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Riku was well informed but even so he managed to be tricked so easily.
Even if he didn't know that DD could control your body like that, what would stop DD from asking another ransom the week after? it was so naive that he almost deserved it...
Things are going the way most people including myselft tought about this arc, DD is on tought and ruthless bastard and took the island for himselft. What is nice to know is what he did to become a Shichibukai, stealing the gold from his family..
Damn sick mofos
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Austria24417 Posts
He's so much like the joker in batman. Who coincidentally is my second favorite villain of all time
Flashbacks of the Dark Knight scene when the Joker burns the huge pile of money were had
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That colonel X on the cover looks so cool O_O
and i am not impressed/touched by this stupid riku king at all. Jesus christ.
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Damn Oda is so good at dem feels.
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I thought Riku collected the money in order to get close enough to DD to kill him with the dynamite? From the translation I read that was the impression, but hard to tell as mangapanda translations aren't always the best.. I was, at any rate, touched by his despair when he was forced to kill his own citizens who he loved so much.
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it was his backup plan to suicide bomb dofla (which is another stupidity from the character because he would have expected dofla to have some sort of DF ability).
This plot about riku king seems lazy and sloppy. wtf oda sama???
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Austria24417 Posts
You're talking about the king of a country which has been peaceful for 800 years, no conflicts like this happening. I think you're the one who got a bit sloppy evaluating the character. Did you honestly expect the king of such a country to have a cold blooded plan to kill Doflamingo? Or to know exactly how to react to something like this? Doflamingo showed up in his room out of nowhere. Riku said he'd been worried about Doflamingo but that doesn't have to mean he was worried that Doflamingo would try to overtake his country the way he did.
If anything being fooled by someone who seems like exactly what he isn't - a cold blooded, well prepared and smart madman - does his character justice.
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On November 06 2013 22:20 DarkLordOlli wrote: You're talking about the king of a country which has been peaceful for 800 years, no conflicts like this happening. I think you're the one who got a bit sloppy evaluating the character. Did you honestly expect the king of such a country to have a cold blooded plan to kill Doflamingo? Or to know exactly how to react to something like this? If anything being fooled by someone who seems like exactly that - a cold blooded, well prepared and smart madman - does his character justice.
He is a king, it doesnt matter if it was 8000years without war, as a king you need to prepare for all kind of crisis/emergency issue related to national security. The people of the country can be so unrealistically innocent/pure or whatever but as a king you have no excuse for that.
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Austria24417 Posts
On November 06 2013 22:24 BurningSera wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2013 22:20 DarkLordOlli wrote: You're talking about the king of a country which has been peaceful for 800 years, no conflicts like this happening. I think you're the one who got a bit sloppy evaluating the character. Did you honestly expect the king of such a country to have a cold blooded plan to kill Doflamingo? Or to know exactly how to react to something like this? If anything being fooled by someone who seems like exactly that - a cold blooded, well prepared and smart madman - does his character justice. He is a king, it doesnt matter if it was 8000years without war, as a king you need to prepare for all kind of crisis/emergency issue related to national security. The people of the country can be so unrealistically innocent/pure or whatever but as a king you have no excuse for that.
So basically you're saying the king screwed up, not Oda. I'll walk you through it again.
Doflamingo shows up. Says he will take over the country - or hey, the king can buy it for 10 million! Says he has a very limited amount of time.
And you expect him to have a plan ready to counteract this otherwise Oda is being lazy and sloppy.
Dressrosa as it used to be is described to be the purest, most innocent country you will ever see in the OP universe. What exactly makes you think that its king who's never seen a war and possibly never faced anything like this would know how to react properly? He was under heavy pressure, had little time to react (he has to decide on the spot or they'll never gather the money) and was caught completely off guard by Doflamingo's ability.
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Especially because I get the feeling that BurningSera bases his "expectations" off of some kind of sample size of kings shown throughout the story but I only remember Cobra who got his people fooled by crocodile EXACTLY like Riku did, Wapol who abandoned his own kingdom on first sight of danger lol and last but not least we had King Neptun whose country was overtaken by a coup d'etat by his own fish men.
