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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 22:40:58
July 29 2013 22:39 GMT
#60221
TGWOK 04

+ Show Spoiler +
Where the fuck is Fiore?


On the topic of VA's, I dislike the voice they gave Vulcan.
WriterXiao8~~
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 29 2013 22:44 GMT
#60222
On July 30 2013 07:33 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 06:10 Sentenal wrote:
On July 30 2013 04:11 Maxie wrote:
The japanese VA:s are just a 100 times better most of the time, except for a few exceptions or if it's by, say, Ghibli or someone that actually have decent people do their dubs.

Also got my first gunpla today, fuck this is going to turn into an addiction.

What Zaku did you get?


Age-2 Zaku normal.

+ Show Spoiler +
I just thought of in ZZ when they put a Zaku head on the Zeta gundam, I guess ZZ stands for Zeta Zaku!

How can someone get Age-2 Normal rather than this one:


Age-2 Double Bullet was sooooo cool!
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 29 2013 22:44 GMT
#60223
Let's be honest, if you have the choice you always go for the originial unless it feels really weird for some reason.
I can't watch Simpsons in english because I started watching that when I was a kid in german and I'm so used to the german voices. Pretty much everything else just feels better in english if it's an english production (except for movies with Bruce Willis, his german voice is bad ass).

It's just the same with anime just that the originial language isn't english here. No big deal. I prefer swedish in TV when I'm visiting my relatives there as well. Thought it's like that for everyone and everything.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 29 2013 22:45 GMT
#60224
On July 30 2013 07:39 Kipsate wrote:
TGWOK 04

+ Show Spoiler +
Where the fuck is Fiore?


On the topic of VA's, I dislike the voice they gave Vulcan.
On July 30 2013 04:41 Toadesstern wrote:
On a TWGOK 4-note:
Vulcanus voice is weird 8(


I like you :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 29 2013 22:54 GMT
#60225


I'm mesmerized by this... been listening it on a loop for hours
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 29 2013 22:56 GMT
#60226
On July 30 2013 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's be honest, if you have the choice you always go for the originial unless it feels really weird for some reason.
I can't watch Simpsons in english because I started watching that when I was a kid in german and I'm so used to the german voices. Pretty much everything else just feels better in english if it's an english production (except for movies with Bruce Willis, his german voice is bad ass).

It's just the same with anime just that the originial language isn't english here. No big deal. I prefer swedish in TV when I'm visiting my relatives there as well. Thought it's like that for everyone and everything.

Wtf, how can you even watch something like Die Hard without Bruce Willis being voiced by himself?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 23:06:13
July 29 2013 23:01 GMT
#60227
On July 30 2013 07:56 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's be honest, if you have the choice you always go for the originial unless it feels really weird for some reason.
I can't watch Simpsons in english because I started watching that when I was a kid in german and I'm so used to the german voices. Pretty much everything else just feels better in english if it's an english production (except for movies with Bruce Willis, his german voice is bad ass).

It's just the same with anime just that the originial language isn't english here. No big deal. I prefer swedish in TV when I'm visiting my relatives there as well. Thought it's like that for everyone and everything.

Wtf, how can you even watch something like Die Hard without Bruce Willis being voiced by himself?

I think Bruce Willis can speak German.

EDIT: Or maybe not :x
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 29 2013 23:32 GMT
#60228
On July 30 2013 04:52 aers wrote:
Personally I can't tell the difference between generic childlike otaku-bait seiyuu voice #1 and #2.

Seiyuu otaku are extremely weird and seiyuu (idol in general) culture is pretty fucked up.



Thank you,

aside from one of the more prolific ones I dont really get why its necessary to differentiate between the assembly line i.e childish seiyuu voice..
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 23:38:00
July 29 2013 23:32 GMT
#60229
On July 30 2013 07:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 06:52 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.

Exceptions prove the rule.


Huh? I'm not saying that dubs are better than subs, but you make it sound like all dubs are bad.

And honestly half of Japanese voice actors have really off putting voices, so I don't understand what's with putting down dubs when I can imagine that Japanese voice actors can be just as bad.

It just so happens that one can be ignorant about whether or not their voices are bad.

I'm not saying that all dubs are bad.

On July 30 2013 07:33 EchOne wrote:
ZNF is right. Japanese VAs can be ugh terrible, and English VAs can be epic. It all depends on the money and talent that production gets a hold of for that part of the show.

