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Sickkiee
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Japan607 Posts
January 22 2013 17:33 GMT
#5681
On January 22 2013 07:01 Iplaythings wrote:
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On January 19 2013 17:28 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 19 2013 17:22 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
So ODA get paid well?


He gets paid 25$ million USD per year just on royalties on One Piece.
(Merchandise,games,etc)

He is probably the richest manga artist in Japan.

So happy to hear it, he definitly deserves it.

Also, please dont tell me that one piece z was dubbed or translated to english / spanish / w/e, the japanese is so good


I think they will sub it for most places - unless Funimation or whatever NA/EU distributor gets the licences quick and does a dub in a month or two?
Lifes too short to be small.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
January 22 2013 17:42 GMT
#5682
On January 22 2013 14:21 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 14:14 BrokenMirage wrote:
On January 18 2013 06:32 Rowa wrote:
So, could Aokiji be seeking Law in order to fit his leg back or something along those lines ?


I doubt it. Since he hasn't had his leg reattached by some other surgeon, he obviously can't (if it was destroyed by lava or something) or won't (he doesn't care) do that. Also I'm not sure why a real leg or animal leg stuck on by Law, would be inherently better than a prosthetic of ice.

would be more natural for him to move if he had Law give him a leg


I'll have to agree with BrokenMirage here. I can't see why a new leg would be of any good to him, since his ice leg is just as much a part of his body as his real limbs.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2013 17:46 GMT
#5683
On January 23 2013 02:42 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 14:21 Forikorder wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:14 BrokenMirage wrote:
On January 18 2013 06:32 Rowa wrote:
So, could Aokiji be seeking Law in order to fit his leg back or something along those lines ?


I doubt it. Since he hasn't had his leg reattached by some other surgeon, he obviously can't (if it was destroyed by lava or something) or won't (he doesn't care) do that. Also I'm not sure why a real leg or animal leg stuck on by Law, would be inherently better than a prosthetic of ice.

would be more natural for him to move if he had Law give him a leg


I'll have to agree with BrokenMirage here. I can't see why a new leg would be of any good to him, since his ice leg is just as much a part of his body as his real limbs.

in order to move his ice leg he has to use his ability to move his leg so there should be a small delay since instead of just moving his leg he has to use his ability to make the leg move if he had his real leg hed cut out the middle man

if ice limbs was so good hed cut off all his limbs and replace with ice
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
January 22 2013 18:02 GMT
#5684
On January 23 2013 02:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 02:42 Prog455 wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:21 Forikorder wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:14 BrokenMirage wrote:
On January 18 2013 06:32 Rowa wrote:
So, could Aokiji be seeking Law in order to fit his leg back or something along those lines ?


I doubt it. Since he hasn't had his leg reattached by some other surgeon, he obviously can't (if it was destroyed by lava or something) or won't (he doesn't care) do that. Also I'm not sure why a real leg or animal leg stuck on by Law, would be inherently better than a prosthetic of ice.

would be more natural for him to move if he had Law give him a leg


I'll have to agree with BrokenMirage here. I can't see why a new leg would be of any good to him, since his ice leg is just as much a part of his body as his real limbs.

in order to move his ice leg he has to use his ability to move his leg so there should be a small delay since instead of just moving his leg he has to use his ability to make the leg move if he had his real leg hed cut out the middle man

if ice limbs was so good hed cut off all his limbs and replace with ice

I think you should take a break from religiously attempting to prove everyone wrong in these threads every once in a while forik. I literally LOL'd reading that.
b3n3tt3
Profile Joined January 2012
595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 18:08:18
January 22 2013 18:06 GMT
#5685
On January 23 2013 02:46 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 02:42 Prog455 wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:21 Forikorder wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:14 BrokenMirage wrote:
On January 18 2013 06:32 Rowa wrote:
So, could Aokiji be seeking Law in order to fit his leg back or something along those lines ?


I doubt it. Since he hasn't had his leg reattached by some other surgeon, he obviously can't (if it was destroyed by lava or something) or won't (he doesn't care) do that. Also I'm not sure why a real leg or animal leg stuck on by Law, would be inherently better than a prosthetic of ice.

would be more natural for him to move if he had Law give him a leg


I'll have to agree with BrokenMirage here. I can't see why a new leg would be of any good to him, since his ice leg is just as much a part of his body as his real limbs.

