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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
November 06 2013 12:15 GMT
#11041
Riku was well informed but even so he managed to be tricked so easily.

Even if he didn't know that DD could control your body like that, what would stop DD from asking another ransom the week after? it was so naive that he almost deserved it...

Things are going the way most people including myselft tought about this arc, DD is on tought and ruthless bastard and took the island for himselft. What is nice to know is what he did to become a Shichibukai, stealing the gold from his family..

Damn sick mofos
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 12:20:13
November 06 2013 12:19 GMT
#11042
He's so much like the joker in batman. Who coincidentally is my second favorite villain of all time

Flashbacks of the Dark Knight scene when the Joker burns the huge pile of money were had
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 06 2013 12:40 GMT
#11043
That colonel X on the cover looks so cool O_O

and i am not impressed/touched by this stupid riku king at all. Jesus christ.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
November 06 2013 12:49 GMT
#11044
Damn Oda is so good at dem feels.
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
November 06 2013 13:10 GMT
#11045
I thought Riku collected the money in order to get close enough to DD to kill him with the dynamite? From the translation I read that was the impression, but hard to tell as mangapanda translations aren't always the best.. I was, at any rate, touched by his despair when he was forced to kill his own citizens who he loved so much.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 13:15:24
November 06 2013 13:15 GMT
#11046
it was his backup plan to suicide bomb dofla (which is another stupidity from the character because he would have expected dofla to have some sort of DF ability).

This plot about riku king seems lazy and sloppy. wtf oda sama???
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 13:24:21
November 06 2013 13:20 GMT
#11047
You're talking about the king of a country which has been peaceful for 800 years, no conflicts like this happening. I think you're the one who got a bit sloppy evaluating the character. Did you honestly expect the king of such a country to have a cold blooded plan to kill Doflamingo? Or to know exactly how to react to something like this? Doflamingo showed up in his room out of nowhere. Riku said he'd been worried about Doflamingo but that doesn't have to mean he was worried that Doflamingo would try to overtake his country the way he did.

If anything being fooled by someone who seems like exactly what he isn't - a cold blooded, well prepared and smart madman - does his character justice.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 06 2013 13:24 GMT
#11048
On November 06 2013 22:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
You're talking about the king of a country which has been peaceful for 800 years, no conflicts like this happening. I think you're the one who got a bit sloppy evaluating the character. Did you honestly expect the king of such a country to have a cold blooded plan to kill Doflamingo? Or to know exactly how to react to something like this? If anything being fooled by someone who seems like exactly that - a cold blooded, well prepared and smart madman - does his character justice.


He is a king, it doesnt matter if it was 8000years without war, as a king you need to prepare for all kind of crisis/emergency issue related to national security. The people of the country can be so unrealistically innocent/pure or whatever but as a king you have no excuse for that.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 13:34:18
November 06 2013 13:25 GMT
#11049
On November 06 2013 22:24 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2013 22:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
You're talking about the king of a country which has been peaceful for 800 years, no conflicts like this happening. I think you're the one who got a bit sloppy evaluating the character. Did you honestly expect the king of such a country to have a cold blooded plan to kill Doflamingo? Or to know exactly how to react to something like this? If anything being fooled by someone who seems like exactly that - a cold blooded, well prepared and smart madman - does his character justice.


He is a king, it doesnt matter if it was 8000years without war, as a king you need to prepare for all kind of crisis/emergency issue related to national security. The people of the country can be so unrealistically innocent/pure or whatever but as a king you have no excuse for that.


So basically you're saying the king screwed up, not Oda. I'll walk you through it again.

Doflamingo shows up.
Says he will take over the country - or hey, the king can buy it for 10 million!
Says he has a very limited amount of time.

And you expect him to have a plan ready to counteract this otherwise Oda is being lazy and sloppy.

Dressrosa as it used to be is described to be the purest, most innocent country you will ever see in the OP universe. What exactly makes you think that its king who's never seen a war and possibly never faced anything like this would know how to react properly? He was under heavy pressure, had little time to react (he has to decide on the spot or they'll never gather the money) and was caught completely off guard by Doflamingo's ability.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 14:15:27
November 06 2013 14:14 GMT
#11050
Especially because I get the feeling that BurningSera bases his "expectations" off of some kind of sample size of kings shown throughout the story but I only remember Cobra who got his people fooled by crocodile EXACTLY like Riku did, Wapol who abandoned his own kingdom on first sight of danger lol and last but not least we had King Neptun whose country was overtaken by a coup d'etat by his own fish men.

