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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 07 2018 16:12 GMT
#7981
On March 08 2018 01:01 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Right annihilation is one i also wanna see, i really liked ex machina. I am simply not sure if i want to read the book first though

I hear they are quite different from a couple friends who read it and saw the film. I think you could do it in any order and not impact your enjoyment.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 14:40:14
March 07 2018 16:24 GMT
#7982
I mean i don't really think spoiling myself one way or another is a big deal either way, but usually i want to read the book first and then watch the movie. Not sure if i wanna wait that long though (reading other stuff atm)


Quoting my Shape of Water post for better visibility :D

On March 08 2018 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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The Shape of Water

I thought i should check this one out after the oscars and so i did.
First off: One has to look at this movie as some form of fairytale otherwise the plot doesn't make much sense.
We follow a mute lady who works as a cleaning power at some secret US labatory. One day a new test object arrives, the monster, our main character elisa finds it, is fascinated by it and vists it more often and ultimately falls in love with it.
There is also a sideplot going on which creates the drama.
Visually this movie is amazing, i can understand why it won the oscar for set design (even though bladerunner would have been my favorite there), our main character is charming, the plot is ok. The acting performances are fine, nothing outstanding though. As i said at the beginning, you really have to look at this as some kind of fairytale to really appreciate it, it's definitely executed like one though (the story even starts with a narrator).
It has its own charm, reminds me a little bit of amélie fused with del toro's pan's labyrinth. Sadly both mentioned movies are imo better, do more with the stylistic choice and therefore create more of that magical feeling (the music in shape of water does help though, it's definitely magical).


I think it was a good movie, would definitely recommend checking it out but i don't understand the hype around it.

7.5/10

IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
March 07 2018 16:51 GMT
#7983
On March 08 2018 01:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Quoting my Shape of Water post for better visibility :D

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 00:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
[image loading]

The Shape of Water

I thought i should check this one out after the oscars and so i did.
First off: One has to look at this movie as some form of fairytale otherwise the plot doesn't make much sense.
We follow a mute lady who works as a cleaning power at some secret US labatory. One day a new test object arrives, the monster, our main character elisa finds it, is fascinated by it and vists it more often and ultimately falls in love with it.
There is also a sideplot going on which creates the drama.
Visually this movie is amazing, i can understand why it won the oscar for set design (even though bladerunner would have been my favorite there), our main character is charming, the plot is ok. The acting performances are fine, nothing outstanding though. As i said at the beginning, you really have to look at this as some kind of fairytale to really appreciate it, it's definitely executed like one though (the story even starts with a narrator).
It has its own charm, reminds me a little bit of amélie fused with del toro's pan's labyrinth. Sadly both mentioned movies are imo better, do more with the stylistic choice and therefore create more of that magical feeling (the music in shape of water does help though, it's definitely magical).

I think it was a good movie, would definitely recommend checking it out but i don't understand the hype around it.

7.5-8/10


You're quoting your own post from the previous page so more people will read it..?

So um with the academy awards and what I personally thought was a pretty lame year for films behind us, anyone got any hype for some movies due in 2018? I really wanna hit the cinema some more this year
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
March 07 2018 17:00 GMT
#7984
Academy awards are always lame, it celebrates movies most people don't like.

Infinity war is the culmination of ten years and 18 movies so thats got to be some hype. It'll probably be a huge mess but the amount of money and planning behind it has to at least give an avengers two sort of vibe.

theres a ton of movies this year that can go either way though. Latino spider man xmen venom fantastic beasts two pacific rim deadpool 2 and incredibles two can just as easily be meh as much as hype.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 07 2018 17:05 GMT
#7985
The Academy awards are Hollywood giving awards to itself for reasons that the academy values at that given time. This is why LaLa land was thought to be a shoe in, right up until the amazing moment when Moonlight(the vastly superior and more arresting film) really won.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 07 2018 17:06 GMT
#7986
Academy awards surely have their flaws, basically only american movies are considered, some categories are basically worthless (animated feature for example) and the voting process in general could need some work.
Still, usually the nominations have their merit and most people not enjoying the movies being celebrated there is more a flaw of the people in my honest opinion


About 2018, i don't know yet. Usually i get hyped for new movies by certain directors moreso than for anything else. Need to still do some research if/what's in the work there.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 07 2018 17:33 GMT
#7987
I used to hate award shows until Linda Holmes pointed out that they are a great way to see how Hollywood, or any industry, feels about itself. I enjoy observing them in that context. And its a good way to hear about movies that I might never hear of.
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seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 09:25:58
March 07 2018 18:08 GMT
#7988
On March 08 2018 01:51 Warfie wrote:
So um with the academy awards and what I personally thought was a pretty lame year for films behind us, anyone got any hype for some movies due in 2018? I really wanna hit the cinema some more this year


2017 wasn't that bad. Good Time, Logan, The Night is Short Walk on Girl, Get Out, Raw, John Wick 2, A Taxi Driver and Atomic Blonde were all solid offerings imo.

