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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 02 2014 16:59 GMT
#16961
No, the set up was last chapter actually.
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 02 2014 17:07 GMT
#16962
On July 03 2014 01:59 Incognoto wrote:
No, the set up was last chapter actually.

this whole chapter was showing how people got to certain places and ended with the beginning of a flashback and it wasnt a set up chapter?
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 17:14:07
July 02 2014 17:13 GMT
#16963
On July 03 2014 01:47 Incognoto wrote:
We aren't even discussing the new chpater?

It was a good chapter, like every other chapter. Though not an epic chapter.


Honestly the biggest discussion point of this chapter is that there's a break next week and there's been about half as many breaks as there are chapters this arc, it's getting ridiculous at this point. D:
Razhil
Profile Joined May 2011
Belgium208 Posts
July 02 2014 18:10 GMT
#16964
Nice chapter, I want the flashback now :$

Btw page 5 & 6 don't match. On page 5, when Ucy fell, Luffy's legs were above but on page 6 they are suddenly under the bull.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
July 02 2014 18:23 GMT
#16965
Another break! WTF Don't do this to me Oda T.T At this rate we are going to have more break weeks then chapter weeks by the end of this arc......
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
July 02 2014 18:44 GMT
#16966
So no one cares that Law walked up to Dofla with grenades all over lhis body claiming all he wanted was death and destruction? I thought that was a pretty big twist
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
July 02 2014 19:02 GMT
#16967
cmon i want to see some fightttss!!
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 02 2014 19:31 GMT
#16968
omg no OP next week!!! D:

and omfg is this death flag for luo. No!!!!
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 02 2014 19:45 GMT
#16969
On July 03 2014 03:44 GettingIt wrote:
So no one cares that Law walked up to Dofla with grenades all over lhis body claiming all he wanted was death and destruction? I thought that was a pretty big twist


No, because we want to see Luffy vs Doflamingo.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
July 02 2014 20:06 GMT
#16970
Kind of felt the chapter didn't do much. I hope we just get to the Dofla fight soon, it's been dragging forever. Oda's teasing us with all these clones, he better not do a third clone or I'm probably gonna get mad >:I
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 02 2014 21:24 GMT
#16971
On July 03 2014 01:59 Incognoto wrote:
No, the set up was last chapter actually.

It feels like there's been around 20 set up chapters in a row. Or even more. When does something actually happen? And now another flashback.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 02 2014 22:54 GMT
#16972
On July 03 2014 06:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 01:59 Incognoto wrote:
No, the set up was last chapter actually.

When does something actually happen? And now another flashback.

I'm pretty sure you wouldnt say the same thing if you werent reading 1 chapter each week (when not on break I mean)
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-02 23:54:12
July 02 2014 23:53 GMT
#16973
On July 02 2014 16:10 Forikorder wrote:

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At this point in the story, at least one of the Admirals believes that the Shichibukai are not worth the benefit that they provide and wants to abolish them. It would not surprise me if Akainu decides to go along with it and shakes up the world in the process.


really? you think Akainu would willingly give up a powerful asset?


On July 02 2014 06:30 Forikorder wrote:
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On July 02 2014 06:15 Sentenal wrote:
On July 02 2014 06:10 Forikorder wrote:
On July 02 2014 06:05 Sentenal wrote:
On July 02 2014 03:24 Forikorder wrote:
On July 02 2014 03:12 Hyperbola wrote:
The shichibukai are supposed to take out other pirates and act as deterants for aspiring pirates. We've seen Mihawk, Doflamingo, Crocodile and Moria do just this.

Croc and moria only did it for there own purposes (pretending to be a hero/building a zombie army) Mihawk im willing to bet would be going around anyway and the only reason doflamingo would be a deterrent is becuase he kills so many of them taht he recruits

They do it for their own purposes, but its a mutual benefit thing. The WG knows they are still scumbag pirates. But they officially allow them to do their thing (with some obvious restraints), as long as they go around demolishing other Pirates for them.

And even at Marineford, the Shichibukai helped out there. Kuma, Doflamingo, and Moria all took care of Little Oars Jr., Kuma went around demolishing Newkama and other pirates, Doflamingo even fought Jozu at one point. Mihawk fought Whitebeard and his allies, was shown clashing with people like Jozu and Vista, not to mention going after Luffy. Moria was also helping, although Jinbe sorta took a shit on him.

So yeah, the WG gets benefits from having the Shichubkai. The Shichibukai also get benefits from the WG. They don't necessarily trust each other, and sometimes it bites the WG in the ass, but that doesn't mean that its a program that reaps no benefits for the WG.

seems like its rpetty slanted in the pirates favour though, they get no oversight and complete amnesty for anyone they want

Well, the assumption is that if a Pirate that becomes Shichibukai does try to fuck up the Government, they will get dunked and sent to Impel Down, like Crocodile. The WG is confident in its abilities to handle them. And on the other hand, the Pirates are confident that they can either trick or defeat the Government when the time comes. But until that time does come, they both reap the benefits of the arrangement.

i dont see how the WG is confident in it considering croc wasnt found out and when the admiral found out about Dofla his duty was to assist him in killing the inhabitants...



