that your Korean-speaking classmates did the best...the languages are so damn similar it surprises me all the time lol.

On June 29 2010 07:05 red_b wrote:
Kyo-ani plus key = amazing
Kyo-ani plus anyone else = garbage
Kyo-ani plus themselves = slightly better garbage (the only original IP they have is munto which isnt good but it's not quite lucky star)

It's already been said, but FMP, Haruhi (sans Endless Eight) and Lucky Star was pretty good too... :O!
Hello
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 04:51:08
June 29 2010 04:49 GMT
#6647
On June 29 2010 13:17 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2010 12:58 Ecael wrote:
Honestly, I don't know, it is nice to be able to laugh at kanji and just move along, but not really. The Chinese definitions and pronunciation is usually completely different from the Japanese. In the end, to figure out what a word means, I found myself using dictionary or context much more than I did my ability to read kanji. The ability to look at characters and just know roughly what it might mean is nice, so is the fact that there is no effort spent on recognizing kanji, but I don't know if it is such a decisive factor.

In my experience, my Korean-speaking classmates often did the best and looked like they put in the least effort, followed by Chinese-speaking ones, followed by those with no other language backgrounds, with the gaps being pretty small. We did notice some distinctions on the tests, where the Koreans would own up grammar and most vocabs and all of the Chinese speakers but me do great on kanji writing (that reads sad tale of someone who hated writing Chinese and so moved to US), but if we look at kanji reading and definition there is very little difference. With Hangul's use of Chinese characters being pretty rare, I don't really think that Chinese was that big of a dealbreaker. Though I did enjoy a significant edge when it comes to seeing kanjis for the first time in class, but that was purely due to reading more material than others.

Going from an Asian language to another Asian language is going to be easier than going from English to an east Asian language. I know of a study (didn't really read it, though) done that apparently pointed to the learning of English by a native Korean speaker to be one of the more difficult second languages to learn. I imagine it's similar the other way around, and I imagine it's also similar for Chinese and Japanese speakers as well. I don't know for sure, but this is just my guess.

I can definitely understand that your Korean-speaking classmates did the best...the languages are so damn similar it surprises me all the time lol.

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 07:05 red_b wrote:
Kyo-ani plus key = amazing
Kyo-ani plus anyone else = garbage
Kyo-ani plus themselves = slightly better garbage (the only original IP they have is munto which isnt good but it's not quite lucky star)

It's already been said, but FMP, Haruhi (sans Endless Eight) and Lucky Star was pretty good too... :O!

I've heard people say that, though it never quite made sense to me given how both Korean and Japanese have a writing system that's more or less alphabet based and construct their words more similar to the Western languages. There is the issue of grammar though, which does pretty much work the opposite way across East and West, so maybe that alone is enough to make it easier for us.

Well, umm...have faith folks, some of the most fluent speakers of Chinese and Japanese that I know are white, tis effort I tell you!

Every day I don't get bungaku shoujo OVA 1 I shed a lake's worth of tears, some uploader please pity me.
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
June 29 2010 05:40 GMT
#6648
welp, AB! down uhhh

what a mess.
and I thought School Days was complicated...
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
Yukidasu
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Australia125 Posts
June 29 2010 05:52 GMT
#6649
On June 29 2010 13:49 Ecael wrote:
Every day I don't get bungaku shoujo OVA 1 I shed a lake's worth of tears, some uploader please pity me.


I'm looking forward to that too, particularly the movie.
Lost in a groundless dream. You can't fly if there's nowhere to fall.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 29 2010 06:21 GMT
#6650
On June 29 2010 14:52 Yukidasu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 13:49 Ecael wrote:
Every day I don't get bungaku shoujo OVA 1 I shed a lake's worth of tears, some uploader please pity me.


I'm looking forward to that too, particularly the movie.

August 26th iirc, I preordered already. So nice that they all have BD nowadays, makes my PS3 look like less of a waste.
qoma
Profile Joined May 2009
United States34 Posts
June 29 2010 08:18 GMT
#6651
Woo. school is out, and i can finally starting watching again. Plus AX in a few days, excited for that since i missed 09. i'll probably start with whatever was recommended from the spring season a few pages back.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 29 2010 09:57 GMT
#6652
On June 29 2010 13:49 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2010 13:17 PH wrote:
On June 28 2010 12:58 Ecael wrote:
Honestly, I don't know, it is nice to be able to laugh at kanji and just move along, but not really. The Chinese definitions and pronunciation is usually completely different from the Japanese. In the end, to figure out what a word means, I found myself using dictionary or context much more than I did my ability to read kanji. The ability to look at characters and just know roughly what it might mean is nice, so is the fact that there is no effort spent on recognizing kanji, but I don't know if it is such a decisive factor.

In my experience, my Korean-speaking classmates often did the best and looked like they put in the least effort, followed by Chinese-speaking ones, followed by those with no other language backgrounds, with the gaps being pretty small. We did notice some distinctions on the tests, where the Koreans would own up grammar and most vocabs and all of the Chinese speakers but me do great on kanji writing (that reads sad tale of someone who hated writing Chinese and so moved to US), but if we look at kanji reading and definition there is very little difference. With Hangul's use of Chinese characters being pretty rare, I don't really think that Chinese was that big of a dealbreaker. Though I did enjoy a significant edge when it comes to seeing kanjis for the first time in class, but that was purely due to reading more material than others.

Going from an Asian language to another Asian language is going to be easier than going from English to an east Asian language. I know of a study (didn't really read it, though) done that apparently pointed to the learning of English by a native Korean speaker to be one of the more difficult second languages to learn. I imagine it's similar the other way around, and I imagine it's also similar for Chinese and Japanese speakers as well. I don't know for sure, but this is just my guess.

