EPTOn May 06 2014 11:04 Forikorder wrote:
i think its a safe bet that something new can fit into an already existing category
i think its a safe bet that something new can fit into an already existing category
What?
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
What? | ||
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
The shockwave attack the lucci used and the FM Karate I believe both have the ability to attack logia users although I have no proof on the former. Jembei at least temporarily locked fists with akainu. http://www.mangapanda.com/103-48478-9/one-piece/chapter-578.html at least thats what it looks like to me. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
if we see someone do something supernatural like walking on air and we know its not a fruit it makes sense to say its haki instead of making an entirely new magic ability | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 06 2014 11:53 Forikorder wrote: if we see someone do something supernatural like walking on air and we know its not a fruit it makes sense to say its haki instead of making an entirely new magic ability Oh god, you aren't going to bust out that "Well Oda never said Rokushiki wasn't Haki" crap like you did last time, are you? Because this conversation sounds vaguely familiar to that stupid shit. And no, assuming all supernatural abilities=haki is just stupid. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6668 Posts
The only thing I can think of is that it was some sort of transition skill to get people used to characters having haki? If CP9 had haki they would have destroyed the SH crew at that point in time IMO. So all I can think of is it being a skill that eases the audience into this suddenly overpowered skill but it makes no sense to me from a literal plot stand point. These supposedly elite marine soldiers being trained in something that is lesser then haki. From a story point it makes sense as if at that point in time they met people capable of both haki's they would have gotten murdered. but from a logistical stand point it really doesn't make any sense that CP9 a super secret high tier organization couldn't use haki but instead were trained in something that straight up fails in comparison. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
Oh god, you aren't going to bust out that "Well Oda never said Rokushiki wasn't Haki" crap like you did last time, are you? Because this conversation sounds vaguely familiar to that stupid shit. And no, assuming all supernatural abilities=haki is just stupid. im just saying if someone starts doing physical impossible things and we know its not a fruit i dont see why its not safe to assume its the only other supernatural ability that everyone can get Shit tier armament haki shit tier that could complete negate some of Sanjis best kicks | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On May 06 2014 12:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote: It's interesting that Lucci vs Luffy has been brought just now. I had literally just in the the couple of days re watched that arc and I always wondered about CP9 I mean they are supposed to be elite WG assassins yet none of them know haki? I mean what the literal fuck? The WG trained them in these weird techniques that are so close to haki but not quite actually being haki. Tekkai being the best example(*cough* Shit tier armament haki *cough*) that comes to mind. For your elite guys why would you train them in what is essentially a lesser version of haki? The only thing I can think of is that it was some sort of transition skill to get people used to characters having haki? If CP9 had haki they would have destroyed the SH crew at that point in time IMO. So all I can think of is it being a skill that eases the audience into this suddenly overpowered skill but it makes no sense to me from a literal plot stand point. These supposedly elite marine soldiers being trained in something that is lesser then haki. From a story point it makes sense as if at that point in time they met people capable of both haki's they would have gotten murdered. but from a logistical stand point it really doesn't make any sense that CP9 a super secret high tier organization couldn't use haki but instead were trained in something that straight up fails in comparison. Haki is literally ambition, so its possible CP9 just didn't have any like that, thus leaving them to only focus on their physical abilities. Plus its not like you can only use one or the other. We have seen Vice Admirals use Rokushiki, and if you take stuff from Film Z into account, Haki and Rokushiki separately. So the short answer is that if Haki=ambition, then CP9 not having Haki makes perfect sense, thematically, from a storytelling point of view. Additionally, CP9 were assassins, and you don't exactly need Haki to murder people in their sleep. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On May 06 2014 12:57 Forikorder wrote: im just saying if someone starts doing physical impossible things and we know its not a fruit i dont see why its not safe to assume its the only other supernatural ability that everyone can get Sometimes, I read what you write, and desperately hope you're a troll. Then I remember you're not, so I just laugh. | ||
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
On May 06 2014 06:21 sumsaR wrote: Yup. Haki was used prior to it without the darkening. Oda must have realised he needed a visual indicator for it since it can't be expected that every character announces haki being used for the attack. I believe this too but I was watching this episode recently. http://www1.watchop.com/watch/one-piece-episode-525-english-subbed/ Starting at 1:41 And they comment on how it didn't turn black before. Although that is not in the manga so is probably a mistranslation. But I thought it would be worth it just to point out | ||
flamewheel
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shell
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Can't it be that they just kick so fast, that they are able to fly? There are people with arms with 3 sections, is it haki? OP World is a strange world, anything can happen, including people that kick so fast that they are able to fly! | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51727 Posts
On May 06 2014 14:28 flamewheel wrote: Where is my chapter it went that way. | ||
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goody153
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On May 06 2014 14:28 flamewheel wrote: Where is my chapter give us your chapter ! | ||
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Superouman
France2195 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On May 06 2014 13:04 Sentenal wrote: Its not safe to assume its Haki because we know exactly what Haki is now, and it isn't "anything supernatural that isn't a devil fruit". Haki is literally ambition, so its possible CP9 just didn't have any like that, thus leaving them to only focus on their physical abilities. Plus its not like you can only use one or the other. We have seen Vice Admirals use Rokushiki, and if you take stuff from Film Z into account, Haki and Rokushiki separately. So the short answer is that if Haki=ambition, then CP9 not having Haki makes perfect sense, thematically, from a storytelling point of view. Additionally, CP9 were assassins, and you don't exactly need Haki to murder people in their sleep. Who give you the idea that Haki literally means ambition? English doesn't have a good word to describe it, you can think of it as the will to dominate anything. And to do that, one must never doubt themselves in any actions they are doing. A real world example is Shaquille O'neal in basketball. | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Because I would be ok with that. Luffy has the rare gift of conqueror's shaq. He imbued his punch with armament shaq. | ||
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rei
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 06 2014 20:38 shell wrote: then how come Sanji could use it while in Namis weak body?Dude why does it have to be Haki? Can't it be that they just kick so fast, that they are able to fly? There are people with arms with 3 sections, is it haki? OP World is a strange world, anything can happen, including people that kick so fast that they are able to fly! | ||
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shell
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On May 06 2014 23:57 shell wrote: Because Nami has legs and can also kick air? so incredibly strong that she can jump on air? | ||
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