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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2555 Posts
June 15 2014 00:08 GMT
#16361
More like bring down Kaido's organization, make peace with big mam, have an honorable duel with shanks and then beat the shit out of Blackbeard.
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terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 02:59:58
June 15 2014 01:58 GMT
#16362
People are welcome to get mad at this if they want. But just want to remind those people that this is just speculation and we won't know for a while whether or no I am right or not.
But I see shank's crew getting defeated before Luffy and them meet.

I see blackbeard doing it.
Although the kid/hawkins/air pirate alliance might be targeting him too.
"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it." - Thomas Sowell
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 02:08:32
June 15 2014 02:06 GMT
#16363
On June 11 2014 19:10 GettingIt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 18:26 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Guess next chapter content?

Maybe . . . Pica is very strong and damage Zoro with some skills?


Yeah I really think Zoro is going to have a hard time with Pica. Hes had it too easy for too long. Its been a while since we've seen him bleed and and its about time.

True enough. Zoro and Usopp used to have a competition going (in my mind at least) for who could shed the most blood over the course of the manga. If Zoro stomps everything too hard he'll be in danger of falling behind Usopp. Speaking of which, I'm hoping Usopp has another battle this arc, potentially against some people who were freed from being toys and that are now chasing him for the reward, so that Usopp can beat them and further cement his status as 'God Usopp' in the minds of the remaining people he freed.

Usopp vs Buggy - the epic minion battle. Does that mean we're supposed to cheer for them more since it makes them closer to a SC player? Haha.
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
June 15 2014 03:51 GMT
#16364
On June 15 2014 09:08 Hyperbola wrote:
More like bring down Kaido's organization, make peace with big mam, have an honorable duel with shanks and then beat the shit out of Blackbeard.


Except mam is a power crazed sadistic psychopath, so peace doesn't seem very practical or likely.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 15 2014 03:52 GMT
#16365
Considering Big Mom apparently eats her crew when she gets hungry I don't think Luffy would care for that type of nakama treatment.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2014 04:33 GMT
#16366
On June 15 2014 05:34 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 04:47 Sentenal wrote:
I don't think Luffy has to defeat all 4 Youkou anymore than he has to beat all 7 Shichibukai.


Except he literally said that was his plan when talking to Law.

Except he doesn't actually have to defeat them, which is my point. Putting other primary objectives beyond getting One Piece on Luffy's journey to become Pirate King is silly. Luffy wants a lot of things. He wanted that man-tree on Thriller Bark to join the crew. Doesn't mean he has to get it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 15 2014 04:46 GMT
#16367
On June 15 2014 13:33 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 05:34 killa_robot wrote:
On June 15 2014 04:47 Sentenal wrote:
I don't think Luffy has to defeat all 4 Youkou anymore than he has to beat all 7 Shichibukai.


Except he literally said that was his plan when talking to Law.

Except he doesn't actually have to defeat them, which is my point. Putting other primary objectives beyond getting One Piece on Luffy's journey to become Pirate King is silly. Luffy wants a lot of things. He wanted that man-tree on Thriller Bark to join the crew. Doesn't mean he has to get it.


Defeating the Youkou is on his way to One Piece. Not to mention:
- He wants to meet Shanks/prove to him he's a great pirate. Defeating the other Youkou accomplishes that
- He's already pissed off both big mom and declared war on her, so he already plans to attack her
- He's pissed of Kaido now, so he'll have to confront him sooner or later
- Blackbeard is the last Youkou, so he probably will confront him at some time. I'd guess he'll stumble upon him more than anything though.

I'd be really surprise if his conflicts in the new world didn't revolve around these points.

Luffy hasn't had to do a lot of things that he's done anyway.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 15 2014 04:51 GMT
#16368
On June 15 2014 13:46 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 13:33 Sentenal wrote:
On June 15 2014 05:34 killa_robot wrote:
On June 15 2014 04:47 Sentenal wrote:
I don't think Luffy has to defeat all 4 Youkou anymore than he has to beat all 7 Shichibukai.


Except he literally said that was his plan when talking to Law.

Except he doesn't actually have to defeat them, which is my point. Putting other primary objectives beyond getting One Piece on Luffy's journey to become Pirate King is silly. Luffy wants a lot of things. He wanted that man-tree on Thriller Bark to join the crew. Doesn't mean he has to get it.