in order to move his ice leg he has to use his ability to move his leg so there should be a small delay since instead of just moving his leg he has to use his ability to make the leg move if he had his real leg hed cut out the middle man

if ice limbs was so good hed cut off all his limbs and replace with ice


I suppose he could have mastered his DF since he's an admiral he's likely to be on the toughest bracket of logias in all of one piece in general

edit: since there's no DF connection via brain unlike muscles, it could be hinted that there's no delay since using his powers is all in the mind (a devil's soul doesn't need nerves and thus will have no delay whatsoever)
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 22 2013 18:11 GMT
#5686
I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for Aokoji to want an animal leg or fake leg attached because he wouldn't be able to turn it into ice, but the whole clothing works with Logias makes it more questionable. If he were to attach a human/animal/fake leg really well could he turn it into ice?
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 18:46:26
January 22 2013 18:44 GMT
#5687
Alright guys, I know the 'turning into ice' thing isnt consistent with him losing a leg and not just making a new one just like he 'remakes' his body when hes changing, just like all logias do. But you know what?

It looks cool and is cool. There, I said it. Who cares if this little detail doesnt make 100 percent sense. Its fiction, deal with it. Its cool to theorycraft and all, but when I see people taking it to the next level by bringing arguments from all over the manga just to try and prove their point, I think its going a little bit too far, because the author himself probably didnt think about it that much himself. Especially since its weekly releases, he has to make up some stuff and that is prone to small inconsistencies and you just kind of have to go with it. If its sort-of consistent its still all good. As long as the overall story makes sense I am happy. But I am sure that Oda has more in store for us.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2013 20:23 GMT
#5688
On January 23 2013 03:06 b3n3tt3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 02:46 Forikorder wrote:
On January 23 2013 02:42 Prog455 wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:21 Forikorder wrote:
On January 22 2013 14:14 BrokenMirage wrote:
On January 18 2013 06:32 Rowa wrote:
So, could Aokiji be seeking Law in order to fit his leg back or something along those lines ?


I doubt it. Since he hasn't had his leg reattached by some other surgeon, he obviously can't (if it was destroyed by lava or something) or won't (he doesn't care) do that. Also I'm not sure why a real leg or animal leg stuck on by Law, would be inherently better than a prosthetic of ice.

would be more natural for him to move if he had Law give him a leg


I'll have to agree with BrokenMirage here. I can't see why a new leg would be of any good to him, since his ice leg is just as much a part of his body as his real limbs.

in order to move his ice leg he has to use his ability to move his leg so there should be a small delay since instead of just moving his leg he has to use his ability to make the leg move if he had his real leg hed cut out the middle man

if ice limbs was so good hed cut off all his limbs and replace with ice


I suppose he could have mastered his DF since he's an admiral he's likely to be on the toughest bracket of logias in all of one piece in general

edit: since there's no DF connection via brain unlike muscles, it could be hinted that there's no delay since using his powers is all in the mind (a devil's soul doesn't need nerves and thus will have no delay whatsoever)

i was more thinking about the delay between him noticing it and having to activate his power then move the leg instead of being to reflexibly just move the leg unconciously

its always faster to move something unconciously then concsiously
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
January 22 2013 20:27 GMT
#5689
Makes sense to me that you can lose body parts. Diamond Jose lost an arm. If your body is sliced off by Haki, it should be as if you're really cut. If you're a logia and avoid the haki imbued blade by splitting then that's different.

Though by this logic, bara bara no mi isn't going to protect that clown from death if he's actually cut by haki unless he splits correctly. Luffy using him as a shield was actually dangerous for him and he has every right to be scared shitless.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2013 20:41 GMT
#5690
On January 23 2013 05:27 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Makes sense to me that you can lose body parts. Diamond Jose lost an arm. If your body is sliced off by Haki, it should be as if you're really cut. If you're a logia and avoid the haki imbued blade by splitting then that's different.

Though by this logic, bara bara no mi isn't going to protect that clown from death if he's actually cut by haki unless he splits correctly. Luffy using him as a shield was actually dangerous for him and he has every right to be scared shitless.

Buggy isnt a Logia, Haki has the ability to make Logias shifting body remain solid so that attacks cant pass through them automatically but Buggys body splits apart so even though Hawkeye was using a haki blade to try to kill him his fruit still protects him

essentially its impossible to beat Buggy with a sword unless you use the blunt edge
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
January 22 2013 20:53 GMT
#5691
When did Aokiji lose his leg o.o
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 22 2013 20:57 GMT
#5692
On January 23 2013 05:53 StaplerPhone wrote:
When did Aokiji lose his leg o.o

i think the cahracter art for the new one piece movie has him missing a leg
Terant
Profile Joined September 2010
Malta60 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 21:22:53
January 22 2013 21:00 GMT
#5693
During the war Akainu lost half of his upper and he just used his powers to regrow it (however could be an anime-only thing since I didn't read the manga).
So i don't see why aokiji couldn't be able to just regrow his leg too.

