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maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 18:41:05
July 29 2013 18:37 GMT
#60201
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 29 2013 19:11 GMT
#60202
The japanese VA:s are just a 100 times better most of the time, except for a few exceptions or if it's by, say, Ghibli or someone that actually have decent people do their dubs.

Also got my first gunpla today, fuck this is going to turn into an addiction.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
July 29 2013 19:37 GMT
#60203
I think what turns me off from Dubs are the weird translation. When watching an anime with sub, even if what they are saying is crazy, at least, I don't get to understand it (but can only read).

Imagine a Shirou saying in English : I won't die even if I get killed...
Now imagine a Japanese VA saying it in their cool language. And you read that translation and giggle, saying to yourself "its probably a bad translation"
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 19:42:15
July 29 2013 19:41 GMT
#60204
On a TWGOK 4-note:
Vulcanus voice is weird 8(
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
July 29 2013 19:52 GMT
#60205
Personally I can't tell the difference between generic childlike otaku-bait seiyuu voice #1 and #2.

Seiyuu otaku are extremely weird and seiyuu (idol in general) culture is pretty fucked up.
quebecman77
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada133 Posts
July 29 2013 20:05 GMT
#60206
jap voice to me sound all the same , but yeah some sound very nice but you understand nothing lol , dubs are always better because that in my language

Weird you guys love something you don't understand , ha Otaku
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 29 2013 20:20 GMT
#60207
On July 30 2013 05:05 quebecman77 wrote:
jap voice to me sound all the same , but yeah some sound very nice but you understand nothing lol , dubs are always better because that in my language

Weird you guys love something you don't understand , ha Otaku


That's what subtitles are for, and voice can convey feelings (anger, etc) even if you don't really understand the language it's spoken in - so the skill of the VA:s still matters.

I'm used to subtitles, though, as we don't dub anything except shows and movies for children.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
July 29 2013 21:07 GMT
#60208
+ Show Spoiler [The World God Only Knows S3 04] +
So this harem just grew exponentially.

But we all know who the true winner is:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Yes, you Elsie-chan =D
Skol
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 29 2013 21:10 GMT
#60209
On July 30 2013 04:11 Maxie wrote:
The japanese VA:s are just a 100 times better most of the time, except for a few exceptions or if it's by, say, Ghibli or someone that actually have decent people do their dubs.

Also got my first gunpla today, fuck this is going to turn into an addiction.

What Zaku did you get?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 29 2013 21:11 GMT
#60210
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2013 21:13 GMT
#60211
On July 30 2013 06:07 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [The World God Only Knows S3 04] +
So this harem just grew exponentially.

But we all know who the true winner is:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Yes, you Elsie-chan =D

Except you're wrong

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
It's your boy Guzma!
maru~
Profile Joined February 2013
2345 Posts
July 29 2013 21:52 GMT
#60212
On July 30 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.

Exceptions prove the rule.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 22:19:07
July 29 2013 22:08 GMT
#60213
On July 30 2013 06:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 06:07 Emnjay808 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [The World God Only Knows S3 04] +
So this harem just grew exponentially.

But we all know who the true winner is:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Yes, you Elsie-chan =D

Except you're wrong

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

don't pay attention to the guy who thought Azuki was better than tsukiko. Everything's lost with him

But you're both wrong:

+ Show Spoiler [from Episode 3 and 4!] +
not even going to bother posting a Haqua pic, that'd be just out of everyone's league so here we go, from todays episode as well:
[image loading]

actually, screw the above, here goes Haqua:+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

That was the sole reason that scene was so epic and they left it out

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 29 2013 22:22 GMT
#60214
On July 30 2013 06:52 maru~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 06:11 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:37 maru~ wrote:
On July 30 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
I guess I'm just not bothered by VAs. As long as it's not offensively bad, the voices don't matter nearly as much as the plot/animation/characters.

Good voice acting breathes life into characters, makes good characters even better and for me it's a huge part of the enjoyment and immersion when it comes to anime. Even if you don't care as much about that, I'm not sure why you would voluntarily pick bad/mediocre/lifeless/awkward voice acting over the superior alternative. But to each his own I suppose.


Some would argue the Bebop dub, FLCL dub, Black Lagoon dub, and a few Ghibli dubs (and for pure hilarity...Ghost Stories?) are better than the original.

I'm not in particular agreement, but I can see where they're coming from.

Exceptions prove the rule.


Huh? I'm not saying that dubs are better than subs, but you make it sound like all dubs are bad.

And honestly half of Japanese voice actors have really off putting voices, so I don't understand what's with putting down dubs when I can imagine that Japanese voice actors can be just as bad.

It just so happens that one can be ignorant about whether or not their voices are bad.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 22:36:26
July 29 2013 22:30 GMT
#60215
Not sure why people like Chihiro that much, Haqua and Shiro best girls

I haven't watched dubs of anime since pokemon/Dragonballz/Gundam Wing so I can't really judge on the dubs but those I have run against occasionally due to dual audio where the default setting is EN sounds weird when you have watched the Japanese ones. VA's are a pretty decent draw for watching a particular anime for me, its fun for me if I recognize some and it makes me like the character more(or dislike the character more). E.G Hanakana or Yoko Hikasa or others.
WriterXiao8~~
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
July 29 2013 22:30 GMT
#60216
On July 30 2013 04:52 aers wrote:
Personally I can't tell the difference between generic childlike otaku-bait seiyuu voice #1 and #2.

Seiyuu otaku are extremely weird and seiyuu (idol in general) culture is pretty fucked up.


Get better ears.

Anyway, Americans have amazing voice actors in the form of actual actors, for example most Disney movies. But obviously they're too expensive to employ on a regular basis in the anime industry.

Basically, most of the voice actors that are employed for dubs are second-rate/third-rate (voice) actors. Maybe if one day the American anime industry made enough money they could start employing better actors. Until then, we're stuck with the leftovers.

But I don't care 'cause I prefer Japanese voices/language as they portray the intricacies of Japanese culture a gillion times better, which is pivotal in many anime. Also don't have to deal with weird translations.
Writer
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
July 29 2013 22:33 GMT
#60217
ZNF is right. Japanese VAs can be ugh terrible, and English VAs can be epic. It all depends on the money and talent that production gets a hold of for that part of the show.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
July 29 2013 22:33 GMT
#60218
On July 30 2013 06:10 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 04:11 Maxie wrote:
The japanese VA:s are just a 100 times better most of the time, except for a few exceptions or if it's by, say, Ghibli or someone that actually have decent people do their dubs.

Also got my first gunpla today, fuck this is going to turn into an addiction.

What Zaku did you get?


Age-2 Zaku normal.

+ Show Spoiler +
I just thought of in ZZ when they put a Zaku head on the Zeta gundam, I guess ZZ stands for Zeta Zaku!
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-29 22:36:48
July 29 2013 22:34 GMT
#60219
Although the dubs i've seen were all worse (imo) then the original, i dont think it's fair to put all dubs together, based on such a small sample.
If i have the choice, i always go for the original, to me it just feels better.
All in all, I'd say more choice is more better :D

Plus, i really like to recognise 'voices', so i'd rather stick to one language 8)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 29 2013 22:38 GMT
#60220
On July 30 2013 07:30 Kipsate wrote:
Not sure why people like Chihiro that much, Haqua and Shiro best girls

She's not my favorite, but she's my favorite for Keima. Best pairing, though Tenri is my fave.
It's your boy Guzma!
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