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On December 07 2012 18:30 killa_robot wrote: Second Cour of Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +
Ugh, I was really hoping Rider would get in one good smack vs Archer in their fight. Oh well, considering how OP Archer was it was to be expected. Cool they had that sort of mutual respect, especially given how Archer viewed almost everyone as his inferior. Happy with the Rider/Waver ending.
The Kirei betrayal was pretty expected. Since his earlier meetings with Archer I kinda figured that's where it was headed.
I basically skipped Kiritsugu's past arc. Didn't really like how he acted, and was pretty happy the grail revealed how naive his ideals were.
Felt pretty bad for Kariya. Gets manipulate so hard, sacrifices everything, and accomplishes absolutely nothing (not to mention he almost kills the woman he apparently loved).
Saber has a pretty bad fate as well. Basically has to kill an old friend and then questions her entire life, along with being ordered to destroy the grail (twice for some reason).
Archer I expected to win/survive (since I knew that was coming). No real shock there, other than how completely one-sided his fights usually were.
All in all was a great show. Easy 9/10. Had it given some real connection to Kiritsugu, the supposed main character, earlier so we could have understood/empathized with him better, I might have given it a 10/10.
Rider winning would have also earned it a 10/10 lol.
As others have said, said connection/understanding of Kiritsugu is in the background episodes you skipped. And personally I think those episodes are some of the stronger ones in the show. You shot yourself in the foot by skipping them.
On December 07 2012 18:47 Elem wrote: I find it funny how you said you wanted connection, but then you skipped.the 3 episodes about his past?
Also you got a decent image of him even in FSN anime. VN did it better though.
I ended up rewatching Fate Zero after all (planned stuff was cancelled last night -> I console myself by marathoning the whole thing), and I'll say that having played the VN just adds so much to the over all enjoyment/understanding of F/Z, especially HF. And some things are a bit more sad than if you didn't know what was going to happen afterwards.
I was thinking of getting my brother into anime, but it might be a tough task. Generally I'd think FMA or something to make someone get into anime, but since we watched Spirited Away/Howl's Moving Castle together a few years ago, Mushishi might be a good one. Thoughts?
Also new Nisekoi pretty hilarious, looking forward to the next chapter :D
I got my friend into anime by showing him LOGH, I would say it's a great gateway anime (even if it is cheating to start with arguably the best).
On December 07 2012 18:30 killa_robot wrote: Second Cour of Fate/Zero + Show Spoiler +
Ugh, I was really hoping Rider would get in one good smack vs Archer in their fight. Oh well, considering how OP Archer was it was to be expected. Cool they had that sort of mutual respect, especially given how Archer viewed almost everyone as his inferior. Happy with the Rider/Waver ending.
The Kirei betrayal was pretty expected. Since his earlier meetings with Archer I kinda figured that's where it was headed.
I basically skipped Kiritsugu's past arc. Didn't really like how he acted, and was pretty happy the grail revealed how naive his ideals were.
Felt pretty bad for Kariya. Gets manipulate so hard, sacrifices everything, and accomplishes absolutely nothing (not to mention he almost kills the woman he apparently loved).
Saber has a pretty bad fate as well. Basically has to kill an old friend and then questions her entire life, along with being ordered to destroy the grail (twice for some reason).
Archer I expected to win/survive (since I knew that was coming). No real shock there, other than how completely one-sided his fights usually were.
All in all was a great show. Easy 9/10. Had it given some real connection to Kiritsugu, the supposed main character, earlier so we could have understood/empathized with him better, I might have given it a 10/10.
Rider winning would have also earned it a 10/10 lol.
As others have said, said connection/understanding of Kiritsugu is in the background episodes you skipped. And personally I think those episodes are some of the stronger ones in the show. You shot yourself in the foot by skipping them.
On December 07 2012 18:47 Elem wrote: I find it funny how you said you wanted connection, but then you skipped.the 3 episodes about his past?
Also you got a decent image of him even in FSN anime. VN did it better though.