Refering to this scene
+ Show Spoiler +
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
January 22 2013 21:20 GMT
#5694
On January 23 2013 06:00 Terant wrote:
During the war Akainu lost half of his upper and he just used his powers to regrow it (however could be an anime-only thing since I didn't read the manga).
So i don't see why aokiji couldn't be able to just regrow his leg too.


Haki and all that jazz, you can't expect a battle between Aokiji and Akainu to last 10 days and completely terraform an island and not have one of them injured in the process.

As for Akainu losing his upper half - Akainu got punched pretty hard by Whitebeard (but wasn't really hurt that badly) and sliced in half by Crocodile (but logia lolololol), that's pretty much it.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 00:13:25
January 23 2013 00:13 GMT
#5695
On January 23 2013 03:11 BlackMagister wrote:
I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for Aokoji to want an animal leg or fake leg attached because he wouldn't be able to turn it into ice, but the whole clothing works with Logias makes it more questionable. If he were to attach a human/animal/fake leg really well could he turn it into ice?


I thought about that too, but then I remembered Monet is a Snow Logia, and a harpy, and she can fully transform into snow just fine.

On January 23 2013 05:41 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 05:27 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Makes sense to me that you can lose body parts. Diamond Jose lost an arm. If your body is sliced off by Haki, it should be as if you're really cut. If you're a logia and avoid the haki imbued blade by splitting then that's different.

Though by this logic, bara bara no mi isn't going to protect that clown from death if he's actually cut by haki unless he splits correctly. Luffy using him as a shield was actually dangerous for him and he has every right to be scared shitless.

Buggy isnt a Logia, Haki has the ability to make Logias shifting body remain solid so that attacks cant pass through them automatically but Buggys body splits apart so even though Hawkeye was using a haki blade to try to kill him his fruit still protects him

essentially its impossible to beat Buggy with a sword unless you use the blunt edge


Oh god. Please don't go back into your "Everything is haki" routine. Hawkeye was merely doing the same thing Zoro has done with his cannon, and that's not haki.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
January 23 2013 00:14 GMT
#5696
On January 23 2013 06:00 Terant wrote:
During the war Akainu lost half of his upper and he just used his powers to regrow it (however could be an anime-only thing since I didn't read the manga).
So i don't see why aokiji couldn't be able to just regrow his leg too.

Refering to this scene
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUfSY43Rfs8


It's about that in the manga too, but like all One Piece manga-anime it's just not drawn out over 20 minutes per page (exaggeration but hey hehe). In that shot Akainu was simply hit by some cannonballs, no person of strength shot them so there's no reason to assume haki. A bit later Marco strikes with haki to slice near the neck which causes Akainu to flinch a bit as if in pain, however there's no serious repercussions there.

Some people are noting consistency issues, but to me it's not that at all. I look at new Aokoji and go "...oh shit Akainu has just basically made almost every other fighter look weak". I mean, to take out Aokoji is a big thing. To leave such a lasting scar? Guys: Akainu. He's basically at the top of the world. You can argue Shanks, Blackbeard, Dragon, etc but evidence wise I'm personally yet to see any evidence to say Akainu is weaker than anyone else. Oda is doing a great job of reinforcing this which is great because we need more villains that look unbeatable.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 23 2013 00:18 GMT
#5697
On January 23 2013 09:13 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 03:11 BlackMagister wrote:
I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for Aokoji to want an animal leg or fake leg attached because he wouldn't be able to turn it into ice, but the whole clothing works with Logias makes it more questionable. If he were to attach a human/animal/fake leg really well could he turn it into ice?


I thought about that too, but then I remembered Monet is a Snow Logia, and a harpy, and she can fully transform into snow just fine.

Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 05:41 Forikorder wrote:
On January 23 2013 05:27 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Makes sense to me that you can lose body parts. Diamond Jose lost an arm. If your body is sliced off by Haki, it should be as if you're really cut. If you're a logia and avoid the haki imbued blade by splitting then that's different.

Though by this logic, bara bara no mi isn't going to protect that clown from death if he's actually cut by haki unless he splits correctly. Luffy using him as a shield was actually dangerous for him and he has every right to be scared shitless.

Buggy isnt a Logia, Haki has the ability to make Logias shifting body remain solid so that attacks cant pass through them automatically but Buggys body splits apart so even though Hawkeye was using a haki blade to try to kill him his fruit still protects him

essentially its impossible to beat Buggy with a sword unless you use the blunt edge


Oh god. Please don't go back into your "Everything is haki" routine. Hawkeye was merely doing the same thing Zoro has done with his cannon, and that's not haki.

allright Hawkeye was fighting in a war with pretty much every big name in the world and was fighting laid back dispite saying himself he wasnt going to hold back
ShurykaN
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States338 Posts
January 23 2013 00:18 GMT
#5698
What would happen if a Zoan type other than Chopper ate his rumble ball? Maybe it is specific to his human human fruit, but imagine if Marco or Sengoku got four more forms they could transform into. Also if a normal human ate it would it have an effect?

