[Manga] One Piece - Page 1392

On October 05 2017 04:28 Makro wrote:
we should better argue about if buggy is gonna become a yonko after finding john treasure

On October 05 2017 04:19 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
In REAL LIFE, people learn how to build ships by learning from the traditions and knowledge and techniques and infrastructure accumulated from every other person that built a ship before them. For a relevant example, by 1800, just before the first steamships were made, a shipwright designing a large ship would have the accumlated knowledge from 10-100 masters before him for every generation since the dawn of written civilisation. So for example that French or British or Dutch master shipright has basically the knowledge transfered by a minimum lower limit of 5000 years of knowledge and experience and experimentation and an upper limit of about a milllion years. So yeah, if Enel didn't learn ship building from a professional institution, if he had time of at least 5000 years, and loads of ship making raw materials and equipment and labour, he has the time.

Of course though One Piece isn't real life.

Also all this one piece theorycrafting is boring.

They gained the mechanical skills essential for their success by working for years in their shop with printing presses, bicycles, motors, and other machinery. Their work with bicycles in particular influenced their belief that an unstable vehicle like a flying machine could be controlled and balanced with practice.[14] From 1900 until their first powered flights in late 1903, they conducted extensive glider tests that also developed their skills as pilots. Their bicycle shop employee Charlie Taylor became an important part of the team, building their first airplane engine in close collaboration with the brothers.

On October 05 2017 15:23 RenSC2 wrote:
Wright brothers wiki

Engines existed and Gliders existed before the Wright brothers came along. They took the next step, but it was the work they did in related fields that gave them the background information to take it. They didn't just magically create the airplane from nothing.

On October 05 2017 17:30 sharkie wrote:
Did Luffy hold his mouth in order not to yell to give the others cause to worry?

On October 05 2017 14:05 Forikorder wrote:


and what plane makers did the wright brothers learn from?

On October 05 2017 16:45 ZigguratOfUr wrote:


Well tbf Enel didn't start from nothing. He had jet dials and Wavers to consider.

Though this entire line of reasoning by analogy is rather ridiculous.

edit: Oh wow chapter's out early this week.

On October 05 2017 14:05 Forikorder wrote:


and what plane makers did the wright brothers learn from?

SOMEONE has to be first, SOMEONE has to create something new, sure alot of the time they use blueprints and knowledge from past generation and just improve on them but theres always people doing something so new that there is no relevant knowledge

we know nothing about Enels backstory, maybe he was a total prodigy from birth, maybe the blueprints of maxim has been worked on for generations in his family and handed down with the lightning fruit, maybe he invents time travel in the future and gives the blueprints to a past version of himself

bit saying its inconcievable for him to have invented maxim is just ridiculous

On October 05 2017 21:46 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yo Ho Ho Ho I am an aeronautical engineer. About 100 pioneers died trying to acheive heavier than air flight (lighter than air flight is considerably easier and safer), over a period of 100 years. What the wright brothers acheived was not building a plane, as there were hundreds of short flying/gliding/hopping/bouncing/crashing planes before them, but building a control system that allowed for sustained flight. Everything else, from the theory of flight, lightweight construction, an engine powerful enough for flight was researched by 9000 years of civilisation and the accretion of knowledge. Most importantly would be to derive the method of lift (not flapping), and the airscrew as thrust and the internal combustion engine (not steam engine). Simply put, it was inevitable around that time period that someone would eventually build a plane that can have long sustained flight. Ironically, their method of control of wing warping is not used today, and due to some rather aggressive patent protection, control methods rapidly changed away from their method of wing warping.

So, if you want to know what plane makers the Wright Brothers learnt from, 9000 years of civilisation building up to the petrol engine and about 100 dead people in about hundred years. And thousands of people over a period of 100 years dedicated to the grand dream of heavier than air powered flight.

Of course though, One Piece is not real life and Enel can fly under his own power and cannot die from falling to his death and has no need for a plane, but even if he was a genius he would fail hundreds of times and require billions of lifetimes before he can build a working plane from what we have seen from one piece level of technology. I mean does steam engines even exist in One Piece?

Btw I don't object to Enel being some sort of genius who did design and make the ship, I object to using real life logic to do so. In real life no amount of time without spending years learning the relevant profession in the appropriate institute will allow you to make a lightling powered helicopter 3000 ton wooden ship (something we can't actually make today, but that's because we don't have an Enel as a power source).

Of course in One Piece, we have 1750 ish ship construction level technology (combined with vice admiral battleships so big that they can't possible exists as they will break apart if they were made out of wood), gun technology ranging from 1400 to 1900 and gigantic robots, lasers and cyborgs.