I ended up rewatching Fate Zero after all (planned stuff was cancelled last night -> I console myself by marathoning the whole thing), and I'll say that having played the VN just adds so much to the over all enjoyment/understanding of F/Z, especially HF. And some things are a bit more sad than if you didn't know what was going to happen afterwards.
I was thinking of getting my brother into anime, but it might be a tough task. Generally I'd think FMA or something to make someone get into anime, but since we watched Spirited Away/Howl's Moving Castle together a few years ago, Mushishi might be a good one. Thoughts?
Also new Nisekoi pretty hilarious, looking forward to the next chapter :D
It depends what kind of person your brother is. Animes like bleach, naruto, FMA etc kept me away from anime. Then I eventually watched more Miyazaki's films, went into gits and paprika and after that point i was already downloading multiple similiar animes. Then I found about all nice moes too.
On December 07 2012 18:47 Elem wrote: I find it funny how you said you wanted connection, but then you skipped.the 3 episodes about his past?
Also you got a decent image of him even in FSN anime. VN did it better though.
I said I wanted the connection earlier. We're supposed to have a good idea of the person he is, and why he acts the way he does, before (or almost immediately after) he does those questionable actions. It doesn't work at all if you reveal his background + Show Spoiler +
when the show is almost 3/4s the way done. By this point I had no longer cared about his motivations.
Not to mention I know what happened in the episodes themselves, as I skimmed them, so it's not as though I didn't understand him. I just felt at this point it was too late.
Also said I haven't watched the anime in years, so I've largely forgotten it.
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
On another note:
4 episodes of Nekomonogatari Kuro on New Years. So Jan 1st or so for me. What better way to start a year? :D
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
4 episodes of Nekomonogatari Kuro on New Years. So Jan 1st or so for me. What better way to start a year? :D
How sad that we don't see any Tsukihi in the preview, which is like the main draw of neko kuro.
A little Tsukihi around 20-25 seconds in but yeah the first or so episode will be a GLORIOUS Tsukihi episode.
11:09 nagi-laptop and eca, what do you mean by no tsukihi in the preview 11:09 nagi-laptop she's right there 11:10 ecael ? 11:11 ecael do you see a crowbar? 11:11 ecael I don't 11:11 nagi-laptop lol 11:11 ecael what's this Tsukihi you speak of
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
4 episodes of Nekomonogatari Kuro on New Years. So Jan 1st or so for me. What better way to start a year? :D
How sad that we don't see any Tsukihi in the preview, which is like the main draw of neko kuro.
A little Tsukihi around 20-25 seconds in but yeah the first or so episode will be a GLORIOUS Tsukihi episode.
11:09 nagi-laptop and eca, what do you mean by no tsukihi in the preview 11:09 nagi-laptop she's right there 11:10 ecael ? 11:11 ecael do you see a crowbar? 11:11 ecael I don't 11:11 nagi-laptop lol 11:11 ecael what's this Tsukihi you speak of
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
4 episodes of Nekomonogatari Kuro on New Years. So Jan 1st or so for me. What better way to start a year? :D
How sad that we don't see any Tsukihi in the preview, which is like the main draw of neko kuro.
A little Tsukihi around 20-25 seconds in but yeah the first or so episode will be a GLORIOUS Tsukihi episode.
11:09 nagi-laptop and eca, what do you mean by no tsukihi in the preview 11:09 nagi-laptop she's right there 11:10 ecael ? 11:11 ecael do you see a crowbar? 11:11 ecael I don't 11:11 nagi-laptop lol 11:11 ecael what's this Tsukihi you speak of
11:11 nagi-laptop well, there's feathers from the pillow flying around 11:11 nagi-laptop the crowbar is just hidden 11:11 ecael lol 11:12 nagi-laptop can't give away the best part in a preview 11:12 nagi-laptop gotta save some motivation to still watch it 11:13 ecael pfft
Can't show EVERYTHING in the preview. Gotta have some reason to watch the rest. After just finishing Neko Black like yesterday, I can't wait for this. SOOOO excited for it.
