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rei
United States3594 Posts
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On January 17 2013 08:32 BlackMagister wrote: What kind of attack was Law planning to use if Ussop and Nami didn't volunteer to take down Buffalo and Baby5? Some sort of swirly motion with air/energy, but I don't see how that would stem from his devil fruit since it seems like he would using power outside the range of his room. Unless he can condense his room to a smaller area and stretch it out to only affect a narrow but long area like a beam? Although the fight with Vergo shows Law has pretty destructive range that wasn't really a precision slash. Law's last attack (where he cut vergo), cut the span of like, an entire mountain. If Name/Ussop could reach the two, they were probably within Law's range too. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On January 17 2013 06:33 Zeo1990 wrote: ....well THATS interesting...its too early to really know but perhaps Doflamingo himself "gave" Law his crew in some manner when he joined the organization? This adds an interesting mystery to Ace potentially. Was there any seemingly cryptic/weird lines he said during the WB War? maybe there's another clue? also i now have justification to link this =D Black Joker Queen of Spades Ace of Clubs King of Hearts Jack of Diamonds MAKE THE CONNECTION ODA Earth Wind Water Fire Heart  | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
 Well, Aokiji's cool too.  | ||
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GettingIt
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semantics
10040 Posts
On January 17 2013 09:28 BrokenMirage wrote: When I first saw the shadow, I assumed it was Vegapunk. Well, Aokiji's cool too. He has been absent after the time skip, and he did leave the marines and at one point was speculated to join star hat crew to add a logia to their group. I doubt it's vegapunk just because he seems the time to be held up somewhere in a big government facility like a final boss sorta deal. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
That's by no means "goes above and beyond" it's merely doing whatever it takes to achieve the objective that was given to him. When we say someone "goes above and beyond" someone's duty, it signifies further actions after the objective was complete and the duty given to say person is done. Ohara's instant his duty was not complete till Robin is dead, and she is still alive, and in the battle of marine fort his duty was to defend the marine fort at all cost. Pirates invading his home base must be purged. There is nothing above and beyond, he simple doing what his duty requires him to do, and he's doing whatever it takes to complete his duty. again, he's just a good solider that follows his order, the ones who gives the order to wipe out Ohara are the ones who are evil, and you can't fault him for defending marine fort, he is suppose to defend his home. If all the Pirates retreated, and he still goes ape shit on his follow soldiers then yes, you can say he's bat shit crazy and evil. but it was clearly not the case, Cobby was trying to stop him while the whitebread fleet were still engaged in the war, what was he suppose to do? stop fighting the Pirates who came in and invaded marine fort and make peace before his superiors gives him any order to stop fighting? doing his duty on Ohara is killing the scholars and evacuating the civilians going above his duty is killing all the civilians doing his duty at Marineford is fighting the pirates taking time away from the battle to execute deserters is not even doing his duty i can sort of unserstand what you mean but the point is Akainu wanted to kill innocent marines more then he wanted to kill the pirates every marine he killed could have more pirates he killed yes hes just following orders and its hard to say how much of a villain hell be (_considering the set up i expect him to be a major villain since SH VS WG has been set up for a while and Aikanu controls the WG militia essentially) but Akainu is more likely to watch someone die then come save them to use DnD alignment chart hes lawful eil he acts fully within the bounds of law but at every chance he gets twists it to make other people miserable (or dead more accurately) | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
deserter during war time is by no mean innocent, the punishment for deserting during war time is death, and the one who hand down the punishment is of course the commander of the military. I even fucking linked the USA military law for reference for crying out loud, how can you still argue about deserters being innocent. and don't back track your words and say your point is about him having the wrong priority during the marine fort war. You are trying to back track what you said which was Akainu murders innocent marines into Akainu had the wrong priority and he should have handled the Whitebread crews before he handles the deserters. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On January 17 2013 13:52 Forikorder wrote: doing his duty on Ohara is killing the scholars and evacuating the civilians going above his duty is killing all the civilians doing his duty at Marineford is fighting the pirates taking time away from the battle to execute deserters is not even doing his duty i can sort of unserstand what you mean but the point is Akainu wanted to kill innocent marines more then he wanted to kill the pirates every marine he killed could have more pirates he killed yes hes just following orders and its hard to say how much of a villain hell be (_considering the set up i expect him to be a major villain since SH VS WG has been set up for a while and Aikanu controls the WG militia essentially) but Akainu is more likely to watch someone die then come save them to use DnD alignment chart hes lawful eil he acts fully within the bounds of law but at every chance he gets twists it to make other people miserable (or dead more accurately) No. Akainu hatred against pirates is stronger than anyone in the OP universe. I got no idea what you mean about Akainu wanting to kill innocent marines. | ||
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32761 Posts
On January 17 2013 22:54 Fenrax wrote: I think the mystery person is going to be Crocodile. If you are talking about the guy who floated on water, I doubt Crocodile can do that, and he seems too relaxed compared to previous appearances. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On January 17 2013 23:06 PhoenixVoid wrote: If you are talking about the guy who floated on water, I doubt Crocodile can do that, and he seems too relaxed compared to previous appearances. anyone could sit on a small boat or animal like that oO why can crocodile not do that? :D i still think its aokiji | ||
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Nahsom
Austria361 Posts
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On January 17 2013 19:19 FakeDeath wrote: No. Akainu hatred against pirates is stronger than anyone in the OP universe. I got no idea what you mean about Akainu wanting to kill innocent marines. Forikorder won't agree with you doesn't matter how much evidence you mount in front of his face. I have stopped trying to convince him of anything months ago, I only engage in this to convince other people that might get misinformed by him, i am pretty sure I have convince everybody that Akainu is not a evil person by now, so it doesn't matter if Forikorder keeps on trying, he's just trying to save his own ego at this point. | ||
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DODswe4
Sweden2157 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
I dont really have a guide, rules, black and white in my mind to define evil. But when I see evil, I noe it is evil. It is something God gave me. Wait, maybe I do have a definition too. --> Throw out moral issue to achieve objective. U noe history dictator, starve lots of ppl yet building atomic weapon just to secure his seat of power. Or start a war to glorify his country. Maybe at the end of the day he does all those not for himself, maybe for his country? But with all the evil things he did, would u consider him not evil? A guy who would do anything for a girl he loves. Maybe to the extreme end, that the girl suffered alot. To the girl, he is evil. The evil things he did she will never forget. Maybe to some of u, it is justified. He did it for love. So he is not an evil guy. And I wan to mention, regarding me writing the Akainu being evil monster. I just wrote it out because I was excited ytd after reading the forum and just read the new episode! If u read my post carefully, u should noe I didnt mean it to be an argument.... Just some happy comment. | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
On January 17 2013 19:19 FakeDeath wrote: No. Akainu hatred against pirates is stronger than anyone in the OP universe. I got no idea what you mean about Akainu wanting to kill innocent marines. He means Coby. When Coby tries to stop all the fighting, since they basically won the war already, Akainu basically goes "there's no place in the marines for wimps like you", and goes to kill him (but is stopped by shanks). | ||
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rei
United States3594 Posts
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Krytha
Canada140 Posts
http://www.mangareader.net/103-31007-6/one-piece/chapter-556.html | ||
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RenSC2
United States1102 Posts
Even many other dedicated marines tend to look on his actions as going too far. Garp has been set up as a good guy and wants to kill Akainu. Coby has been set up as a good guy and directly stands in front of Akainu to stop him. Sengoku chooses Akioji over Akainu for the fleet admiral position though Akainu seems to be the strongest fighter. Akioji, who's a mixed character that's known for laziness, decided to go all out to stop Akainu from obtaining the fleet admiral seat. Almost every major "good" character within the marines wants to stop (or kill) Akainu. Akainu represents a brutal military philosophy that is being used by a corrupt "world government" to oppress the world. Akainu may not be "evil" in the purest sense, but he is definitely one of the main villains in One Piece. And yes, I agree that the shadow is probably Akioji. Probably riding some sort of bird, but could be on an iceberg that he created to sleep on. Problem with the iceberg theory is the point sticking out of the right side. | ||
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