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On February 28 2013 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:The quality mangastream scanlation cleared things up. The journalist Abusa or whatever is most likely Absalom for 2 reasons. 1. He's invisible 2. His boat here looks very similar to the boat fleeing the scene here when Kidd talks about the reporter.
dude it's exactly the _same_ i think you nailed it
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On February 28 2013 11:16 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:The quality mangastream scanlation cleared things up. The journalist Abusa or whatever is most likely Absalom for 2 reasons. 1. He's invisible 2. His boat here looks very similar to the boat fleeing the scene here when Kidd talks about the reporter. dude it's exactly the _same_ i think you nailed it wow o_o
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On February 28 2013 11:16 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 03:08 Hyperbola wrote:The quality mangastream scanlation cleared things up. The journalist Abusa or whatever is most likely Absalom for 2 reasons. 1. He's invisible 2. His boat here looks very similar to the boat fleeing the scene here when Kidd talks about the reporter. dude it's exactly the _same_ i think you nailed it omg
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On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter
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On February 28 2013 14:02 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter
And maybe Ace's fruit was immediately put onto a random fruit when he died and it took them 2yrs to find it. We don't know the details yet of how, where, and when a fruit appears other than the user needing to die.
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On February 28 2013 14:15 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 14:02 Scaramanga wrote:On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter And maybe Ace's fruit was immediately put onto a random fruit when he died and it took them 2yrs to find it. We don't know the details yet of how, where, and when a fruit appears other than the user needing to die. it would be more "the ability cant be owned by someone" then the "user needing to die" otherwise thered be a quake quake fruit out there somewhere
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On February 28 2013 14:39 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 14:15 Zooper31 wrote:On February 28 2013 14:02 Scaramanga wrote:On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter And maybe Ace's fruit was immediately put onto a random fruit when he died and it took them 2yrs to find it. We don't know the details yet of how, where, and when a fruit appears other than the user needing to die. it would be more "the ability cant be owned by someone" then the "user needing to die" otherwise thered be a quake quake fruit out there somewhere
Well the user died and then he took the powers from him. But then again that's Blackbeard, you can't use him as an example of how DF's work. We have no clue what happened under that curtain and we won't probably until near the end of the series.
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On February 28 2013 14:40 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 14:39 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 14:15 Zooper31 wrote:On February 28 2013 14:02 Scaramanga wrote:On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter And maybe Ace's fruit was immediately put onto a random fruit when he died and it took them 2yrs to find it. We don't know the details yet of how, where, and when a fruit appears other than the user needing to die. it would be more "the ability cant be owned by someone" then the "user needing to die" otherwise thered be a quake quake fruit out there somewhere Well the user died and then he took the powers from him. But then again that's Blackbeard, you can't use him as an example of how DF's work. We have no clue what happened under that curtain and we won't probably until near the end of the series. im willing to bet when an user dies the "devil" leaves the body and normally you cant see the "devil" leave but somehow blackbeard managed to see it and used his gravity powers to suck it in
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Great episode that sets up a very cool arc and leaves so much to be speculated.
First, I doubt that Coby will ever get a devil fruit. He seems like the new generation's version of Garp... one of the truly righteous rather than overzealous marines. He'll keep getting stronger and stronger as he rises through the ranks without ever using cheap power boosts like a devil's fruits.
It seems weird to me that Doflamingo thinks Luffy will be so attached to the mera mera fruit. I'd throw my vote behind Dofy's plan falling apart, only to be resurrected by Luffy wanting food and falling right into the plan anyways. Not sure why Dofly seems so convinced Luffy will care about the fruit.
My bold prediction for the mera mera fruit: Kanjurou (Kinemon's friend) gets it and joins the Straw Hats. Momonosuke and Kinemon have each other and their old life to get back to so they seem like they're only temporary allies (like Vivi), but Kanjurou was able/willing to sacrifice himself for those two. He seems to almost undoubtedly be a good guy with some quirks and nothing to really keep him where he is.
It feels a little like when Luffy's crew went to Water 7 and you knew they would get a shipwright. For quite awhile I thought Paulie would join the Strawhats. He had unique attacks and his own personality quirks, but was a good guy deep down and seemed like the obvious choice. It took quite awhile before Franky showed himself as a shipwright that could join the crew. I'm thinking Oda is dangling Momo/Kinemon out in front of us just like Paulie to keep us off the scent of Kanjurou. Meanwhile, a samurai isn't very unique since the Straw Hats already have Zoro. So that samurai better have some really odd talents. The mera mera fruit would certainly make him different.
I know it's a long-shot, but I'm going with it for now.
As for the new Shichibukai, I'm glad they didn't dangle Buggy any longer as the big reveal. It was pretty well guessed that he was one of the new Shichibukai and would be so anti-climactic if they kept pushing that one (I'm looking at you Kubo). Instead, we get this other mystery Shichibukai and I have to believe we know him, otherwise why hide him so much? Oda isn't shy about naming guys we won't meet for a long time. So I'm looking at past opponents or perhaps someone from Whitebeard's crew.