Yeah, that's the thing though (see Souma's post before yours).

Just out of interest, can you name some examples of bad Japanese voice acting?

On July 30 2013 07:56 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Let's be honest, if you have the choice you always go for the originial unless it feels really weird for some reason.
I can't watch Simpsons in english because I started watching that when I was a kid in german and I'm so used to the german voices. Pretty much everything else just feels better in english if it's an english production (except for movies with Bruce Willis, his german voice is bad ass).

It's just the same with anime just that the originial language isn't english here. No big deal. I prefer swedish in TV when I'm visiting my relatives there as well. Thought it's like that for everyone and everything.

Wtf, how can you even watch something like Die Hard without Bruce Willis being voiced by himself?

Well, his German voice IS badass.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 29 2013 23:35 GMT
#60230
On July 30 2013 08:32 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:52 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.

Exceptions prove the rule.


Huh? I'm not saying that dubs are better than subs, but you make it sound like all dubs are bad.

And honestly half of Japanese voice actors have really off putting voices, so I don't understand what's with putting down dubs when I can imagine that Japanese voice actors can be just as bad.

It just so happens that one can be ignorant about whether or not their voices are bad.

I'm not saying that all dubs are bad.

Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:33 EchOne wrote:
ZNF is right. Japanese VAs can be ugh terrible, and English VAs can be epic. It all depends on the money and talent that production gets a hold of for that part of the show.

Yeah, that's the thing though (see Souma's post before yours).

Just out of interest, can you name some examples of bad Japanese voice acting?

http://myanimelist.net/people/40/Mamiko_Noto
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
July 29 2013 23:41 GMT
#60231
On July 30 2013 08:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 08:32 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 07:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:52 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.

Exceptions prove the rule.


Huh? I'm not saying that dubs are better than subs, but you make it sound like all dubs are bad.

And honestly half of Japanese voice actors have really off putting voices, so I don't understand what's with putting down dubs when I can imagine that Japanese voice actors can be just as bad.

It just so happens that one can be ignorant about whether or not their voices are bad.

I'm not saying that all dubs are bad.

On July 30 2013 07:33 EchOne wrote:
ZNF is right. Japanese VAs can be ugh terrible, and English VAs can be epic. It all depends on the money and talent that production gets a hold of for that part of the show.

Yeah, that's the thing though (see Souma's post before yours).

Just out of interest, can you name some examples of bad Japanese voice acting?

http://myanimelist.net/people/40/Mamiko_Noto


I liked her as Sawako in Kimi Ni Todoke :[
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
July 29 2013 23:43 GMT
#60232
19:35 Sentenal who is that seiyuu ecael likes alot? mamiko noto?
19:35 ecael noto mamiko
19:35 Sentenal or some other noto
19:35 gAOxI hana kana
19:35 EchOne lol
19:36 Sentenal ty~
19:36 EchOne what is sent planning...
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
July 29 2013 23:43 GMT
#60233
On July 30 2013 05:05 quebecman77 wrote:
jap voice to me sound all the same , but yeah some sound very nice but you understand nothing lol , dubs are always better because that in my language

Weird you guys love something you don't understand , ha Otaku


I don't think understanding has anything to do with it lol. Like others have mentioned, VAs hired for dubs just tend to not be high quality. It's not to say english voice actors couldn't voice anime as well, it's just in general the good ones aren't hired.
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
July 29 2013 23:53 GMT
#60234
On July 30 2013 08:35 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 08:32 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 07:22 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:52 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.

Exceptions prove the rule.


Huh? I'm not saying that dubs are better than subs, but you make it sound like all dubs are bad.

And honestly half of Japanese voice actors have really off putting voices, so I don't understand what's with putting down dubs when I can imagine that Japanese voice actors can be just as bad.

It just so happens that one can be ignorant about whether or not their voices are bad.

I'm not saying that all dubs are bad.

On July 30 2013 07:33 EchOne wrote:
ZNF is right. Japanese VAs can be ugh terrible, and English VAs can be epic. It all depends on the money and talent that production gets a hold of for that part of the show.

Yeah, that's the thing though (see Souma's post before yours).

