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On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. ![[image loading]](http://i45.tinypic.com/286whlk.jpg) . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited.  I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power  Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc..
Akainu is not evil.
He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ".
He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level.
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Dude he shot down a ship full of civilians just because he thought there's a minimal chance that one of the Ohara scholars sneaked on board.
If Garp Sengoku and Kuzan are good cop then Akainu is bad cop.
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On January 16 2013 23:20 Scaramanga wrote:+ Show Spoiler +If it is Kuzan, why wouldn't he be riding his bike?
Because he was sleeping. He can't sleep on a bike... probably.
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On January 16 2013 23:04 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited. I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc.. Akainu is not evil. He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ". He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level.
That is evil
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On January 16 2013 23:33 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 23:04 FakeDeath wrote:On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited. I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc.. Akainu is not evil. He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ". He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level. That is evil
Sacrifices must be made in order to achieve greater good :p
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Haha, Oda draw the guys on in wild dream, like chasing idol when they saw the hero robot.
And the girls just *Stare* . . . . . and feeling empty in mind. You noe.. " ... " and crow fly over.
But I am pretty sure I will go wild when I saw the huge robot save the day.
I will jizz in pants when he shoot the General CANNON and blast them off like Team rocket always did.
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I literally said
"OHH SHIT OHH SHIT OHH SHIT!!"
When I realized that it was ex admiral sleeping
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On January 16 2013 23:33 XiaoJoyce- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 23:04 FakeDeath wrote:On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited. I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc.. Akainu is not evil. He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ". He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level. That is evil
Not necessarily.
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On January 16 2013 23:44 Peden wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 23:33 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 23:04 FakeDeath wrote:On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited. I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc.. Akainu is not evil. He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ". He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level. That is evil Sacrifices must be made in order to achieve greater good :p
considering the "greater good" hes protecting includes enslaving innocent people and pointless wars and death tolls hes evil
as long as the people who give him orders are the Tenryuubito and he even goes above and beyond there orders hes evil
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Kuzan to join Strawhat crew.
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On January 17 2013 00:41 Eshra wrote:
Kuzan to join Strawhat crew.
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I don't think so. He might be friendly to them now that he is no admiral anymore but his powerlevel doesn't fit into the crew. He would be the superstar and that doesn't happen.
EDIT: But the reason why he might go back to Punk Hazard is to meet Law... Maybe Aokiji is the key to Laws mysterious plan! O:
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Franky is so super awesome
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so i came to this thread cause i was dying to find out who the mystery guy might be, and this thread didnt disappoint
everyone seems to have come to the conclusion that it is indeed aokiji?
i would actually jizz my pants if aokiji joined luffys crew, although him still being a marine at heart would make the likelihood of that happening very slim
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I'll tell you that Aokiji is the key to defeat one of the Yonkous as Law wanted with his plan. =)
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On January 17 2013 00:32 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2013 23:44 Peden wrote:On January 16 2013 23:33 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 23:04 FakeDeath wrote:On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited. I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc.. Akainu is not evil. He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ". He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level. That is evil Sacrifices must be made in order to achieve greater good :p considering the "greater good" hes protecting includes enslaving innocent people and pointless wars and death tolls hes evil as long as the people who give him orders are the Tenryuubito and he even goes above and beyond there orders hes evil
That makes him a good soldier that follows orders. The one gives the order is responsible for the actions of the one who follows the orders.
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I want to see Vegapunk so badly. Franky recreated himself with vegapunk's old plans and become strong like this. Vegapunk must be one of the strongest character in OP.
I hope Aokiji joins straw hats because we need Logia user in crew~
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On January 17 2013 02:41 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2013 00:32 Forikorder wrote:On January 16 2013 23:44 Peden wrote:On January 16 2013 23:33 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 23:04 FakeDeath wrote:On January 16 2013 22:50 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 22:10 bittman wrote:On January 16 2013 22:03 XiaoJoyce- wrote:On January 16 2013 21:57 Chexx wrote:On January 16 2013 21:40 FakeDeath wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Yeah that most likely is Aokiji. The only guy that sleep at everywhere at any given time. Who else would do that? But why would he go to Punk Hazard? Franky is pretty badass. Now he can use Gaou Cannon. He solo-ed Baby 5 and Buffalo pretty easily. And people who are wondering what happened to Aokiji. . The battle between him and Akainu really cost him a lot. Ohhh did not expect that Aokiji lost a leg and got this many scars. Akainu seems really really strong He is like the big boss, the whitebeard saga he looks undefeatable. When Garp said he gonna kill Akainu I was lil bit excited. I feel Garp is strong too, but nv get to see him showcase his true power Whitebeard was so epic in the whitebeard arc that people forgot that Akainu was actually a one man wrecking machine. Only Whitebeard could properly stop him in a slightly extended fight, and it was 2 earthquakes which Akainu recovered from for half his face. Meanwhile some of the strongest fighters in the entire battle could only slow him down. Marco, Iva, Ace, Crocodile, Jimbei, etc were simply in the way for Akainu and not even threats. Akainu is one of those few villains that have so far appeared that made me think "Oh. This is the top of the world that Luffy will have to surpass." Only Blackbeard and Doflamingo have given me the same impression, and it looks like Doflamingo is coming sooner rather than later. Perhaps. But I agree with the guesses that it is Aokoji. Blackbeard didnt give me the strong feeling as compared to Akainu. I remember Whitebeard exploited one of the weakness and defeat him when he is in a very sorry state. And then his injured body took toll and cannot destroy blackbeard at that given moment. And Blackbeard Pirate step in to save Blackbeard. Blackbeard is sum1 I feel, strong but lack some inner thing???? Akainu is like the perfect evil monster. Defeat Ace, Akainu, and bla bla bla...etc.. Akainu is not evil. He is just brutal and an absolute believer in " Absolute Justice ". He just take the concept of absolute justice to an extremist level. That is evil Sacrifices must be made in order to achieve greater good :p considering the "greater good" hes protecting includes enslaving innocent people and pointless wars and death tolls hes evil as long as the people who give him orders are the Tenryuubito and he even goes above and beyond there orders hes evil That makes him a good soldier that follows orders. The one gives the order is responsible for the actions of the one who follows the orders.
yopu missed the "goes above and beyond those orders" like executing marines during the middle of battle and killing people from Ohara he wasnt supposed to
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That's by no means "goes above and beyond" it's merely doing whatever it takes to achieve the objective that was given to him. When we say someone "goes above and beyond" someone's duty, it signifies further actions after the objective was complete and the duty given to say person is done.
Ohara's instant his duty was not complete till Robin is dead, and she is still alive, and in the battle of marine fort his duty was to defend the marine fort at all cost. Pirates invading his home base must be purged. There is nothing above and beyond, he simple doing what his duty requires him to do, and he's doing whatever it takes to complete his duty.
again, he's just a good solider that follows his order, the ones who gives the order to wipe out Ohara are the ones who are evil, and you can't fault him for defending marine fort, he is suppose to defend his home. If all the Pirates retreated, and he still goes ape shit on his follow soldiers then yes, you can say he's bat shit crazy and evil. but it was clearly not the case, Cobby was trying to stop him while the whitebread fleet were still engaged in the war, what was he suppose to do? stop fighting the Pirates who came in and invaded marine fort and make peace before his superiors gives him any order to stop fighting?
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Awesome chapter, as always.
Franky is so epic now
Also, please do not start arguing with forikorder again, for fuck's sake, or this thread is gonna go to shit again.
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