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evilfatsh1t
Australia8840 Posts
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
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Shellshock
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Hyperbola
United States2549 Posts
On May 17 2018 00:47 Mensol wrote: I dont remember such thing about it being a coin toss. would appreciate it if you give source. If it was coin toss/even fight, how did Aokiji end up losing one of his legs while Akainu is as strong as ever? Maybe it was an attack of opportunity. You realize that fights are chaotic and anything can happen, right? In fact, they fought for 10 days straight. That is absolutely insane. How long did Luffy and Katakuri fight for? A few hours? The longest fight we've seen was Luffy vs. Cracker which lasted an entire night and was literally Cracker making soldiers and Luffy eating them. Aokiji vs. Akainu went for 240 hours straight of them just throwing elements at eachother, so much so that Punk Hazard is literally split in half, with one side being a freezing wasteland and the other being a fiery hell. If you play 100 games of Star Craft vs another guy and you win 51 to 49 does that mean that you are now inherently better than them and your power level is 1000 points higher? Or does it mean that you're basically tit for tat and just you just happened to win twice in a row? You tell me. | ||
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Mensol
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According to an interview with Eiichiro Oda, he stated that if Sakazuki were to become the protagonist, he is so strong that he could end the One Piece series within a year This is all you need to know about Akainu. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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Mensol
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On May 19 2018 02:23 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I would say that the fact that they fought evenly for 10 days and one side only lost a leg is an inidicator that their skills and ability are pretty much equal. That's pretty much the direct inference I had gotten. I don't see anything to support that Akainu is any much stronger than Aokiji. "They were both severly wounded, though Akainu is pitiless, he showed mercy to his former comrade who couldnt even stand". | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2549 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/KmzyLkl.png) Could have been one attack he failed to dodge that took out his leg. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On May 16 2018 20:43 Mensol wrote: Only Akainu is strong as the emperors on current marines. There is a reason Blackbeard was running away once he saw him on the ship. The rest of the Admirals are on par with the strongest one on Yonkou's crew. what | ||
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Mensol
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Katakuri, Marco, Benn Beckmann and the King on Kaidou's crew are on par with the Admirals. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/vWCdvU7.jpg) On upper right, there is a paper which says, "Kaidou, King, Queen, Jack", which confirms for me that Jack is not the strongest after Kaidou on Beast pirates. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
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Mensol
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On May 20 2018 00:24 MajuGarzett wrote: No way Katakuri is the same level as an admiral if he just got beat by Luffy. That would leave a huge power level gap between the yonkou and everyone else. It was more of Katakuri letting him win than Luffy winning it lol. That being said, Luffy has already fought with Admiral in equal terms at Dressrosa. Katakuri is easily on Admiral level. | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On May 20 2018 02:10 Mensol wrote: It was more of Katakuri letting him win than Luffy winning it lol. That being said, Luffy has already fought with Admiral in equal terms at Dressrosa. Katakuri is easily on Admiral level. To me it looks like Katakuri collapsed from exhaustion, not that he let Luffy win. Also I don't think Fujitora was actually trying. Since Aokiji is a yonkou subordinate there might be others at or near admiral level, but I don't think Katakuri is one of those. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
i disagree when you say that katakuri is easily on admiral level because it wouldn't make sense at all in the OP universe, where the admirals are supposed to be the absolute force of the WG, it would create a huge imbalance between them and the yonko green bull has been hyped by dofy as a monster and as an equal to fujitora, the very same fujitora that literally sent a meteorite from space during the dressrosa arc and also leveled the whole island thanks to gravity - i have hardly been impressed that way by katakuri | ||
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Mensol
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Katakuri stand all alone against the SH/FireTank alliance during the wedding, probably have the best haki weve seen in series and over 1 billion bounty. His haki is so strong that he can see the glimpse of the future, enough reason for me to him being on admiral level and take on the admirals. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8840 Posts
theres no way marco is admiral level unless oda decides to redeem marco big time. jack surviving against 3 marines isnt really indicative of his "strength" the guys alive underwater with a devil fruit so clearly something else is going on with his survivability skills. he still shat himself when he saw those 3 at the start. | ||
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Mensol
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evilfatsh1t
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On May 20 2018 03:25 Mensol wrote: im talking about the strongest on Yonkou's crew. Jozu, Ace or Vista are not fit on what ive said. Jack didnt shit himself btw, and Marco wasnt only a spectator. It is true that Marco didnt look amazing at Marineford but he still hold his ground against Admirals, had no problem dealing with Kizaru. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJNifLWvNYA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im54-9uuREk This is such a bad opinion. Admirals are slightly less than yonkos. Akainu almost killed wb by himself and only lost because of sneak attack. Akainu then went on to face the entire wb commanders. Imagine if kizaru with serious injury faced the likes of katakuri, smoothie,cracker, snack, and etc and went even? Thats how powerful admirals are. Admirals can easily mid diff top level commanders. If you say admirals are equal to commanders that would be a travesty as you would be suggesting luffy can take on kizaru and beat him. This is far from the truth. Also the fact that you said admirals = commanders means that one piece is ruined. One of luffy’s end game boss will only be a mere commander level. Oda has always hinted that admirals are on same tier as yonko. BB running away with his entire crew when akainu was coming for them. Admirals easily defeating wb commanders as shown in marine ford. Akainu being favored vs injured wsm. Garp/sengoku fighting yonko level shiko,roger,wb at the time. | ||
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Mensol
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im not saying that smoothie, cracker, or snack, im saying Katakuri, who is the strongest after Big Mom on Big Mom Pirates, or Marco, who is also the strongest after WB. Marco and Benn Beckman has already proven that they have what it takes to fight against an admiral, and there is no reason for Katakuri to do same. I'd even argue that Katakuri has shown to be stronger than both Marco and Jack with his haki stuff but some reason people are underestimating him. Admirals = Commander doesnt mean One Piece is ruined. Oda has already shown at Marineford that the right hand/strongest one on yonkou's crew is as strong as an admiral. | ||
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