Suddenly the king of the most pacifistic kingdom we've seen so far should have a plan ready to outsmart the most powerful & intelligent villain (who also has Tenryuubito & CP0 backing) yet.
@Darklord, the amount was 10 Billion Berry^^, 10 Million would be less than Buggy's old East Blue Bounty
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We do not know which information King Riku had in the flashback about DD. The entire flashback seems a bit incomplete.
At the least Riku must have thought that he has no chance resisting DD by force. Guess DD had some reputation back then too. On the other hand if a stranger sits in your window asking for everything you own, the first thing I'd do would be to kick him out the window.
But anyway, it seems Oda must be wrong once again.
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To me it looked like the King was a huge pacifist, so his behavior is not a big surprise.
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he probably was at least trying to buy enough time to alert the WG and get assistnace
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Hmm he made the mistake of trusting a terrorist. I'm surprised that Doflamingo can control people from such a long range. That fruit is truly overpowered. And this was 10 years ago too, meaning that his control over his fruit has gotten even better. I'm still wondering about a method to counteract this effect. If it was possible to control anybody then Doflamingo could take out anyone. I'm thinking the major weakness of this ability is that he has to capture you unaware. So if you know that he's about to take control of you, you can dodge out of the way or block the strings. Maybe if you're really strong you can resist or even break free. We saw in the war that Doflamingo was strong enough to stop Jozu in his tracks and control Buffalo. I'm thinking Jozu has a lot more physical strength than Buffalo so Doflamingo wouldn't necessarily be able to control him so much as he could simply lock him down. And probably if he tried to pull the same shit on Whitebeard and somehow landed the strings then Whitebeard would just grab them, pull Doffy in and give him a proper smack, lol.
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On November 06 2013 23:41 Mataza wrote: We do not know which information King Riku had in the flashback about DD. The entire flashback seems a bit incomplete.
At the least Riku must have thought that he has no chance resisting DD by force. Guess DD had some reputation back then too. On the other hand if a stranger sits in your window asking for everything you own, the first thing I'd do would be to kick him out the window.
But anyway, it seems Oda must be wrong once again.
One does not simply kick Doflamingo out the window. King Riku did the only thing any logical person would do. That was to give into demands and hope you don't get back stabbed, or fight a battle that you know 100% you will lose.
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Are we missing the fact that Riku knows DD is a Tenryūbito and actual rightful owner of the country? And that if he fights DD an entire nation would have become outlaws even if he succeeded?
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yeah you guys seem to be forgetting the fact that riku knows who donquixote is. the moment doflamingo says his name riku knows no one is gonna save his ass but him
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On November 07 2013 04:12 playnice wrote: Are we missing the fact that Riku knows DD is a Tenryūbito and actual rightful owner of the country? And that if he fights DD an entire nation would have become outlaws even if he succeeded? DD said that Law was right to say he "used" to be one so his family are no longer classed as such I would imagine. Interesting to find out how DD became a warlord though. Stealing all the Tenryubito's money ships is a pretty ballsy move.
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On November 07 2013 04:12 playnice wrote: Are we missing the fact that Riku knows DD is a Tenryūbito and actual rightful owner of the country? And that if he fights DD an entire nation would have become outlaws even if he succeeded? Owner is a tricky word when it comes to countries. Is an usurped king's descendents really the rightful owners of a country 800 years later? They may have a claim, but owners? Not if you go by how it works in the real world.
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In the world of One Piece he is the "owner" because he's part of the Tenryuubito so if he wants to claim this kingdom as his nobody is going to (dare) give a fuck, especially if it used to belong to his family. Seems also that Dress Rosa doesn't belong to any yonkour turf because in theory If it belonged to Whitebeard territory 10 years I imagine that his plan wouldn't have gone as smooth. I could be Kaidou territory and they were already working together back then but correct me if I'm wrong but Smiles have only been around recently, since he announced "age of smiley" pretimeskip.
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