I can definitely understand that your Korean-speaking classmates did the best...the languages are so damn similar it surprises me all the time lol.

On June 29 2010 07:05 red_b wrote:
Kyo-ani plus key = amazing
Kyo-ani plus anyone else = garbage
Kyo-ani plus themselves = slightly better garbage (the only original IP they have is munto which isnt good but it's not quite lucky star)

It's already been said, but FMP, Haruhi (sans Endless Eight) and Lucky Star was pretty good too... :O!

I've heard people say that, though it never quite made sense to me given how both Korean and Japanese have a writing system that's more or less alphabet based and construct their words more similar to the Western languages. There is the issue of grammar though, which does pretty much work the opposite way across East and West, so maybe that alone is enough to make it easier for us.

Well, umm...have faith folks, some of the most fluent speakers of Chinese and Japanese that I know are white, tis effort I tell you!

Every day I don't get bungaku shoujo OVA 1 I shed a lake's worth of tears, some uploader please pity me.

Well...all languages and their corresponding written forms are completely arbitrary, so they should be looked at at least somewhat independently. The Korean written language is nearly 100% phonetic with a good amount of exceptions, but it's extremely easy to pick up. Japan's primary writing system, which I believe is a hodge podge of different things, but predominantly borrows from Chinese Kanji, is still a lot more symbolic than Korea's much more basic phonetic alphabet (I believe every symbol, aside from having its own meaning, refers to a certain syllabic sound).

The two things that are important here, I think, are word and sentence formation. Beyond that, actual accent would have quite a bit to do with it as well, I think. I think it's definitely fair to say that there are more similarities between most, if not all, dialects of Chinese and Japanese than English and Japanese.
Hello
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
June 29 2010 10:46 GMT
#6653
I just watched the last episode of Working, and I was just thinking:
[image loading]
is the exact opposite of
[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [Working] +
The episode itself was pretty funny. I didn't expect much to come out of that date, and indeed, nothing really changed.

[image loading]
:D

I hope there's a second season.
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SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
June 29 2010 15:08 GMT
#6654
Yeah, I hope Working!! gets a second season cause nothing really changed except how much Takanashi gets punched lol.

and while I wish AB! would get a 2nd season, the way it ended it'd take an entirely new direction and i'm not sure how that'd work. That show shoulda been 24-26 eps, not 13.
fail character development is fail. wtb TK back.
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
June 29 2010 15:19 GMT
#6655
I can't see Angel Beats getting a second season. Like you said, the plot is all wrapped up, and unless something stupid like "they all died again" comes into play, how are they even supposed to get together? Even some sort of Angel Beats After would be difficult to do considering the ending. I'd rather see Key work on some other production, personally. I mean, there's still one unanimated VN...

New chart just got uploaded:
[image loading]
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
June 29 2010 15:20 GMT
#6656
If it helps, my Korean coworkers all say it's easy to pick up Japanese, and encourage me to pick up Korean.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-29 16:23:01
June 29 2010 15:36 GMT
#6657
On June 30 2010 00:19 Spazer wrote:
I can't see Angel Beats getting a second season. Like you said, the plot is all wrapped up, and unless something stupid like "they all died again" comes into play, how are they even supposed to get together? Even some sort of Angel Beats After would be difficult to do considering the ending. I'd rather see Key work on some other production, personally. I mean, there's still one unanimated VN...

New chart just got uploaded:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Yeah I know what you mean...I guess at best he could do an OVA or a special episode to fill some of the huge plot holes he left alone but I doubt that's gonna happen.

@ summer chart:
holy shit Cat Shit One.
been waiting for it for a while.
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
fevax
Profile Joined February 2010
Turkey143 Posts
June 29 2010 19:58 GMT
#6658
Hi everybody, I have been recently reading this topic and decided to try "haibane renmei" because of some of the comments here. I watched it and liked it, not the way I usually like anime's but it had a different feel to it. Anyways I decided to ask you for more reccomendations since I'm having a really hard time finding animes worth to watch. I made a list here which took like 1 hour for me to do, there may be few I forgot to add but most of the anime's I watched are here:
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/fevax&show=0&order=4
I'm open to any reccomendations you have, thanks!
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
June 29 2010 20:01 GMT
#6659
On June 30 2010 04:58 fevax wrote:
Hi everybody, I have been recently reading this topic and decided to try "haibane renmei" because of some of the comments here. I watched it and liked it, not the way I usually like anime's but it had a different feel to it. Anyways I decided to ask you for more reccomendations since I'm having a really hard time finding animes worth to watch. I made a list here which took like 1 hour for me to do, there may be few I forgot to add but most of the anime's I watched are here:
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/fevax&show=0&order=4
I'm open to any reccomendations you have, thanks!

School Days
#1 arb fan -- Raelcun is Nuclear backwards. Rekrul is Lurker backwards. Grobyc is Cyborg backwards. Eniram is Marine backwards.
CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
June 29 2010 20:13 GMT
#6660
On June 30 2010 05:01 SwEEt[TearS] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2010 04:58 fevax wrote:
Hi everybody, I have been recently reading this topic and decided to try "haibane renmei" because of some of the comments here. I watched it and liked it, not the way I usually like anime's but it had a different feel to it. Anyways I decided to ask you for more reccomendations since I'm having a really hard time finding animes worth to watch. I made a list here which took like 1 hour for me to do, there may be few I forgot to add but most of the anime's I watched are here:
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/fevax&show=0&order=4
I'm open to any reccomendations you have, thanks!

School Days


I would avoid this one. hahah
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