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On March 05 2013 11:09 Azuzu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 09:10 Sentenal wrote:On March 05 2013 09:01 Azuzu wrote:
I feel like if they were really powerful they would have at least introduced some of them. Normally once a character is introduced, they have some effect on the story. It just seems like his crew, even if they're from impel down, is mostly fodder.
There's also the fact that the 80-150m bounty range is presumably mostly captains. How many captains would really want to follow Buggy? Apparently, a lot of them. How many of the escaped Impel Down prisoners didn't flock to Buggy? Pretty much just the Newkamas and people from level 6. Buggy's crew is huge, encompassing people from almost every level of Impel Down. They haven't had an introduction because they haven't been important to the story. Aside from introducing them, he hasn't even drawn any unique characters. Typically Oda at least does that. I guess what I'm saying is that my prediction is that buggy's impel down crew will never be anything other than nameless supporting characters and therefore insignificant, regardless of their strength or lack thereof (though I also believe very few of his crew are 100m+). I know the impel down arc hyped the power level of the prisoners, but I don't think there's been any other evidence at all his crew will be a formidable force. My guess is that Buggy is selected not because of his crew at all. It's all about his legacy, and his assumed strength based on that legacy.
Its his legacy combined with his crew. There is literally no argument against his crew being strong that actually holds water. They might not be able to match a Yonkou Crew. They might not be a match for the Strawhats, But there is no denying a crew full of people with bounties from 50m to 150m is a force to be reckoned with. Just look at what you are actually saying. You are saying they are weak because Oda hasn't drawn any unique characters, and because "only one arc said they were really strong".
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I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence.
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Is it just the prisoners or did some of the Newkamas join from floor 5.5 as well?
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On March 05 2013 11:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Is it just the prisoners or did some of the Newkamas join from floor 5.5 as well?
The Newkamas went with Ivankov, I think.
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On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence.
dude reread the arc every prisoner but the newkamas got like mass hypnotized or something and saw Buggy as there god
you dont have to accomplis anything significant to get a 150m bounty
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On March 05 2013 11:58 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence. dude reread the arc every prisoner but the newkamas got like mass hypnotized or something and saw Buggy as there god you dont have to accomplis anything significant to get a 150m bounty
Yes you do, 150m is a very big amount. Each of the Super Novas got their initial status/fame as a Super Nova due to having a bounty of over 100m.
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On March 05 2013 12:05 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 11:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence. dude reread the arc every prisoner but the newkamas got like mass hypnotized or something and saw Buggy as there god you dont have to accomplis anything significant to get a 150m bounty Yes you do, 150m is a very big amount. Each of the Super Novas got their initial status/fame as a Super Nova due to having a bounty of over 100m.
they got faim because they were new in the new world having 400 million+ is considered impressive so having 150 million bounty puts you on the lower end of the power spectrum
someone getting 100 mill bouinty in the first half is amazing, in the new world its nothing special
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On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence.
Actually, the fact where they were held in Impel Down is evidence of their power. The floors below floor 5 weren't empty and those guys incarcerated that deep are on par with Daz Bones, Sir Crocodile and that ex-warden guy Blackbeard picked up there. The fact that Buggy was held in Floor 2 or Floor 1 is evidence that the Impel Down system does put you deeper the more dangerous you are.
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On March 05 2013 12:06 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 12:05 Sentenal wrote:On March 05 2013 11:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence. dude reread the arc every prisoner but the newkamas got like mass hypnotized or something and saw Buggy as there god you dont have to accomplis anything significant to get a 150m bounty Yes you do, 150m is a very big amount. Each of the Super Novas got their initial status/fame as a Super Nova due to having a bounty of over 100m. they got faim because they were new in the new world having 400 million+ is considered impressive so having 150 million bounty puts you on the lower end of the power spectrum someone getting 100 mill bouinty in the first half is amazing, in the new world its nothing special
Who says all the guys in Impel Down on Level 5 are from the New World?
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On March 05 2013 12:07 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence. Actually, the fact where they were held in Impel Down is evidence of their power. The floors below floor 5 weren't empty and those guys incarcerated that deep are on par with Daz Bones, Sir Crocodile and that ex-warden guy Blackbeard picked up there. The fact that Buggy was held in Floor 2 or Floor 1 is evidence that the Impel Down system does put you deeper the more dangerous you are.
also the fact that they specifically said the tougher you are the deeper you go is evidence the impel down system puts you deeper the more dangerous you are 
Who says all the guys in Impel Down on Level 5 are from the New World?
because there pirates, if there tough enough to be in level 5 theyd go to the new world
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On March 05 2013 12:09 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 12:06 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 12:05 Sentenal wrote:On March 05 2013 11:58 Forikorder wrote:On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence. dude reread the arc every prisoner but the newkamas got like mass hypnotized or something and saw Buggy as there god you dont have to accomplis anything significant to get a 150m bounty Yes you do, 150m is a very big amount. Each of the Super Novas got their initial status/fame as a Super Nova due to having a bounty of over 100m. they got faim because they were new in the new world having 400 million+ is considered impressive so having 150 million bounty puts you on the lower end of the power spectrum someone getting 100 mill bouinty in the first half is amazing, in the new world its nothing special Who says all the guys in Impel Down on Level 5 are from the New World?