Suddenly the king of the most pacifistic kingdom we've seen so far should have a plan ready to outsmart the most powerful & intelligent villain (who also has Tenryuubito & CP0 backing) yet.

@Darklord, the amount was 10 Billion Berry^^, 10 Million would be less than Buggy's old East Blue Bounty
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 06 2013 14:41 GMT
#11051
We do not know which information King Riku had in the flashback about DD. The entire flashback seems a bit incomplete.

At the least Riku must have thought that he has no chance resisting DD by force. Guess DD had some reputation back then too.
On the other hand if a stranger sits in your window asking for everything you own, the first thing I'd do would be to kick him out the window.

But anyway, it seems Oda must be wrong once again.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
November 06 2013 14:44 GMT
#11052
To me it looked like the King was a huge pacifist, so his behavior is not a big surprise.
Revolutionist fan
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
November 06 2013 17:22 GMT
#11053
he probably was at least trying to buy enough time to alert the WG and get assistnace
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2539 Posts
November 06 2013 18:55 GMT
#11054
Hmm he made the mistake of trusting a terrorist. I'm surprised that Doflamingo can control people from such a long range. That fruit is truly overpowered. And this was 10 years ago too, meaning that his control over his fruit has gotten even better. I'm still wondering about a method to counteract this effect. If it was possible to control anybody then Doflamingo could take out anyone.
I'm thinking the major weakness of this ability is that he has to capture you unaware. So if you know that he's about to take control of you, you can dodge out of the way or block the strings. Maybe if you're really strong you can resist or even break free. We saw in the war that Doflamingo was strong enough to stop Jozu in his tracks and control Buffalo. I'm thinking Jozu has a lot more physical strength than Buffalo so Doflamingo wouldn't necessarily be able to control him so much as he could simply lock him down. And probably if he tried to pull the same shit on Whitebeard and somehow landed the strings then Whitebeard would just grab them, pull Doffy in and give him a proper smack, lol.
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GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
November 06 2013 19:04 GMT
#11055
On November 06 2013 23:41 Mataza wrote:
We do not know which information King Riku had in the flashback about DD. The entire flashback seems a bit incomplete.

At the least Riku must have thought that he has no chance resisting DD by force. Guess DD had some reputation back then too.
On the other hand if a stranger sits in your window asking for everything you own, the first thing I'd do would be to kick him out the window.

But anyway, it seems Oda must be wrong once again.


One does not simply kick Doflamingo out the window. King Riku did the only thing any logical person would do. That was to give into demands and hope you don't get back stabbed, or fight a battle that you know 100% you will lose.
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia299 Posts
November 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#11056
Are we missing the fact that Riku knows DD is a Tenryūbito and actual rightful owner of the country? And that if he fights DD an entire nation would have become outlaws even if he succeeded?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8663 Posts
November 06 2013 19:14 GMT
#11057
yeah you guys seem to be forgetting the fact that riku knows who donquixote is. the moment doflamingo says his name riku knows no one is gonna save his ass but him
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
November 06 2013 19:15 GMT
#11058
On November 07 2013 04:12 playnice wrote:
Are we missing the fact that Riku knows DD is a Tenryūbito and actual rightful owner of the country? And that if he fights DD an entire nation would have become outlaws even if he succeeded?

DD said that Law was right to say he "used" to be one so his family are no longer classed as such I would imagine. Interesting to find out how DD became a warlord though. Stealing all the Tenryubito's money ships is a pretty ballsy move.
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 19:19:49
November 06 2013 19:16 GMT
#11059
On November 07 2013 04:12 playnice wrote:
Are we missing the fact that Riku knows DD is a Tenryūbito and actual rightful owner of the country? And that if he fights DD an entire nation would have become outlaws even if he succeeded?

Owner is a tricky word when it comes to countries. Is an usurped king's descendents really the rightful owners of a country 800 years later? They may have a claim, but owners? Not if you go by how it works in the real world.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
November 06 2013 19:31 GMT
#11060
In the world of One Piece he is the "owner" because he's part of the Tenryuubito so if he wants to claim this kingdom as his nobody is going to (dare) give a fuck, especially if it used to belong to his family. Seems also that Dress Rosa doesn't belong to any yonkour turf because in theory If it belonged to Whitebeard territory 10 years I imagine that his plan wouldn't have gone as smooth. I could be Kaidou territory and they were already working together back then but correct me if I'm wrong but Smiles have only been around recently, since he announced "age of smiley" pretimeskip.
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