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Indolent
Profile Joined January 2012
Poland137 Posts
February 05 2014 21:52 GMT
#8541
I think Rukia represents Kubo and this Quincy weirdo represents whole community. Even quotes fit!

"You are kidding, my ability makes you fear everything!"
"I am dead!"
"??? More nonsense"
"No seriously, I freeze EVERYTHING, myself included!"
"You continue to spout absurdities!"
"No really I'm dead because I'm super cold which makes me hyper fast!"
"That..Cannot be..."
"Ha! You are dead like me!:D:D"


NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 05 2014 22:13 GMT
#8542
I feel like this chapter was written in 5 minutes.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
February 05 2014 22:33 GMT
#8543
On February 06 2014 07:13 NewSunshine wrote:
I feel like this chapter was written in 5 minutes.


On toilet paper.
Before it was promptly used.
Get it by your hands...
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
February 06 2014 00:48 GMT
#8544
The amount of logic is overwhelming
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 01:35:40
February 06 2014 01:30 GMT
#8545
On February 05 2014 21:51 PVJ wrote:
This was so silly. Loved every panel of it!

"SWOOOSH I don't fear you do you fear me now that I'm dead?"

"I'm a frozen pizza in a refrigirator BANG"

"BOOM My sword doesn't even make sense anymore RATATATATA"



LOL nicely summed up what i had in mind.

On a serious note, my concern is that when your temperature dropped that low...how the hell can she still see anything (just ignore all other organs for the moment caused' only eyes are directly exposed to the air).
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 03:35:49
February 06 2014 03:27 GMT
#8546
Now that I think about it, when Sodde no Shirayuki was walking around in the Zunpukuto spirit arc she would touch stuff and it would freeze... so I don't think this power is as ass-pulled as I originally thought...

What I'm coming to realise is that there is a difference in the ability and power of the zunpukuto spirit and the wielders maturity, ability and knowledge of how to manifest those abilities and that power. However, that does break the concept that the shinigami imprints their soul on an asauchi.... meaning, the imprint is smarter than the shinigami creating that imprint... doesn't make sense... The only way this would make sense is if there were several Zunpukuto spirits floating around and the spirit chose the Shinigami with which he would build a partnership. Perhaps we have an error in translation here... because I rememember in one of the movies Toshiro and some other dude had the same zunpukuto and they said one of them would have to give up their sword because two people are not allowed to wield the same zunpukuto... and then Kyoraky kept going on about how Toshiro has a unique sword that appears once in a decade. So, which is it... are zunpukuto free spirits that chose their opponents and hence understand all their abilities from having honed them with their previous shinigami... OR are zunpukuto an imprint of the shinigami's soul and if so why do they know more about the shinigami's power than the shinigami himself?

Anyways, when's Zaraki fighting again? Can't ichigo just arrive already...

I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 06 2014 03:31 GMT
#8547
The whole logic of her sword I can sort of understand if I just agree that she trained herself to be able to withstand her sword's power. Her reishi acts like a sort shield, pretty much. What I don't get is where the dances are. Previously, all her powers were dances. Now, it's as if her sword is really different than how it used to be. Makes sense for Renji, but don't see any explanation for her.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 03:37:22
February 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#8548
My brain was itching right till I thought of this:

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[image loading]


Good metaphor for Bleach at this point. BTW guys, watch Top Gear.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 03:46:08
February 06 2014 03:40 GMT
#8549
On February 06 2014 12:31 Dark_Chill wrote:
The whole logic of her sword I can sort of understand if I just agree that she trained herself to be able to withstand her sword's power. Her reishi acts like a sort shield, pretty much. What I don't get is where the dances are. Previously, all her powers were dances. Now, it's as if her sword is really different than how it used to be. Makes sense for Renji, but don't see any explanation for her.