Defeating the Youkou is on his way to One Piece. Not to mention:
- He wants to meet Shanks/prove to him he's a great pirate. Defeating the other Youkou accomplishes that
- He's already pissed off both big mom and declared war on her, so he already plans to attack her
- He's pissed of Kaido now, so he'll have to confront him sooner or later
- Blackbeard is the last Youkou, so he probably will confront him at some time. I'd guess he'll stumble upon him more than anything though.

I'd be really surprise if his conflicts in the new world didn't revolve around these points.

Luffy hasn't had to do a lot of things that he's done anyway.

um he hasnt pissed of Kaido yet, but Kaido is the one there planning on attacking
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2014 04:54 GMT
#16369
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-15 05:02:53
June 15 2014 05:01 GMT
#16370
Luffy doesn't have to beat everyone to be Pirate King he just has to be the acknowledged as the strongest. We weren't around during Roger's era, but it seems like the Roger and Whitebeard pirates are friendly rivals and they may have not directly fought the Whitebeard pirates and could have just had much greater achievements like reaching Raftel. A similar thing could happen with the Straw Hat crew, finding One Piece and defeating all challengers does not require defeating everybody.

On this note I wonder if the Kid/Scratchman/Hawkins alliance or other Super Nova will make a name for themselves and become big rivals. The Sunny crew is currently being chased by Big Mom and there is no way they can beat here without the full Strawhat crew. They might be saved by Lola's vivre card if she really is Big Mom's daughter. Big Mom's crew leaves them alone for now, but is later on defeated by the Kid alliance.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 15 2014 11:23 GMT
#16371
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 15 2014 11:30 GMT
#16372
On June 15 2014 20:23 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.

The point is that one goal doesn't include all smaller goals.
I mean if Luffy beats Blackbeard, will he still need to beat every single yonkou? Or similarly, if Luffy beats up Akainu and the 3 marine admirals, does Luffy then need to beat up every single marine soldier?
I think that would be silly and unnecessary.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 15 2014 16:00 GMT
#16373
On June 15 2014 20:23 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.

the first person to raftel becomes king regardless of how many asses they kicked along the way
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 15 2014 18:11 GMT
#16374
On June 16 2014 01:00 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 20:23 killa_robot wrote:
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.

the first person to raftel becomes king regardless of how many asses they kicked along the way

I thought the ones with the most freedom to do whatever they wanted is the king.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
June 15 2014 19:26 GMT
#16375
On June 16 2014 01:00 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 20:23 killa_robot wrote:
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.

the first person to raftel becomes king regardless of how many asses they kicked along the way


Forikorder do you believe in what you wrote?

do you actually think Luffy will get to raftel without facing admirals, blackbeard, big mum and kaido? maybe he won't defeat them all.. i'm ok with that but he won't get there without facing admirals, shanks and BB
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 15 2014 20:05 GMT
#16376
On June 15 2014 20:23 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.

All thats required to be Pirate King is getting to Raftel and finding One Piece.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 15 2014 20:39 GMT
#16377
On June 16 2014 04:26 shell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2014 01:00 Forikorder wrote:
On June 15 2014 20:23 killa_robot wrote:
On June 15 2014 13:54 Sentenal wrote:
Yeah, he might come into conflict with them, and there is a good chance he will, but you understand what a primary objective is, right? Luffy does not have to defeat all 4 Youkou. It is not required for him to become Pirate King. So saying he has to defeat all the Youkou is like how people used to say that Luffy had to defeat all the Shichibukai.


Who said they're different goals? He wants to become the pirate king. Beating everyone else that is powerful enough to be a contender would make sense.

the first person to raftel becomes king regardless of how many asses they kicked along the way


Forikorder do you believe in what you wrote?

do you actually think Luffy will get to raftel without facing admirals, blackbeard, big mum and kaido? maybe he won't defeat them all.. i'm ok with that but he won't get there without facing admirals, shanks and BB

He just might(get there without facing much opposition).
Will he fight and beat a yonkou? Very likely.
Will he fight all of them and all admirals and all shichibukai? I hope OP doesn't become that predictable.

It's not an adventure when you know what happens.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
June 15 2014 21:02 GMT
#16378
It's a shounen. It's predictable as hell, which is why it can never become anything more than a good manga.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2555 Posts
June 15 2014 21:08 GMT
#16379
On June 16 2014 06:02 shark. wrote:
It's a shounen. It's predictable as hell, which is why it can never become anything more than a good manga.

Did you just call One Piece predictable?
Because that's really funny.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 15 2014 21:29 GMT
#16380
On June 16 2014 06:02 shark. wrote:
It's a shounen. It's predictable as hell, which is why it can never become anything more than a good manga.


One piece is already better than a good manga.
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