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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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ElizarTringov
Bulgaria317 Posts
On August 02 2014 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Here's an interesting thought. I remember hearing somewhere that Oda consults on the anime and often adds little details he'd like to have included in the manga or change things subtly. If the above is true (which I suppose it may not be) then was Jolla not as easy to take down? And a bigger question: I'm not one to argue power levels in here, especially knowing where it leads, but if Chinjao is ex-500 mil and Caesar was 200-something, why did Luffy kick the shit out of one but not the other in the anime? I absolutely hated that struggle they created against Caesar that was anime only. Luffy didn't know Caesar's ability to manipulate air. It shows this interesting dynamic between foes who might technically be of a higher caliber but are caught off guard by the element of surprise. Not only that but luffy has almost always had a harder time vs logia users and this episode only reaffirms that. It also shows that Luffy can't use Kenbunshoku Haki to sense invisible attacks (in this case Caesar taking away all air being the attack) either that or it shows that Luffy can be caught off guard when he thinks he has already won. Luffy beating Chinjao "easily" reaffirms the fact that he's always been good in hand to hand combat. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On August 02 2014 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Here's an interesting thought. I remember hearing somewhere that Oda consults on the anime and often adds little details he'd like to have included in the manga or change things subtly. If the above is true (which I suppose it may not be) then was Jolla not as easy to take down? And a bigger question: I'm not one to argue power levels in here, especially knowing where it leads, but if Chinjao is ex-500 mil and Caesar was 200-something, why did Luffy kick the shit out of one but not the other in the anime? I absolutely hated that struggle they created against Caesar that was anime only. Bounty != powerlevel. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On August 01 2014 11:06 Mensol wrote: People made fun of me when i said Franky > Sanji. high five XiaoJoyce- HI 5 Franky manliness is undeniable ..?  Sanji , I feel he has been not performing . . AND NOT ON SCREEN TOO! His last appearance is many months ago? And , does any1 feel the same way? Diable Jamble start to feel lacking? He need some cool power like Zoro turn into Asura God or Franky incredible Robot . . . I cant wait Sanji show his new power. Diable Jamble start to feel lacking because , Vergo doesnt react much to it, Doflamingo can block it easily too . . | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
This is what i have seen after time skip. | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On August 02 2014 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Here's an interesting thought. I remember hearing somewhere that Oda consults on the anime and often adds little details he'd like to have included in the manga or change things subtly. If the above is true (which I suppose it may not be) then was Jolla not as easy to take down? And a bigger question: I'm not one to argue power levels in here, especially knowing where it leads, but if Chinjao is ex-500 mil and Caesar was 200-something, why did Luffy kick the shit out of one but not the other in the anime? I absolutely hated that struggle they created against Caesar that was anime only. i know its manga, but Chinjao would have gotten weaker as he got older | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
When he is kind , he is like a Buddha . Any1 feel this way? Serious I wan him kick all the ass of the executive . I feel Garp can beat the executive easy. And he used to be able to fight Garp . So . . . Please! Let him be awesome ! | ||
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goody153
44313 Posts
On August 02 2014 12:00 Mensol wrote: Zoro > Luffy > Franky > Sanji This is what i have seen after time skip. Pretty sure Luffy==Zoro Sanji looked weak after timeskip ..but he is gonna get some screentime soon with Bigmom's crew so he should be fine. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On August 02 2014 10:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Here's an interesting thought. I remember hearing somewhere that Oda consults on the anime and often adds little details he'd like to have included in the manga or change things subtly. If the above is true (which I suppose it may not be) then was Jolla not as easy to take down? And a bigger question: I'm not one to argue power levels in here, especially knowing where it leads, but if Chinjao is ex-500 mil and Caesar was 200-something, why did Luffy kick the shit out of one but not the other in the anime? I absolutely hated that struggle they created against Caesar that was anime only. Think of it this way. Chinjao was a straight up fight through physical strength. Caesar had tricks up his sleeve. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On August 02 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote: Pretty sure Luffy==Zoro Sanji looked weak after timeskip ..but he is gonna get some screentime soon with Bigmom's crew so he should be fine. He was kinda used as a worf for Vergo other than that he did just as much vs doflamingo as luffy did (so far atleast). Idk how Zoro or Luffy match up but Sanji does seem weaker than zoro after the timeskip, but I'd be suprised if Franky was stronger than him. | ||