The dances are just a way Rukkia previously controlled her sword and manifested it's powers. There are previous instances where, like for example Yumichika, zunpukuto respond and manifest different powers based on their wielders instruction. The dances may not be gone, she may have just discoevered another way, a more complete way, to manifest her sword's power. She couldn't do this before because she didn't have the training or the benefit of Ichibei telling her everything as opposed to her going through a process of self discovery and learning...


I don't think it's the fact that you CAN'T explain what Kubo does.. I think it's the way he tells the story and the completely unrefined way in which he tells it. The guy seriously needs to take some courses in story telling. However, most people think that NOT refining things is a common device to allow for "plot insertion" in the future... so, perhaps Kubo never wants to fullly explain because he wants to give himself leeway and ability to change things in future chapters... Perhaps japs are used to this way of story telling but I think it's quite clear the rest of the world doesn't agree with it. I think that's where our frustration comes from... the way Kubo is telling the story.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 06 2014 03:50 GMT
#8550
opposed to her going through a process of self discovery and learning...


you mean opposed to her actual sword going "hey heres how to use my power"
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-06 07:11:30
February 06 2014 07:10 GMT
#8551
On February 06 2014 12:50 Forikorder wrote:
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opposed to her going through a process of self discovery and learning...


you mean opposed to her actual sword going "hey heres how to use my power"


if you follow Kubo's argument... the Zunpukuto is all knowing and reveals power to the shinigami through constant communication and relationship building. Also, a zunpukuto may deem the shinigami unworthy of certain aspects of it's power and will chose to mislead its wielder.

The question still remains, who is the master... is the Zunpukuto an imprint of the wielders soul and thus grows in unison with the wileder (which is what has been explained) or is the Zunpukuto somehow a complete spirit chosing to partner with a Shinigami choosing to reveal it's power and share information as and when it deems the wielder to be worthy.. I'm still not clear on this.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 06 2014 07:44 GMT
#8552
when did rukia get so stronk
:)
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 06 2014 09:57 GMT
#8553
Maybe when the wielder of a sword makes the imprint, his personality splits and one half becomes part of the sword. Thus the sword spirit finding very quickly what he can do and then deciding whether or not to tell his wielder.


And I don't think japanese people(not "japs", in which decade were you born) especially like this kind of story telling either. I have no numbers on hand but its popularity has been declining for a long time. Sadly this is still enough to be Kubo's meal ticket.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
February 07 2014 18:18 GMT
#8554
As ridiculous as it was, you have to admit Rukia was pretty badass ... lets just hope her badassness doesn't get blown away in a second again by the next opponent who shows up (finger-fire-dude?).
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 09 2014 23:54 GMT
#8555
I couldn't put my finger on it first, but I found it.

Similar to the fight where Rukia was immune to fear because she stopped living because of the cold that made her molecules not move anymore. This fight is from One Piece though, but I prefer the explanation of the powers better.
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2568-16/one-piece/chapter-461.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2568-17/one-piece/chapter-461.html
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Basically touchin the ghosts makes you pessimistic and drains your will fight/live. The character Usopp is immune because he already is pessimistic.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-10 00:20:25
February 10 2014 00:19 GMT
#8556
It's not something new as a narrative device, especially when it comes to comedic works. But what sets Rukia's case apart is that it's trying to be scientific about it, and "explain" that her being dead also makes her fearless. Had she just said she was temporarily undead, I might have kept my suspension of disbelief active. But just technically dead, and still conscious/sentient/moving around? Fuck that.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 12 2014 06:29 GMT
#8557
http://www.mangapanda.com/bleach/568

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More fear talk and she transforms into something that reminds me of Silent Hill. At least Byakuya is back.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12886 Posts
February 12 2014 06:34 GMT
#8558
I actually like this villain a lot, the design is very nice
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
February 12 2014 06:39 GMT
#8559
Figures Rukia couldn't actually defeat anybody without getting hurt.
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
February 12 2014 06:54 GMT
#8560
I feel like bleach chapters are getting shorter...
I need a new quote...
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