[Manga] One Piece - Page 282

On January 17 2013 03:14 rei wrote:
That's by no means "goes above and beyond" it's merely doing whatever it takes to achieve the objective that was given to him. When we say someone "goes above and beyond" someone's duty, it signifies further actions after the objective was complete and the duty given to say person is done.

Ohara's instant his duty was not complete till Robin is dead, and she is still alive, and in the battle of marine fort his duty was to defend the marine fort at all cost. Privates invading his home base must be purged. There is nothing above and beyond, he simple doing what his duty requires him to do, and he's doing whatever it takes to complete his duty.

again, he's just a good solider that follows his order, the ones who gives the order to wipe out Ohara are the ones who are evil, and you can't fault him for defending marine fort, he is suppose to defend his home. If all the privates retreated, and he still goes ape shit on his follow soldiers then yes, you can say he's bat shit crazy and evil. but it was clearly not the case, Cobby was trying to stop him while the whitebread fleet were still engaged in the war, what was he suppose to do? stop fighting the privates who came in and invaded marine fort and make peace before his superiors gives him any order to stop fighting?

On January 17 2013 03:28 AsnSensation wrote:
Fori has actually a good point here, I don't see how someone that kills innocent civilians and leaves the battlefield to hunt down marines that are too afraid to fight can not be considered evil.

On January 17 2013 03:29 Sableyeah wrote:
Nami > Logia

It's more likely that either father samurai or apprentice samurai/dragon would join rather than Aokiji. And I think he'll just be another Jimbei that will help him in a big war like the previous one rather than join the crew.

On January 17 2013 03:37 rei wrote:

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm85.htm
in time of war, desertion is punish by death. He had every right to kill those who runs.

On January 17 2013 03:29 Sableyeah wrote:
Nami > Logia

It's more likely that either father samurai or apprentice samurai/dragon would join rather than Aokiji. And I think he'll just be another Jimbei that will help him in a big war like the previous one rather than join the crew.

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You mean Pirates and not the rank Privates right? :/ 'follow soldiers' should refer to marines? Reread your text bro, I know you are excited and all but still.

On January 17 2013 03:47 Gowa wrote:


Come on, they're talking about the one piece universe here, in which killing=extreme.
akainu doesn't take any half measure and almost doesn't think about his orders, as opposed to aokiji who let robin live back when he encountered the crew.
what you say is wrong, akainu is a bad guy ^^

On January 17 2013 04:02 rei wrote:


Aokiji is a bad soldier, but a good person. Akainu is a good soldier but a blind one who doesn't care what order was given to him. There could be a back story as to why Akainu upholds what he thinks is absolute justice. This doesn't necessary make him evil. For him to be evil he has to have a motive that is his own and takes action to achieve that evil motive. For example, Enel, who wanna leave skypidia, but he's so evil that he wanna destroy it before he goes and killing everybody that's still in it.

Akainu so far has not demonstrate anything evil worthy, just because he is against the main characters doesn't make him evil.
Maybe later one Oda will make him truly evil, but I highly doubt it. He is much more of an interesting character who follows his blind justice.

On January 17 2013 04:22 Gowa wrote:

this is factually true but I guess I'm just more naive when it comes to alignment
I just follow the general opinion, and after what happened with ace and sengoku not wanting him to be his successor it was pretty clear to me that he was a bad guy, not the type you would want to control an army. And at this point he's got to know what's going on in the world government etc... there's a difference between him and smoker who truly upholds justice as it is, not the marine's or the government's justice

And I agree when you say he's not truly evil, there's no such thing in any well written story :D

On January 17 2013 06:20 Peden wrote:
Just rereading the chapter on MangaStream noticing Joker reserving "the seat of the Hearts", as in the "Heart Pirates" Law's crew.

Doflamingo as the Joker, having set up he's underling main crews as card Suits. So we have Hearts, Clubs, Diamonds aaaaaaand Spades ??:D

On January 17 2013 06:44 AsnSensation wrote:
Im not sure what you are referencing to but Ace crew were the Spade pirates so it's ace of spades^^

On January 17 2013 06:44 AsnSensation wrote:
Im not sure what you are referencing to but Ace crew were the Spade pirates so it's ace of spades^^