On December 08 2012 01:20 Elem wrote: Oh wow I forgot about Neko Kuro. Means no shitty Senjougahara and more Hanekawa! <3
Hoping for Yui Horie doing some music for it, her ED was easily my fave for Bake.
Pfff Senjougahara isn't shitty! Neko White will be awesome too. Hanekawa AND Senjougahara (sorry Araragi fans if he has any).
edit: of course we all love Arararararagi but I still liked White for not being from his PoV.
I really don\t like her. The only girl I think is more annoying is Kanbara, but she is miles worse than any other girl in the series so it's rude to even bring her in.
On December 08 2012 01:20 Elem wrote: Oh wow I forgot about Neko Kuro. Means no shitty Senjougahara and more Hanekawa! <3
Hoping for Yui Horie doing some music for it, her ED was easily my fave for Bake.
Pfff Senjougahara isn't shitty! Neko White will be awesome too. Hanekawa AND Senjougahara (sorry Araragi fans if he has any).
edit: of course we all love Arararararagi but I still liked White for not being from his PoV.
I really don\t like her. The only girl I think is more annoying is Kanbara, but she is miles worse than any other girl in the series so it's rude to even bring her in.
I agree with you on Kanbaru. No discussion there. Senjougahara isn't my fav but I still think she's pretty good so I wanted to defend against "shitty", lol.
Kanbaru was actually one of the better narrators in a way, but her book sucked compared to other books. Kabuki was the only book w/ Araragi narration in season 2 books.
On December 08 2012 01:52 Ecael wrote: Kanbaru was actually one of the better narrators in a way, but her book sucked compared to other books. Kabuki was the only book w/ Araragi narration in season 2 books.
Makes sense that I didn't know then if you take a quick look at what is and isn't translated....
edit: omg some fansubbers are clearly genius. Yeah, of course the text of the song playing in the background is much more important than the actual conversation between characters...
On December 07 2012 18:06 Southlight wrote: Lets do this Kaze. Part 1 of that chapter done. I was tempted to translate the first half-page of part 2 but that'd be ruining everything the entire volume, hue.
Okay Uta so what you mean is you'll just do all of it in one go this weekend?
On December 07 2012 19:59 Elem wrote: Watch FMA Original, that's what got me and my brother to go serious about anime~ Watching FMA (and later Black Lagoon/Ergo Proxy) at 1 am on ZTV was the highlight of the day for us. :D Shame that they gave up on ZTV. T_T
Edit: Mushishi isn't that good of a gateway anime imo.
Rofl I "discovered" anime the same way, watched Black Lagoon on ZTV
But yeah I'm uncertain of how to do it, hm dont really know what he might like outside of more ghibli films.
4 episodes of Nekomonogatari Kuro on New Years. So Jan 1st or so for me. What better way to start a year? :D
How sad that we don't see any Tsukihi in the preview, which is like the main draw of neko kuro.
A little Tsukihi around 20-25 seconds in but yeah the first or so episode will be a GLORIOUS Tsukihi episode.
11:09 nagi-laptop and eca, what do you mean by no tsukihi in the preview 11:09 nagi-laptop she's right there 11:10 ecael ? 11:11 ecael do you see a crowbar? 11:11 ecael I don't 11:11 nagi-laptop lol 11:11 ecael what's this Tsukihi you speak of
11:11 nagi-laptop well, there's feathers from the pillow flying around 11:11 nagi-laptop the crowbar is just hidden 11:11 ecael lol 11:12 nagi-laptop can't give away the best part in a preview 11:12 nagi-laptop gotta save some motivation to still watch it 11:13 ecael pfft
Can't show EVERYTHING in the preview. Gotta have some reason to watch the rest. After just finishing Neko Black like yesterday, I can't wait for this. SOOOO excited for it.
crowbar is supposed to be stuck in his bed the entire conversation. It's being blocked by some chair or they're just purposely leaving it out in preview. Can't wait for that Tsukihi banter though! Tsukihi crowbar better live up to my expectations.