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goody153
44313 Posts
On August 02 2014 17:49 Iplaythings wrote: He was kinda used as a worf for Vergo other than that he did just as much vs doflamingo as luffy did (so far atleast). Idk how Zoro or Luffy match up but Sanji does seem weaker than zoro after the timeskip, but I'd be suprised if Franky was stronger than him. I remember reading something somewhere about Oda saying that Luffy and Zoro are equally strong .. it's just that luffy faces the bosses that's why he looks the strongest Oh yeah i forgot he got rekt by Vergo lol and he was having a tough time against mingo Zoro seems to looks like the strongest since he doesn't have weaknesses and/or is generally weak vs some opponents .. and zoro just seems to overpower his opponent with skills and brute force not relying on tricks or such to beat opponents which luffy(sea is the location they are fighting) and sanji(idk sanji seems weak vs specialists like vergo or some opponent who is has a stronger brute force than him) has | ||
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
On August 02 2014 11:36 XiaoJoyce- wrote: HI 5 Franky manliness is undeniable ..? Sanji , I feel he has been not performing . . AND NOT ON SCREEN TOO! His last appearance is many months ago? And , does any1 feel the same way? Diable Jamble start to feel lacking? He need some cool power like Zoro turn into Asura God or Franky incredible Robot . . . I cant wait Sanji show his new power. Diable Jamble start to feel lacking because , Vergo doesnt react much to it, Doflamingo can block it easily too . . Agreed. Said awhile back that Sanji doesn't feel any different from pre-timeskip except that now he can jump around in the air. His combat is similar, if not identical, and his character image/design is also virtually unchanged. Feel like he might be hiding something, especially since pretty much every single other member of the crew has had a significant makeover in one or more ways. Looking forward to when he gets an extended fight scene that he has to take seriously. Had an amusing theory that it might be related to the okamas and that he's just too embarrassed/refuses to use their fighting style with people watching/unless absolutely forced. They did give him a ride back to Sabaody so he must've gotten along with them eventually in some manner instead of just being chased for 2 years straight + getting the cooking secrets from the scrolls. Or maybe Sanji's image not changing much stands for him refusing to let the okamas change him, because Sanji still likes ladies. | ||
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Eshra
France1009 Posts
On August 02 2014 19:33 Vortok wrote: Agreed. Said awhile back that Sanji doesn't feel any different from pre-timeskip except that now he can jump around in the air. His combat is similar, if not identical, and his character image/design is also virtually unchanged. Feel like he might be hiding something, especially since pretty much every single other member of the crew has had a significant makeover in one or more ways. Looking forward to when he gets an extended fight scene that he has to take seriously. Had an amusing theory that it might be related to the okamas and that he's just too embarrassed/refuses to use their fighting style with people watching/unless absolutely forced. They did give him a ride back to Sabaody so he must've gotten along with them eventually in some manner instead of just being chased for 2 years straight + getting the cooking secrets from the scrolls. Or maybe Sanji's image not changing much stands for him refusing to let the okamas change him, because Sanji still likes ladies. Blazing Fire Okama Kenpo ? | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
He's not weak, lol. | ||
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17Sphynx17
580 Posts
But I have been wondering a bit why there hasn't been any significant change really to his power. I wonder if he is still trying to regain strength after the uber massive blood loss from the mermaids. hehe! It would be an interesting plot line I guess if there was somesort of reveal to unlock his potential in battle. I am just not too sold on the idea if it was an Okama mode unlock. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I was talking about the anime only segment at the end of punk hazard where luffy struggles against caesar before knocking him out. In the manga he just immediately destroys him in that scene. | ||
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Eshra
France1009 Posts
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
I can only hope that it's not a massive disgrace to the manga like episode 649 was. ಠ_ಠ | ||
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