On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
Gin's not dead, that was a clone of Gin that Aizen made 100000000 years ago because he knew that Gin would one day betray him, and then Gin will show up later to save whats-her-tits that was in love with him the whole time.
Ichigo's mom isn't even dead, the only things that die in Bleach are Hollows.
I figured it out! The random feet that put a sword to Urahara's face 6 months ago (and still hasn't been revealed) is Gin!
oh my god has anyone thought of that? It could even happen -_-
realistically, you'll never know what happened/ uruhara will just appear randomly later tbh
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
what about rukia, chad, renji, ichigo, byakuya, kenpachi, hikari and etc? all of these chars should be dead right now, especially byakuya who had his death milked to all hell. kenpachi also should be dead after fighting bach, but instead they are alive and are just in comas? Hikari was chopped in half from the waste up ffs and she still lived. same thing with hisuguya who was cut in half vertically.
lets not forget the amount of ppl that lived PURELY because of orihimeis powers being used in the most convenient of times.
CC will be back and they will pull some "like a phoenix reborned from the ashes" BS to explain it. thats how bleach rolls. deal with it.
On November 10 2012 05:39 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:30 arbitrationus wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:20 Collings wrote:
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
and tousen, but he was black. black guys always die in both movies and mangas apprently.
tousen =/= good guy
well he was a cool guy with nice design, background, character, motifs, abilities, one of the guys who got me into liking the original series. (I consider SS and the arrancar arc as that, everything after that was pretty much random shit from kubo)
all this makes me wonder where the fox guy is, I can barely remember the last time he did anything.
On November 10 2012 09:56 Collings wrote:Do you have any hard evidential proof that the CC is dead? No, you do not. Kubo can just pull shit out of his ass like diarrhea explaining later that he is still alive and there's nothing you can do about it.
Remember how Kenpachi and Byakuya were meant to be dead too?
Remember how someone got chopped in half?
Incineration? Pfft. Get real. More like, his body 'disappeared'. Yeah, as if that means shit in Bleach.
The only hard evidential proof I have is the manga itself, last two or three chapters to be exact. The only hard evidential proof you seem to have is that growing rage in the pit of your stomach that Kubo actually ended CC permanently in the most brutal of fashions. You may be right though, maybe it wasnt the massive quincy explosion that incinerated his body, maybe his lower body just happened to flash step away from the explosion at the last second. His upper body, thats a tougher pickle.
You haven't dealt with the permanency of CC's death yet. Deal with it.
Also, Kenpachi not meant to be dead, just really badly hurt. Byakuya said he wasnt going to make it, but being all seriously wounded and guilt-ridden about his condition and that of Soul Society, I wouldnt exactly call him an authority on Shinagami mortality at the moment.
On November 10 2012 09:56 Collings wrote:Do you have any hard evidential proof that the CC is dead? No, you do not. Kubo can just pull shit out of his ass like diarrhea explaining later that he is still alive and there's nothing you can do about it.
Remember how Kenpachi and Byakuya were meant to be dead too?
Remember how someone got chopped in half?
Incineration? Pfft. Get real. More like, his body 'disappeared'. Yeah, as if that means shit in Bleach.
The only hard evidential proof I have is the manga itself, last two or three chapters to be exact. The only hard evidential proof you seem to have is that growing rage in the pit of your stomach that Kubo actually ended CC permanently in the most brutal of fashions. You may be right though, maybe it wasnt the massive quincy explosion that incinerated his body, maybe his lower body just happened to flash step away from the explosion at the last second. His upper body, thats a tougher pickle.
You haven't dealt with the permanency of CC's death yet. Deal with it.
Also, Kenpachi not meant to be dead, just really badly hurt. Byakuya said he wasnt going to make it, but being all seriously wounded and guilt-ridden about his condition and that of Soul Society, I wouldnt exactly call him an authority on Shinagami mortality at the moment.
Aizen could have only made Bach think CC was dead when he wasnt
On November 10 2012 09:56 Collings wrote:Do you have any hard evidential proof that the CC is dead? No, you do not. Kubo can just pull shit out of his ass like diarrhea explaining later that he is still alive and there's nothing you can do about it.
Remember how Kenpachi and Byakuya were meant to be dead too?
Remember how someone got chopped in half?
Incineration? Pfft. Get real. More like, his body 'disappeared'. Yeah, as if that means shit in Bleach.