Maybe I am reading this wrong but I don't see how you can think they are an asset and a liability.



On July 03 2014 01:45 Forikorder wrote:
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On July 03 2014 00:40 Vanka wrote:
On July 03 2014 00:26 Forikorder wrote:
On July 03 2014 00:20 Vanka wrote:
On July 02 2014 23:24 Forikorder wrote:
the WG doesnt care about its citizens it only cares about the pirates, therefore the only problem that the Shichibukai have caused is blackbeard freeing people from impel down (which is also mainly Luffys fault anyway)

if they cared about there citizens then the Shichibukai would have been disbanded a long time ago but as long as they can keep 7 of the most powerful pirates not attacking marines then its worth it to lose some citizens (in there twisted minds)


You're missing the big fact that governments can only care about their citizens when the existence of the country isn't at stake. All the yonko are insanely strong, and it's pretty clear by marineford that if two yonko teamed up they'd wipe the floor with the World Government, especially if they didn't have any shichibukai.

Pirates are clearly the strongest faction in the One Piece world, if the WG had zero pirate support, what would they do if a yonko decided they wanted all of their territory? Where would they get more fighting power? Countries that are not in the WG? The revolutionary army?

The Marines and Shichibukai balance the world so that the WG isn't massively outpowered by the yonko. They need the Shichibukai so they don't lose their territory, that's why the institution exists, that's why they turn a blind eye to everything.


except the Shichibukai have done more to endanger the WG, blackbeard released dangerous prisoners, croc tried to get the ancient weapon Dofla has had Caeser been researching weapons of mass destruction


They did so all in secret. The deterrent to the yonko is that officially the shichibukai are on the same side, not that what the reality actually is.


im pretty sure Kaidou knows which side Dofla is really on, and it doesnt matter if there trying to gather WMDs in secret because those WMDs will still be used on the WG/its citizens

magma dude is all about absolute justice but he had no problem using one of whitebeards commanders hell use any means neccesary to accomplish his goals


That's true he will do whatever it takes to accomplish its goals but if it became well know that the Wg was having pirates join the Shichibukai and they were just disposing of them no one would join it. That's why when they attempted to kill Moria they were going to tell the world that he died during the war.
And if the WG doesn't know that crocodile is the one trying overthrow a country they don't do anything but you can see what happened the moment they found out.


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And rebeccas bottom is floating up a bit. But of course her legs are closed.

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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 00:05:02
July 03 2014 00:04 GMT
#16974
On July 03 2014 07:54 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 06:24 Shikyo wrote:
On July 03 2014 01:59 Incognoto wrote:
No, the set up was last chapter actually.

When does something actually happen? And now another flashback.

I'm pretty sure you wouldnt say the same thing if you werent reading 1 chapter each week (when not on break I mean)

That's possible but still, when there's multiple chapters in a row that make you feel "okay hope the next one's better" instead of "wow that's amazing!!!" it's a bit of a problem(comparison to ToG)

It says something I've recently looked forward to One Piece anime more than One Piece manga.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-03 00:23:15
July 03 2014 00:23 GMT
#16975
On July 03 2014 09:04 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2014 07:54 Yhamm wrote:
On July 03 2014 06:24 Shikyo wrote:
On July 03 2014 01:59 Incognoto wrote:
No, the set up was last chapter actually.

When does something actually happen? And now another flashback.

I'm pretty sure you wouldnt say the same thing if you werent reading 1 chapter each week (when not on break I mean)

That's possible but still, when there's multiple chapters in a row that make you feel "okay hope the next one's better" instead of "wow that's amazing!!!" it's a bit of a problem(comparison to ToG)

It says something I've recently looked forward to One Piece anime more than One Piece manga.

That actually doesn't really say anything.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
July 03 2014 01:14 GMT
#16976
I feel like it was Dofla's brother in the flashback.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
July 03 2014 02:01 GMT
#16977
Cool chapter. Doflamingo might be ruthless but he cares about his people! I think he was trying to bring that key to Law.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 03 2014 02:02 GMT
#16978
I wonder what white/blank city is.
Could be literally anything at this point. I guess it's just a rich city with complete white buildings, like made of white marble.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 03 2014 02:39 GMT
#16979
Maybe I am reading this wrong but I don't see how you can think they are an asset and a liability.

if they cared about there citizens it would be a liability

but they dont so there assets

I wonder what white/blank city is.
Could be literally anything at this point. I guess it's just a rich city with complete white buildings, like made of white marble.


i bet its like the rising sun whateverthefuckitscalled in hunterxhunter where the people living there dont exist (are blanks)

they may be slave labour for the tenryuubito or something
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
July 03 2014 04:05 GMT
#16980
On July 03 2014 11:02 Mataza wrote:
I wonder what white/blank city is.
Could be literally anything at this point. I guess it's just a rich city with complete white buildings, like made of white marble.

Maybe it's Mariejois? Doffy said Law reminded him of a younger version of himself. Maybe Law was a noble and wanted to blow everything the fuck up.
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