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peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
September 24 2011 21:29 GMT
#28941
Wow I think that I just realized that "moe" anime is my favorite. oO
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#28942
On September 25 2011 02:01 Ferrose wrote:
Why does Zero no Tsukaima and Louise get so much hate? I don't see what's so bad about this show so far. It's funny and has a decent concept behind it.

And Louise is so awesome with that whip. She's so S :3

Ferrose is getting good at this.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
September 24 2011 21:43 GMT
#28943
On September 25 2011 06:29 peekn wrote:
Wow I think that I just realized that "moe" anime is my favorite. oO


It's everybody's favorite "genre", but we exclude it from discussion, since we feel bad for all of the other, inferior shows.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9593 Posts
September 24 2011 21:47 GMT
#28944
God this thread... being gone for a week and now I have no idea who's trolling who anymore.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 22:18:53
September 24 2011 22:16 GMT
#28945
On September 25 2011 06:03 Truedot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 05:54 Rebs wrote:
On September 25 2011 04:13 Ecael wrote:
No one cares about the fan service that they put in, we only want fan service from the one who aren't giving any.


which is why its called fan service in the first place. Or should be anyway.

ZnT was so terriblty forgetful though. mean I remember watching it, but I used to roll through so much stuff when around then that my basic measure for rating them was how much I was able to remember 6 months later.

Hell I dont even remember the tsukaimas namen nor jokes or nuances in that show at all. I mean if I read the epi summaries quick ill be like "Ohhhh right right..." which is probably what Ill do to jar my memory for the next one. but thie last season was like what 3-4 years ago ?


so its kind of like slayers, and slayers next, or in a live action version, "friends"?


I loved slayers dude. But thats purely nostalgia value. I dont think Id like it if I saw it again. And Friends the show ? I think I probably remember every dialogue.

Slayers is up there with Yu Yu Hakusho for me.
aru
Profile Joined April 2010
183 Posts
September 24 2011 22:53 GMT
#28946
I'm curious as to what people think about mecha porn if they find fanservice in chara/moe shows distasteful.
mofuli
Profile Joined October 2010
164 Posts
September 24 2011 23:39 GMT
#28947
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
September 24 2011 23:45 GMT
#28948
On September 25 2011 08:39 mofuli wrote:
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?

when the entire premise of an anime is moe. K-ON, lucky star, etc. Steins Gate also has some funny moments, but you wouldn't call it a comedy right? It's not moe either just because of a few examples.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
MichaelEU
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands816 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 00:53:54
September 25 2011 00:53 GMT
#28949
On September 25 2011 08:45 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 08:39 mofuli wrote:
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?

when the entire premise of an anime is moe. K-ON, lucky star, etc. Steins Gate also has some funny moments, but you wouldn't call it a comedy right? It's not moe either just because of a few examples.


If you're marking LS as a moe anime, you're mistaking it with the grey area of SoL/comedy.

E: Moe anime as opposed to anime with moe elements, which LS most certainly has.
世界を革命する力を!― znf: "Michael-oniichan ( *^▽^*)ノ✩キラ✩"
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 25 2011 02:13 GMT
#28950
On September 25 2011 07:53 aru wrote:
I'm curious as to what people think about mecha porn if they find fanservice in chara/moe shows distasteful.

I enjoy both mecha porn and fanservice, lawl
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 02:42:41
September 25 2011 02:32 GMT
#28951
On September 25 2011 09:53 MichaelEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 08:45 KazeHydra wrote:
On September 25 2011 08:39 mofuli wrote:
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?

when the entire premise of an anime is moe. K-ON, lucky star, etc. Steins Gate also has some funny moments, but you wouldn't call it a comedy right? It's not moe either just because of a few examples.


If you're marking LS as a moe anime, you're mistaking it with the grey area of SoL/comedy.

E: Moe anime as opposed to anime with moe elements, which LS most certainly has.


yea the SoL is where lucky star worked for me I can relate to some of the humor so well personally I couldnt help but love it.Just with moe expression, which I really didnt notice.The referencing was pretty solid to when it was parodying stuff.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
September 25 2011 03:16 GMT
#28952
On September 25 2011 09:53 MichaelEU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 08:45 KazeHydra wrote:
On September 25 2011 08:39 mofuli wrote:
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?

when the entire premise of an anime is moe. K-ON, lucky star, etc. Steins Gate also has some funny moments, but you wouldn't call it a comedy right? It's not moe either just because of a few examples.


If you're marking LS as a moe anime, you're mistaking it with the grey area of SoL/comedy.

E: Moe anime as opposed to anime with moe elements, which LS most certainly has.

I'm not mistaking it with anything, but rather it seems we have different opinions on the definition of moe, although of course I agree that the main component of LS is comedy. However, I still view moe as a large part of the premise of LS. (A poor choice of words on my part when I said entire premise). The reason is that the characters display moe characteristics throughout the entire anime. If a show's main characters are moe enough of the time, I would label the show as moe. Also you're right about the gray area because moe anime does almost require to be combined with SoL and comedy to exist.