The only hard evidential proof I have is the manga itself, last two or three chapters to be exact. The only hard evidential proof you seem to have is that growing rage in the pit of your stomach that Kubo actually ended CC permanently in the most brutal of fashions. You may be right though, maybe it wasnt the massive quincy explosion that incinerated his body, maybe his lower body just happened to flash step away from the explosion at the last second. His upper body, thats a tougher pickle.
You haven't dealt with the permanency of CC's death yet. Deal with it.
Also, Kenpachi not meant to be dead, just really badly hurt. Byakuya said he wasnt going to make it, but being all seriously wounded and guilt-ridden about his condition and that of Soul Society, I wouldnt exactly call him an authority on Shinagami mortality at the moment.
Dude, Rangiku survived having most of her internal organs and part of her spine removed by the big monster thing during Karakura invasion. Hiyori literally survived being cut in half and the fall out of the sky that followed.
Incineration? Dude's sword was made of fire, I bet he didn't even feel it.
On November 10 2012 09:56 Collings wrote:Do you have any hard evidential proof that the CC is dead? No, you do not. Kubo can just pull shit out of his ass like diarrhea explaining later that he is still alive and there's nothing you can do about it.
Remember how Kenpachi and Byakuya were meant to be dead too?
Remember how someone got chopped in half?
Incineration? Pfft. Get real. More like, his body 'disappeared'. Yeah, as if that means shit in Bleach.
The only hard evidential proof I have is the manga itself, last two or three chapters to be exact. The only hard evidential proof you seem to have is that growing rage in the pit of your stomach that Kubo actually ended CC permanently in the most brutal of fashions. You may be right though, maybe it wasnt the massive quincy explosion that incinerated his body, maybe his lower body just happened to flash step away from the explosion at the last second. His upper body, thats a tougher pickle.
You haven't dealt with the permanency of CC's death yet. Deal with it.
Also, Kenpachi not meant to be dead, just really badly hurt. Byakuya said he wasnt going to make it, but being all seriously wounded and guilt-ridden about his condition and that of Soul Society, I wouldnt exactly call him an authority on Shinagami mortality at the moment.
Believe me, I want the CC dead. I want all the characters in Bleach dead. It is a shit manga, and the reason I wouldn't be as foolish as you to make the call that a character is dead is because it would be like going out with a hot babe with fantastic, juicy tits thinking that she goes to Church every Sunday and isn't going to cheat on you. If you think the CC is dead then put your money on it. His upper body could have easily 'flash handstanded' away. As someone else mentioned, Aizen could have simply made everyone think he's gone. Chances are, there will be a future scene where that big hat captain who's always wearing flowery clothing and that white haired captain are both almost defeated, and then CC will appear and be like: "Did I teach you two to give up?" And then reboost their moral to kill the bad guy.
On November 10 2012 09:56 Collings wrote:Do you have any hard evidential proof that the CC is dead? No, you do not. Kubo can just pull shit out of his ass like diarrhea explaining later that he is still alive and there's nothing you can do about it.
Remember how Kenpachi and Byakuya were meant to be dead too?
Remember how someone got chopped in half?
Incineration? Pfft. Get real. More like, his body 'disappeared'. Yeah, as if that means shit in Bleach.
The only hard evidential proof I have is the manga itself, last two or three chapters to be exact. The only hard evidential proof you seem to have is that growing rage in the pit of your stomach that Kubo actually ended CC permanently in the most brutal of fashions. You may be right though, maybe it wasnt the massive quincy explosion that incinerated his body, maybe his lower body just happened to flash step away from the explosion at the last second. His upper body, thats a tougher pickle.
You haven't dealt with the permanency of CC's death yet. Deal with it.
Also, Kenpachi not meant to be dead, just really badly hurt. Byakuya said he wasnt going to make it, but being all seriously wounded and guilt-ridden about his condition and that of Soul Society, I wouldnt exactly call him an authority on Shinagami mortality at the moment.
Believe me, I want the CC dead. I want all the characters in Bleach dead. It is a shit manga, and the reason I wouldn't be as foolish as you to make the call that a character is dead is because it would be like going out with a hot babe with fantastic, juicy tits thinking that she goes to Church every Sunday and isn't going to cheat on you. If you think the CC is dead then put your money on it. His upper body could have easily 'flash handstanded' away. As someone else mentioned, Aizen could have simply made everyone think he's gone. Chances are, there will be a future scene where that big hat captain who's always wearing flowery clothing and that white haired captain are both almost defeated, and then CC will appear and be like: "Did I teach you two to give up?" And then reboost their moral to kill the bad guy.