Gin? He did get the jump on Chef Zef. He easily smashed Pearl and pretty convincingly beat Sanji (but he was already injured). He also beat Kreig's poison on willpower alone. He also said he'd follow his own convictions and meet the Straw Hats on the Grand Line someday. He's a maybe. Another possibility would be Enel. But then he'd have to come back down to Earth, make a name for himself, and still decide to ally with the marines. That doesn't sound right to me. Perhaps Rob Lucci. We know they're out there on their own and an alliance with the marines wouldn't be odd for them, but they're still pretty much underground as far as we know so they wouldn't have the worldwide renown to become a Shichibukai.
Would Marco have taken the spot or would his grudge against the world government be too much? I'm thinking he's too independent along with the other main Whitebeard lieutenants so probably not them. But what about Squard? He's got to be a pariah within Whitebeard's old crew. He's extra famous as the guy who could wound Whitebeard and also fought against Roger. I'd also see him as someone capable of hiding his anger towards the marines in order to achieve a goal and the title of Shichibukai may be needed to achieve his new goals. So I'll go with either Gin or Squard.
As for Fujitora. Tora is tiger according to my terrible Japanese skills. Fuji can be a lot of things (peerless, emergency, incurability, wisteria). So "Peerless Tiger" or "Wisteria Tiger". I'm thinking it's another name for Bastille http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Bastille He kind of has that Tiger-ish look and we don't know much about him. I don't think he's ever been defeated and could be really powerful. That still leaves room for Onigumo as another one of the new admirals (my first pick for new admiral).
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Just realized that the number of shown characters on dressrosa exactly equals strawhats + law. Can't wait for an all out fight!
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I don't think a logia would ever fit in Strawhat's Crew, they are too cheap and OP. Just sayin'
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oops double post
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It feels a little like when Luffy's crew went to Water 7 and you knew they would get a shipwright. For quite awhile I thought Paulie would join the Strawhats. He had unique attacks and his own personality quirks, but was a good guy deep down and seemed like the obvious choice. It took quite awhile before Franky showed himself as a shipwright that could join the crew. I'm thinking Oda is dangling Momo/Kinemon out in front of us just like Paulie to keep us off the scent of Kanjurou. Meanwhile, a samurai isn't very unique since the Straw Hats already have Zoro. So that samurai better have some really odd talents. The mera mera fruit would certainly make him different.
your forgetting how well Kinemon fits in the group though
hes completes the Pervert trie (Sanji Brook Kinemon) fulfills the sword trio (Brook one sword, cold style Kinemon 2 sword fire style Zoro 3 sword badass style)
there seems to be a trio theme sort of with the monster trio (Luffy Zoro Sanji) and the weakling trio (Nami Usopp Chopper)
he jsut fits in with the strawhats too well and follows there pace to well to be fleeting IMO
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On February 28 2013 14:44 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 14:40 Zooper31 wrote:On February 28 2013 14:39 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 14:15 Zooper31 wrote:On February 28 2013 14:02 Scaramanga wrote:On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter And maybe Ace's fruit was immediately put onto a random fruit when he died and it took them 2yrs to find it. We don't know the details yet of how, where, and when a fruit appears other than the user needing to die. it would be more "the ability cant be owned by someone" then the "user needing to die" otherwise thered be a quake quake fruit out there somewhere Well the user died and then he took the powers from him. But then again that's Blackbeard, you can't use him as an example of how DF's work. We have no clue what happened under that curtain and we won't probably until near the end of the series. im willing to bet when an user dies the "devil" leaves the body and normally you cant see the "devil" leave but somehow blackbeard managed to see it and used his gravity powers to suck it in
That definitely sounds like a possibility and would kinda make sense. Who knows where Oda will take it though.
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On February 28 2013 15:11 RenSC2 wrote: As for the new Shichibukai, I'm glad they didn't dangle Buggy any longer as the big reveal. It was pretty well guessed that he was one of the new Shichibukai and would be so anti-climactic if they kept pushing that one (I'm looking at you Kubo). Instead, we get this other mystery Shichibukai and I have to believe we know him, otherwise why hide him so much? Oda isn't shy about naming guys we won't meet for a long time. So I'm looking at past opponents or perhaps someone from Whitebeard's crew.
Gin? He did get the jump on Chef Zef. He easily smashed Pearl and pretty convincingly beat Sanji (but he was already injured). He also beat Kreig's poison on willpower alone. He also said he'd follow his own convictions and meet the Straw Hats on the Grand Line someday. He's a maybe. Another possibility would be Enel. But then he'd have to come back down to Earth, make a name for himself, and still decide to ally with the marines. That doesn't sound right to me. Perhaps Rob Lucci. We know they're out there on their own and an alliance with the marines wouldn't be odd for them, but they're still pretty much underground as far as we know so they wouldn't have the worldwide renown to become a Shichibukai.