Oda didn't say they WEREN'T from the New World, so they must be from there.
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On March 05 2013 12:11 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 12:07 Mataza wrote:On March 05 2013 11:50 Azuzu wrote:
I'm not saying that a crew full of 100Ms wouldn't be a big force. What I'm saying is that there's no evidence those are the pirates in Buggy's new crew and not just the weaklings from the first few floors. I mean, wouldn't it be pretty weird at this point if Oda suddenly draws in a 150M never before seen pirate into his crew? I just can't see it happening. I think it would also be pretty weird if a bunch of unnamed pirates accomplished something significant. Hence my conclusion.
All I'm saying is that without naming or drawing a single identifiable pirate, it's really hard to track who is in his crew and how strong they are at the moment. I know it's not the most popular theory (because hey, Buggy being in charge of an army is hilarious) and I was pointing out the info from the impel down arc to acknowledge that there is significant counter evidence. Actually, the fact where they were held in Impel Down is evidence of their power. The floors below floor 5 weren't empty and those guys incarcerated that deep are on par with Daz Bones, Sir Crocodile and that ex-warden guy Blackbeard picked up there. The fact that Buggy was held in Floor 2 or Floor 1 is evidence that the Impel Down system does put you deeper the more dangerous you are. also the fact that they specifically said the tougher you are the deeper you go is evidence the impel down system puts you deeper the more dangerous you are because there pirates, if there tough enough to be in level 5 theyd go to the new world
I almost forgot who I was responding to, for a second.
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Does it really matter if th4ey're from the new world?
The point is if the guys in level 5 and lower are dangerous and worth 80+ million. Crocodile is exactly 80m worth and he was down there.
Mind you, Crocodile's bounty froze when he became a Shichibukai and he was able to wreak havoc over the landscape with sand storms. Not to mention that he almost conquered a country.
Can people that are similar in strength to that be in Buggies crew? Yes, because Crocodile was obviously not alone in impel down.
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You know whats always bothered me about Shanks, he has one arm right, with so many cyborgs in OP why doesn't he just get a arm made for him? Never quite understood that.
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Not the fact that a tiny-ass sea king ate the arm of one of the strongest guys in the world?
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Well thats kinda obvious, I think Oda stated somewhere sometime that he regretted Shanks losing his arm. Maybe the line he said " I bet it on the new age" or whatever he says is a reason why he won't try and get a new arm.
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On March 06 2013 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not the fact that a tiny-ass sea king ate the arm of one of the strongest guys in the world?
Well maybe Shanks thought that since he had a spare, it wouldn't be that bad to lose an arm.
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On March 05 2013 09:01 Azuzu wrote:
I feel like if they were really powerful they would have at least introduced some of them. Normally once a character is introduced, they have some effect on the story. It just seems like his crew, even if they're from impel down, is mostly fodder.
There's also the fact that the 80-150m bounty range is presumably mostly captains. How many captains would really want to follow Buggy?
I think we should get some facts straight about the potential power level of Buggy's crew.
First of all it is quite possible, if not certain, that some of the prisoners are from The New World. Shiki and Ace were both sent to Impel Down. Secondly there is no evidence to support that Level 5 should only hold prisoners with a bounty between 80m to 150m. At the time Luffy was sent to Level 5 his bounty was at 300m.
Now let's assume that Impel Down does indeed hold prisoners from The New World, there is no reason to assume that people with a 150m bounty would be a captain. Buggy could potentially have a several subordinates with power levels equal to or greater than that of Zoro and Sanji during Marineford Arc.
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On March 06 2013 06:49 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 06:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Not the fact that a tiny-ass sea king ate the arm of one of the strongest guys in the world? Well maybe Shanks thought that since he had a spare, it wouldn't be that bad to lose an arm.
I think he was trying to give other pirates a shot at being able to go toe to toe with him. Shanks is just a really nice guy thats all 
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On March 06 2013 07:16 Prog455 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2013 09:01 Azuzu wrote:
I feel like if they were really powerful they would have at least introduced some of them. Normally once a character is introduced, they have some effect on the story. It just seems like his crew, even if they're from impel down, is mostly fodder.
There's also the fact that the 80-150m bounty range is presumably mostly captains. How many captains would really want to follow Buggy? I think we should get some facts straight about the potential power level of Buggy's crew. First of all it is quite possible, if not certain, that some of the prisoners are from The New World. Shiki and Ace were both sent to Impel Down. Secondly there is no evidence to support that Level 5 should only hold prisoners with a bounty between 80m to 150m. At the time Luffy was sent to Level 5 his bounty was at 300m. Now let's assume that Impel Down does indeed hold prisoners from The New World, there is no reason to assume that people with a 150m bounty would be a captain. Buggy could potentially have a several subordinates with power levels equal to or greater than that of Zoro and Sanji during Marineford Arc.
Not to mention that some of the worst pirates were locked in there and freed who then ended up joining Blackbeards crew.
That fact alone can help testify to the fact that pirates within Impel Down not only can be from the New World but also be insanely strong.
Oh btw, you don't see many Pirate crews with heaps of crew in the range of 80-150m bounties unless they're either Yonkou Crew or some insane pirate crew. Hell, I think only two of the Supernova crews had a member who wasn't a captain part of the Supernovas pre-timeskip arc.
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