So because you hate this manga and anyone who thinks otherwise is foolish, also equates to making all woman with big chests to be whores who don't go to church.
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
what about rukia, chad, renji, ichigo, byakuya, kenpachi, hikari and etc? all of these chars should be dead right now, especially byakuya who had his death milked to all hell. kenpachi also should be dead after fighting bach, but instead they are alive and are just in comas? Hikari was chopped in half from the waste up ffs and she still lived. same thing with hisuguya who was cut in half vertically.
lets not forget the amount of ppl that lived PURELY because of orihimeis powers being used in the most convenient of times.
CC will be back and they will pull some "like a phoenix reborned from the ashes" BS to explain it. thats how bleach rolls. deal with it.
On November 10 2012 05:39 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:30 arbitrationus wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:20 Collings wrote:
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
and tousen, but he was black. black guys always die in both movies and mangas apprently.
tousen =/= good guy
depends on your definition of good
anyone who was working with Aizen for any reason but "to kill him" is not a good guy
Tousen, was not with Aizen to kill him
erego hes not a good guy
tousen was another guy that became corrupted and fooled by aizens words. he became truly blind to his real justice and he did not realize this till after his fight with kira and komamaru. he became good towards the end of that fight and when aizen noticed he was no longer blind to the real truth he killed him. the entire deal with tousen is pretty much the irony of him not being able to see his own true sense of justice because of all the shit aizen fed him. this irony becomes even stronger and obvious when he is able to physically see in his hollow form.
so tousen was still technically a good guy, but he was just fooled by aizen in the same way aizen fooled everyone in soul soceity. especially that hinamori chick who was so horny for aizen that she almost killed hisuguya (but she was to weak)
on top of that tousen was a pretty cool character with interesting abilities. he use to be one of my fav till kubo screwed him over.
On November 11 2012 09:57 Forumite wrote: I miss Ichimaru Gin.
My god, I wish Gin never died. After Aizen beat Ichigo's dad and company, I had no idea what was going to happen. When Gin killed Aizen, I was happy, and I was wondering what Kubo would do with his character, since we really didn't know much about him. I really want Gin back, I don't even care if Kubo does something completely retarded to get him back, but just something.
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
what about rukia, chad, renji, ichigo, byakuya, kenpachi, hikari and etc? all of these chars should be dead right now, especially byakuya who had his death milked to all hell. kenpachi also should be dead after fighting bach, but instead they are alive and are just in comas? Hikari was chopped in half from the waste up ffs and she still lived. same thing with hisuguya who was cut in half vertically.
lets not forget the amount of ppl that lived PURELY because of orihimeis powers being used in the most convenient of times.
CC will be back and they will pull some "like a phoenix reborned from the ashes" BS to explain it. thats how bleach rolls. deal with it.
On November 10 2012 05:39 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:30 arbitrationus wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:20 Collings wrote:
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
and tousen, but he was black. black guys always die in both movies and mangas apprently.
tousen =/= good guy
depends on your definition of good
anyone who was working with Aizen for any reason but "to kill him" is not a good guy
Tousen, was not with Aizen to kill him
erego hes not a good guy
tousen was another guy that became corrupted and fooled by aizens words. he became truly blind to his real justice and he did not realize this till after his fight with kira and komamaru. he became good towards the end of that fight and when aizen noticed he was no longer blind to the real truth he killed him. the entire deal with tousen is pretty much the irony of him not being able to see his own true sense of justice because of all the shit aizen fed him. this irony becomes even stronger and obvious when he is able to physically see in his hollow form.
so tousen was still technically a good guy, but he was just fooled by aizen in the same way aizen fooled everyone in soul soceity. especially that hinamori chick who was so horny for aizen that she almost killed hisuguya (but she was to weak)
on top of that tousen was a pretty cool character with interesting abilities. he use to be one of my fav till kubo screwed him over.
having an epiphany on your death bed does not make you a good guy
being stupid does not make you a good guy
Tosen could have stopped all of Aizens plans by tattling but he didnt
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
what about rukia, chad, renji, ichigo, byakuya, kenpachi, hikari and etc? all of these chars should be dead right now, especially byakuya who had his death milked to all hell. kenpachi also should be dead after fighting bach, but instead they are alive and are just in comas? Hikari was chopped in half from the waste up ffs and she still lived. same thing with hisuguya who was cut in half vertically.
lets not forget the amount of ppl that lived PURELY because of orihimeis powers being used in the most convenient of times.