Would Marco have taken the spot or would his grudge against the world government be too much? I'm thinking he's too independent along with the other main Whitebeard lieutenants so probably not them. But what about Squard? He's got to be a pariah within Whitebeard's old crew. He's extra famous as the guy who could wound Whitebeard and also fought against Roger. I'd also see him as someone capable of hiding his anger towards the marines in order to achieve a goal and the title of Shichibukai may be needed to achieve his new goals. So I'll go with either Gin or Squard. As has been said in this thread, One Piece Z has hinted at both the new (third) admiral as well as the mystery Shichibukai. The pirate in question has to be decently old, as he was the one who was arrested cut off Zephyr's arm (after being arrested some time back). Strawberry is heavily hinted to be the new Admiral.
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On February 28 2013 14:02 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 28 2013 00:16 Hyperbola wrote: I thought I read somewhere that it takes 50 years or so for the devil fruit to reemerge... But holy shit! The mera mera fruit! And Akainu! And buggy! This was an awesome chapter! smileys fruit reemerged immediately (presumably) the onyl question is is does some random fruit somewhere in the world change or is it just the nearest fruit at the time Smileys are only zoan and the 50 years for the fruit to regrow was only in the pilot chapter
It's possible Doflo is actually holding a smiley, and just plans to use it to trick Luffy. Not like Luffy would know exactly what the mera mera fruit looks like (nor would many others), so I imagine it wouldn't be that hard to fake.
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On February 28 2013 15:41 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +It feels a little like when Luffy's crew went to Water 7 and you knew they would get a shipwright. For quite awhile I thought Paulie would join the Strawhats. He had unique attacks and his own personality quirks, but was a good guy deep down and seemed like the obvious choice. It took quite awhile before Franky showed himself as a shipwright that could join the crew. I'm thinking Oda is dangling Momo/Kinemon out in front of us just like Paulie to keep us off the scent of Kanjurou. Meanwhile, a samurai isn't very unique since the Straw Hats already have Zoro. So that samurai better have some really odd talents. The mera mera fruit would certainly make him different. your forgetting how well Kinemon fits in the group though hes completes the Pervert trie (Sanji Brook Kinemon) fulfills the sword trio (Brook one sword, cold style Kinemon 2 sword fire style Zoro 3 sword badass style) there seems to be a trio theme sort of with the monster trio (Luffy Zoro Sanji) and the weakling trio (Nami Usopp Chopper) he jsut fits in with the strawhats too well and follows there pace to well to be fleeting IMO
Yes but dont you think Kinemon might become too close in strength of the monster trio?
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On February 28 2013 18:40 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2013 15:41 Forikorder wrote:It feels a little like when Luffy's crew went to Water 7 and you knew they would get a shipwright. For quite awhile I thought Paulie would join the Strawhats. He had unique attacks and his own personality quirks, but was a good guy deep down and seemed like the obvious choice. It took quite awhile before Franky showed himself as a shipwright that could join the crew. I'm thinking Oda is dangling Momo/Kinemon out in front of us just like Paulie to keep us off the scent of Kanjurou. Meanwhile, a samurai isn't very unique since the Straw Hats already have Zoro. So that samurai better have some really odd talents. The mera mera fruit would certainly make him different. your forgetting how well Kinemon fits in the group though hes completes the Pervert trie (Sanji Brook Kinemon) fulfills the sword trio (Brook one sword, cold style Kinemon 2 sword fire style Zoro 3 sword badass style) there seems to be a trio theme sort of with the monster trio (Luffy Zoro Sanji) and the weakling trio (Nami Usopp Chopper) he jsut fits in with the strawhats too well and follows there pace to well to be fleeting IMO Yes but dont you think Kinemon might become too close in strength of the monster trio? He doesn't seem too strong, Brooke is probably closer
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Vivi did fit wellwith the strawhats, too, and we all know how that worked out. But then again, it's Oda-sensei and he is unpredictable at times.
On the contra side, Kinemon has Momo to take care of. And Momo may have a DF, but he's still a kid and has shown less combat power than Nami. Momo isn't gonna stay forever and since Kinemon seems to be his only parent in a radius of 50 miles, I think both will leave the Strawhats after they rescue/destroy the Zou island they were talking about. Then replace Kinemon with a somewhat similar and freakishly different person. Kanjuuro seems a good possibility, since he's a Samurai.
See like this: Vivi, a bit silent/reserved woman, knowledgeable in countries(with royalty) Nico Robin, a silent/reserved woman, knowledgeable in all history
Paulie, a genius shipwright Frankie, a genius shipwright with a more freakish character
Kinemon is a testrun how good a Samurai will mesh with the Strawhats. Then we get a more interesting version of Kinemon WITHOUT A KID.
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besides all the new stuff we got to see, i was just reading old episodes, and saw this guys here http://www.mangasee.com/manga/?series=OnePiece&chapter=594&index=1&page=2 and i have the feeling they could be somewhat stronger than a admiral. and the old guy with the sword will be zoros enemy. are there any more infos about them?
edit: and while i read the next page, i m interessted to see what garp did the 2 years. and what dragon did. oh so much stuff. i love it!
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