In my opinion, I just don't feel you can categorize LS with "anime with moe elements" because it just has so much of it. If you were in the mood to see some moe would you be satisfied with LS? I think yes, though there are better choices.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
September 25 2011 03:18 GMT
#28953
oh shit a new freezing manga! + Show Spoiler +
Shit just got real!
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 03:58:30
September 25 2011 03:37 GMT
#28954
On September 25 2011 12:16 KazeHydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 09:53 MichaelEU wrote:
On September 25 2011 08:45 KazeHydra wrote:
On September 25 2011 08:39 mofuli wrote:
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?

when the entire premise of an anime is moe. K-ON, lucky star, etc. Steins Gate also has some funny moments, but you wouldn't call it a comedy right? It's not moe either just because of a few examples.


If you're marking LS as a moe anime, you're mistaking it with the grey area of SoL/comedy.

E: Moe anime as opposed to anime with moe elements, which LS most certainly has.

I'm not mistaking it with anything, but rather it seems we have different opinions on the definition of moe, although of course I agree that the main component of LS is comedy. However, I still view moe as a large part of the premise of LS. (A poor choice of words on my part when I said entire premise). The reason is that the characters display moe characteristics throughout the entire anime. If a show's main characters are moe enough of the time, I would label the show as moe. Also you're right about the gray area because moe anime does almost require to be combined with SoL and comedy to exist.

In my opinion, I just don't feel you can categorize LS with "anime with moe elements" because it just has so much of it. If you were in the mood to see some moe would you be satisfied with LS? I think yes, though there are better choices.


Kona is more impish than anything else

I dont know. The only really moe character for me was Miyuki and Tsukasa, neither of whome I really like. Ok maybe Miyuki is kinda the moe you can like.

K-On I just couldnt stand.So its hard to say how much moe makes it moe.

. I guess its what you think is moe really. If you find something cute or feel its trying to be cute your going to call it moe.

I agree that anyone would be satisfied with the level of moe in LS though.

Also I think LS does a pretty good job of pretty much telling you straight up where the Moe is. The grey in it is a bit less. Pretty much to the point of calling it out as satire.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
September 25 2011 03:49 GMT
#28955
On September 25 2011 12:37 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 12:16 KazeHydra wrote:
On September 25 2011 09:53 MichaelEU wrote:
On September 25 2011 08:45 KazeHydra wrote:
On September 25 2011 08:39 mofuli wrote:
how does 'moe' becomes a genre? For example, steins gate also has a lot of 'moe' elements and characters and you call it moe anime?

when the entire premise of an anime is moe. K-ON, lucky star, etc. Steins Gate also has some funny moments, but you wouldn't call it a comedy right? It's not moe either just because of a few examples.


If you're marking LS as a moe anime, you're mistaking it with the grey area of SoL/comedy.

E: Moe anime as opposed to anime with moe elements, which LS most certainly has.

I'm not mistaking it with anything, but rather it seems we have different opinions on the definition of moe, although of course I agree that the main component of LS is comedy. However, I still view moe as a large part of the premise of LS. (A poor choice of words on my part when I said entire premise). The reason is that the characters display moe characteristics throughout the entire anime. If a show's main characters are moe enough of the time, I would label the show as moe. Also you're right about the gray area because moe anime does almost require to be combined with SoL and comedy to exist.

In my opinion, I just don't feel you can categorize LS with "anime with moe elements" because it just has so much of it. If you were in the mood to see some moe would you be satisfied with LS? I think yes, though there are better choices.


Kona is more impish than anything else

I dont know. The only really moe character for me was Miyuki and Tsukasa, neither of whome I really like. Ok maybe Miyuki is kinda the moe you can like.

K-On I just couldnt stand.So its hard to say how much moe makes it moe.

. I guess its what you think is moe really. If you find something cute or feel its trying to be cute your going to call it moe.

Yeah in the end the problem is some people will find x moe while others won't. Also since moe isn't a real genre, so it's subjective to all kinds of bias and opinions.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
September 25 2011 04:16 GMT
#28956
I find it a bit pointless to categorize anything into a single genre. At that point, everything becomes a subjective grey area where it's up to the individual to make of it what they want. How much "comedy" constitutes a comedy? How much "drama" is needed to be a drama? And so on. Trying to just say "Oh, this show is moe" doesn't really mean anything, much like saying "Oh, this show has romance".
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 05:37:15
September 25 2011 05:17 GMT
#28957
On September 25 2011 13:16 Zeke50100 wrote:
I find it a bit pointless to categorize anything into a single genre. At that point, everything becomes a subjective grey area where it's up to the individual to make of it what they want. How much "comedy" constitutes a comedy? How much "drama" is needed to be a drama? And so on. Trying to just say "Oh, this show is moe" doesn't really mean anything, much like saying "Oh, this show has romance".


I dont think so. Just because an action show that has romance doesnt make it romance,doesnt mean everything has to be interpretive.

It becomes pretty clear based on the kind of plot and behaviour developement what the genre is. Moe might fall into this "grey area" most other stuff doesnt really.
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
September 25 2011 05:24 GMT
#28958
SEMANTICS OH NO

Come on... we know what he MEANT, there's no need to argue what he actually SAID. Language has already done its job and there's no need to discuss this
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
September 25 2011 05:28 GMT
#28959
On September 25 2011 14:24 RoieTRS wrote:
SEMANTICS OH NO
there's no need to argue


?

User was warned for this post
DarthXX
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia998 Posts
September 25 2011 07:53 GMT
#28960
On September 25 2011 14:28 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 14:24 RoieTRS wrote:
SEMANTICS OH NO
there's no need to argue


?

?

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