CC will be back and they will pull some "like a phoenix reborned from the ashes" BS to explain it. thats how bleach rolls. deal with it.
On November 10 2012 05:39 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:30 arbitrationus wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:20 Collings wrote:
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
and tousen, but he was black. black guys always die in both movies and mangas apprently.
tousen =/= good guy
depends on your definition of good
anyone who was working with Aizen for any reason but "to kill him" is not a good guy
Tousen, was not with Aizen to kill him
erego hes not a good guy
tousen was another guy that became corrupted and fooled by aizens words. he became truly blind to his real justice and he did not realize this till after his fight with kira and komamaru. he became good towards the end of that fight and when aizen noticed he was no longer blind to the real truth he killed him. the entire deal with tousen is pretty much the irony of him not being able to see his own true sense of justice because of all the shit aizen fed him. this irony becomes even stronger and obvious when he is able to physically see in his hollow form.
so tousen was still technically a good guy, but he was just fooled by aizen in the same way aizen fooled everyone in soul soceity. especially that hinamori chick who was so horny for aizen that she almost killed hisuguya (but she was to weak)
on top of that tousen was a pretty cool character with interesting abilities. he use to be one of my fav till kubo screwed him over.
having an epiphany on your death bed does not make you a good guy
being stupid does not make you a good guy
Tosen could have stopped all of Aizens plans by tattling but he didnt
BS because gin could have done the same thing. sure gin was the ultimate good guy at the end, but he still killed and tried to kill a shit ton of ppl. the only person he truly cared about was rangiku and the only reason he tried to kill aizen at all was because aizen hurt rangiku when they were younger.
and whats more BS is that u think aizens plans would have been stoped just by ratting him out to CC.
On November 08 2012 06:52 arbitrationus wrote: That, ORRRRRRRRRRR, you failed to read the part where the Quincy leader evaporated him completely with an explosion after cutting him in half, JUST so this very thing couldn't happen.
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
what about rukia, chad, renji, ichigo, byakuya, kenpachi, hikari and etc? all of these chars should be dead right now, especially byakuya who had his death milked to all hell. kenpachi also should be dead after fighting bach, but instead they are alive and are just in comas? Hikari was chopped in half from the waste up ffs and she still lived. same thing with hisuguya who was cut in half vertically.
lets not forget the amount of ppl that lived PURELY because of orihimeis powers being used in the most convenient of times.
CC will be back and they will pull some "like a phoenix reborned from the ashes" BS to explain it. thats how bleach rolls. deal with it.
On November 10 2012 05:39 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:30 arbitrationus wrote:
On November 08 2012 08:20 Collings wrote: [quote]
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
and tousen, but he was black. black guys always die in both movies and mangas apprently.
tousen =/= good guy
depends on your definition of good
anyone who was working with Aizen for any reason but "to kill him" is not a good guy
Tousen, was not with Aizen to kill him
erego hes not a good guy
tousen was another guy that became corrupted and fooled by aizens words. he became truly blind to his real justice and he did not realize this till after his fight with kira and komamaru. he became good towards the end of that fight and when aizen noticed he was no longer blind to the real truth he killed him. the entire deal with tousen is pretty much the irony of him not being able to see his own true sense of justice because of all the shit aizen fed him. this irony becomes even stronger and obvious when he is able to physically see in his hollow form.
so tousen was still technically a good guy, but he was just fooled by aizen in the same way aizen fooled everyone in soul soceity. especially that hinamori chick who was so horny for aizen that she almost killed hisuguya (but she was to weak)
on top of that tousen was a pretty cool character with interesting abilities. he use to be one of my fav till kubo screwed him over.
having an epiphany on your death bed does not make you a good guy
being stupid does not make you a good guy
Tosen could have stopped all of Aizens plans by tattling but he didnt
BS because gin could have done the same thing. sure gin was the ultimate good guy at the end, but he still killed and tried to kill a shit ton of ppl. the only person he truly cared about was rangiku and the only reason he tried to kill aizen at all was because aizen hurt rangiku when they were younger.
no he couldnt have, only tosen was unnafected by Aizens illusions and could point out wahts fake and whats real Gin has no way of knowing where Aizen really is
That doesn't mean shit. In Bleach, completely killing someone simply means they come back and say: "Aha, you thought you killed me, but I actually used this special power making you think you killed me, when all this time I was reserving my final power." Swap sides, rinse and repeat several times with a lot of shit talking and new powers, so long as the good guy has the last word.