Just out of interest, can you name some examples of bad Japanese voice acting?

http://myanimelist.net/people/40/Mamiko_Noto


Sawako is a miracle of the universe shhhh.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 29 2013 23:54 GMT
#60235
When you watch it in Japanese the "bad" VAs tend to be overlooked more because the language barrier covers up for it somewhat. However, when you watch it in your native tongue every single thing you notice.

I think a lot of the time its more a combination of "I saw it in Japanese 1st and for some reason I don't think the English voice fits the character" and "Oh. My. God. THATs how they chose to translate that line?"

Other then that it just seems like Japanese VA tend to take the job more seriously and it seems like they enjoy it more then the english ones because they deliver their lines with more passion.
Never Knows Best.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 29 2013 23:58 GMT
#60236
On July 30 2013 07:44 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 07:33 Maxie wrote:
On July 30 2013 06:10 Sentenal wrote:
On July 30 2013 04:11 Maxie wrote:
The japanese VA:s are just a 100 times better most of the time, except for a few exceptions or if it's by, say, Ghibli or someone that actually have decent people do their dubs.

Also got my first gunpla today, fuck this is going to turn into an addiction.

What Zaku did you get?


Age-2 Zaku normal.

+ Show Spoiler +
I just thought of in ZZ when they put a Zaku head on the Zeta gundam, I guess ZZ stands for Zeta Zaku!

How can someone get Age-2 Normal rather than this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9MR_sN5u5k#t=3m53s

Age-2 Double Bullet was sooooo cool!


I think I actually just disliked the flight mode, it seemed to use that a lot. Idk it seems awesome in that vid.

But I got the Normal because I like wings.


On July 30 2013 08:54 Slaughter wrote:
When you watch it in Japanese the "bad" VAs tend to be overlooked more because the language barrier covers up for it somewhat. However, when you watch it in your native tongue every single thing you notice.

I think a lot of the time its more a combination of "I saw it in Japanese 1st and for some reason I don't think the English voice fits the character" and "Oh. My. God. THATs how they chose to translate that line?"

Other then that it just seems like Japanese VA tend to take the job more seriously and it seems like they enjoy it more then the english ones because they deliver their lines with more passion.



From what I've heard, while voice acting is actually a thing in Japan, most of the people who end up dubbing your average not-so-good dub are failed actors. Or something.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 00:07:05
July 30 2013 00:06 GMT
#60237
If you want to hear bad Japanese voice acting, watch this:

http://myanimelist.net/anime/4581/Shikabane_Hime:_Aka

The main heroine and male protag (not Fujiwara Keiji) are terriblebleble.
Writer
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 00:08:01
July 30 2013 00:07 GMT
#60238
On July 30 2013 09:06 Souma wrote:
If you want to hear bad Japanese voice acting, watch this:

http://myanimelist.net/anime/4581/Shikabane_Hime:_Aka

The main heroine and male protag (not Fujiwara Keiji) are terriblebleble.


You mean the female MC? I can agree with that.

2quickedit4me. Yeah, both are bad.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
July 30 2013 00:13 GMT
#60239
Seriously, I wonder how it feels to voice act alongside such newbs when you're a top-tier voice actor such as Fujiwara Keiji or Horie Yui.

It would be like Leonardo Dicaprio acting with Michael Cera with Cera in the lead role.

Oh my ears, they hurt just remembering...
Writer
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 00:18:48
July 30 2013 00:17 GMT
#60240
List of seiyuu I can recognize 80% of time:

Hayashibara Megumi
Inoue Kikuko
Mizuki Nana
Tamura Yukari
Yukino Setsuki
Saito Chiwa
Tanaka Rie
Nakahara Mai
Sawashiro Miyuki
Sakamoto Maaya
Kuwashima Houko
Horie Yui
Inoue Marina
Koshimizu Ami
Kitamura Eri
Shimizu Ai
Ueda Kana
Itou Shizuka
Nabatame Hitomi
Shiraishi Ryouko
Yukana
Takano Urara
Park Romi
Noto Mamiko
Kawasumi Ayako
Nonaka Ai
Chihara Minori
Kugimiya Rie

In fact it's somewhat a problem with me as I recognize all the role a voice had and it's quite weird sometime, like:

On July 07 2013 08:45 ragz_gt wrote:
Genshiken... Hearing Ono and keep picturing Tessa is an experience I was not expecting...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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