Example:
Momosuke - Dragon Zoan Fruit Forms (assuming he could change normally)
Human
Dragon
Half Dragon
Momosuke - With rumble ball
Wing point
Breath point
Claw point
Teeth point
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
January 23 2013 00:20 GMT
#5699
On January 23 2013 09:18 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 09:13 killa_robot wrote:
On January 23 2013 03:11 BlackMagister wrote:
I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for Aokoji to want an animal leg or fake leg attached because he wouldn't be able to turn it into ice, but the whole clothing works with Logias makes it more questionable. If he were to attach a human/animal/fake leg really well could he turn it into ice?


I thought about that too, but then I remembered Monet is a Snow Logia, and a harpy, and she can fully transform into snow just fine.

On January 23 2013 05:41 Forikorder wrote:
On January 23 2013 05:27 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Makes sense to me that you can lose body parts. Diamond Jose lost an arm. If your body is sliced off by Haki, it should be as if you're really cut. If you're a logia and avoid the haki imbued blade by splitting then that's different.

Though by this logic, bara bara no mi isn't going to protect that clown from death if he's actually cut by haki unless he splits correctly. Luffy using him as a shield was actually dangerous for him and he has every right to be scared shitless.

Buggy isnt a Logia, Haki has the ability to make Logias shifting body remain solid so that attacks cant pass through them automatically but Buggys body splits apart so even though Hawkeye was using a haki blade to try to kill him his fruit still protects him

essentially its impossible to beat Buggy with a sword unless you use the blunt edge


Oh god. Please don't go back into your "Everything is haki" routine. Hawkeye was merely doing the same thing Zoro has done with his cannon, and that's not haki.

allright Hawkeye was fighting in a war with pretty much every big name in the world and was fighting laid back dispite saying himself he wasnt going to hold back


Saying he's not gonna hold back doesn't mean he's going to bust out his strongest attacks, it means he's going to attack without concern over whether or not he'll kill/hurt someone. You really think he has to go 100% all out to kill people that far below him in ability?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
January 23 2013 00:22 GMT
#5700
On January 23 2013 09:20 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 09:18 Forikorder wrote:
On January 23 2013 09:13 killa_robot wrote:
On January 23 2013 03:11 BlackMagister wrote:
I was going to say it wouldn't make sense for Aokoji to want an animal leg or fake leg attached because he wouldn't be able to turn it into ice, but the whole clothing works with Logias makes it more questionable. If he were to attach a human/animal/fake leg really well could he turn it into ice?


I thought about that too, but then I remembered Monet is a Snow Logia, and a harpy, and she can fully transform into snow just fine.

On January 23 2013 05:41 Forikorder wrote:
On January 23 2013 05:27 ddrddrddrddr wrote:
Makes sense to me that you can lose body parts. Diamond Jose lost an arm. If your body is sliced off by Haki, it should be as if you're really cut. If you're a logia and avoid the haki imbued blade by splitting then that's different.

Though by this logic, bara bara no mi isn't going to protect that clown from death if he's actually cut by haki unless he splits correctly. Luffy using him as a shield was actually dangerous for him and he has every right to be scared shitless.

Buggy isnt a Logia, Haki has the ability to make Logias shifting body remain solid so that attacks cant pass through them automatically but Buggys body splits apart so even though Hawkeye was using a haki blade to try to kill him his fruit still protects him

essentially its impossible to beat Buggy with a sword unless you use the blunt edge


Oh god. Please don't go back into your "Everything is haki" routine. Hawkeye was merely doing the same thing Zoro has done with his cannon, and that's not haki.

allright Hawkeye was fighting in a war with pretty much every big name in the world and was fighting laid back dispite saying himself he wasnt going to hold back


Saying he's not gonna hold back doesn't mean he's going to bust out his strongest attacks, it means he's going to attack without concern over whether or not he'll kill/hurt someone. You really think he has to go 100% all out to kill people that far below him in ability?


considering the Chaos is he really gonna give up what might be his one shot to kill Luffy jsut because he doesnt think hell survive it?

besides even assuming he didnt use Haki at first he should ahve realised quickly that non-haki attacks wasnt doing anything to Buggy so hed try to use a Haki attack next to get through him since the first think hed think of is probably Logia
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