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
what about rukia, chad, renji, ichigo, byakuya, kenpachi, hikari and etc? all of these chars should be dead right now, especially byakuya who had his death milked to all hell. kenpachi also should be dead after fighting bach, but instead they are alive and are just in comas? Hikari was chopped in half from the waste up ffs and she still lived. same thing with hisuguya who was cut in half vertically.
lets not forget the amount of ppl that lived PURELY because of orihimeis powers being used in the most convenient of times.
CC will be back and they will pull some "like a phoenix reborned from the ashes" BS to explain it. thats how bleach rolls. deal with it.
On November 10 2012 05:39 Kazeyonoma wrote:
On November 10 2012 05:30 arbitrationus wrote: [quote]
You mixed up your general nerdrage with what couldve been a valid point, had you provided some evidence. And no, a minor offshoot charecter that works for a captain lvl shinagami doesnt count. Two instances of this happening in Bleach, where a charecter is completely "killed" and returns because of some unforeseen ability, does not make it a norm.
Aizen came back, because his powers (unrevealed at that point) rested on illusions and deception. Once this was revealed, it was perfectly reasonable for him to have "returned".
CC on the other hand, has had the full extent of his power revealed to the readers. Everything he had was placed on the table. There is no hidden illusion or trick. He was destroyed in one on one combat versus Bach, and his body was completely incinerated so there was no possible way a return could happen. I know CC was loved by pretty much everybody, but its time you moved on and stopped coupling your gripes with Bleach with the inevitable hope that CC is not dead. He is dead, he isnt coming back, deal with it.
Quoting this now because in a few chapters, if/when CC returns, we can point to this and tell him i told you so. This is Kubo, this is Bleach, NO ONE GOOD DIES except Gin
and tousen, but he was black. black guys always die in both movies and mangas apprently.
tousen =/= good guy
depends on your definition of good
anyone who was working with Aizen for any reason but "to kill him" is not a good guy
Tousen, was not with Aizen to kill him
erego hes not a good guy
tousen was another guy that became corrupted and fooled by aizens words. he became truly blind to his real justice and he did not realize this till after his fight with kira and komamaru. he became good towards the end of that fight and when aizen noticed he was no longer blind to the real truth he killed him. the entire deal with tousen is pretty much the irony of him not being able to see his own true sense of justice because of all the shit aizen fed him. this irony becomes even stronger and obvious when he is able to physically see in his hollow form.
so tousen was still technically a good guy, but he was just fooled by aizen in the same way aizen fooled everyone in soul soceity. especially that hinamori chick who was so horny for aizen that she almost killed hisuguya (but she was to weak)
on top of that tousen was a pretty cool character with interesting abilities. he use to be one of my fav till kubo screwed him over.
having an epiphany on your death bed does not make you a good guy
being stupid does not make you a good guy
Tosen could have stopped all of Aizens plans by tattling but he didnt
BS because gin could have done the same thing. sure gin was the ultimate good guy at the end, but he still killed and tried to kill a shit ton of ppl. the only person he truly cared about was rangiku and the only reason he tried to kill aizen at all was because aizen hurt rangiku when they were younger.
no he couldnt have, only tosen was unnafected by Aizens illusions and could point out wahts fake and whats real Gin has no way of knowing where Aizen really is
aizen knew this already which was the exact reason he recruited tosen to his team. u really think someone of aizens intellect wouldnt constantly have his eyes on tosen? there was no way in hell tousen would have gotten away with simply ratting him out to CC and company. no one would beleive him anyway because of aizens OP sword even if he did rat.
you also have to understand that tousens dear friend was killed because of the shinigami. aizen knew this and manipulated him into joining him for a greater good. tousen was under the impression that by joining aizen he was doing the right thing, but he was instead corrupted.
EPT
So now I read it.