the "academy" is a fucking joke, and why anyone but the most rabid fashionista would care is beyond me.


edit (2018 hype): The Incredibles 2 and Deadpool 2 could be good. judging by the trailer the new Mission Impossible looks like it might be worth checking out too (a rare franchise that keeps getting better and better imo). potential new offerings from Harmony Korine, Wes Anderson and Paul Verhoven as well.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 08 2018 07:33 GMT
#7989
On March 08 2018 01:51 Warfie wrote:
So um with the academy awards and what I personally thought was a pretty lame year for films behind us, anyone got any hype for some movies due in 2018? I really wanna hit the cinema some more this year


Heard great buzz over You Were Never Really Here. Should be a taut thriller (~90 minutes) with no bloat.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
seom
Profile Joined January 2013
South Africa491 Posts
March 08 2018 09:37 GMT
#7990
On March 08 2018 16:33 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 01:51 Warfie wrote:
So um with the academy awards and what I personally thought was a pretty lame year for films behind us, anyone got any hype for some movies due in 2018? I really wanna hit the cinema some more this year


Heard great buzz over You Were Never Really Here. Should be a taut thriller (~90 minutes) with no bloat.


this looks potentially awesome, thanks for the heads-up.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 08 2018 14:16 GMT
#7991
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Pan's Labyrinth

Rewatched this because of Shape of Water. This movie plays in the 1940s in spain after the civil war. Our main character is a little girl named Ofelia whose mother wed the military captain Vidal. She and her pregnant mother arrive at Vidal's current location and the story begins. Ofelia likes to read fairytales and during her stay at the new place magical things happen around her. The story around Vidal who hunts down rebels is the b-plot.
What can i say, imo this is definitely superior to Shape of Water. From a technical point of view the new movie has the edge cgi wise, but Pan's Labyrinth still looks amazing, the art/creature design is fabulous, the cinematography on point. More importantly though, the story is more mature, more fantastic, gives you more room to interprete it and the characters feel more real as well. The side plot in this movie is a lot more interesting, in general it focuses on these two main storylines while Shape of Water adds a little bit too much noise in other places.
Pan's Labyrinth is a dark (i have to stress this, it's definitely a fairytale for adults), magical experience and del toro's best work to date.

9/10
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
March 08 2018 14:21 GMT
#7992
The stuttering scene is truly a masterpiece in itself, so brutal to watch.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9812 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 14:39:11
March 08 2018 14:37 GMT
#7993
Am I the only person who thinks that Del Toro's best movie is Hellboy 2?
I'm prepared for the answer to that to be yes.

Pan's Labyrinth is very good, but I wasn't a fan of the Shape of Water.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10873 Posts
March 08 2018 14:44 GMT
#7994
His best work was obviously Pacific Rim.
I'm prepared to elbowrocket people that disagree.

Hellboy 2 was a very fun movie... But better than Pan's Labyrinth?... You mad?
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9812 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 14:48:21
March 08 2018 14:47 GMT
#7995
On March 08 2018 23:44 Velr wrote:
His best work was obviously Pacific Rim.
I'm prepared to elbowrocket people that disagree.

Hellboy 2 was a very fun movie... But better than Pan's Labyrinth?... You mad?


Yeah quite possibly I'm mad.
Maybe its due to the context of Pan's Labyrinth being another horribly bleak and dark movie that came out at a time when all the movies were horribly dark and bleak.
I haven't seen it in a long time, maybe I would prefer it now.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
March 08 2018 18:07 GMT
#7996
GDT has this great ability of making movies that arn't ment to be "great movies" but are intended to be about a specific thing. In Pacific rim he made a generally shitty movie but it had amazing giant robot vs giant monster fighting. You shouldn't judge Pacific rim based on its story but on its robot vs monster fighting.

I look at pacific rim 2 and I see the squeals choice was to double down on the robot vs monster fighting. the movie overall might be meh but the robot vs monster fighting is what its about. Pans labyrinth Is a arthouse movie thats not up its own ass. I admit that arthouse movies might have some good ones among them but they're more impenetrable then Warhammer 40k.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1770 Posts
March 09 2018 07:56 GMT
#7997
Pan's Labyrinth is great. The historical part I enjoyed. The fantasy part is interesting and ultimately fit well with the movie. The villain was excellently played - brutal but calculated. Some scenes are too violent though.
Leee Jaee Doong
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12702 Posts
March 09 2018 13:48 GMT
#7998
I like Pan's Labyrinth for the same reason I like Big Fish.
You just don't know how much is fantasy and how much is actually going on in objective reality.

It makes for such an interesting world, and a reminder that we don't "just" live in objective reality, we experience it subjectively.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
March 12 2018 06:11 GMT
#7999
The Outsider

Good movie and amazing cinematography. The dialogue from Jared Leto was minimal, but his intensity in this movie was amazing. The Japanese actors and actresses were impressive as well, flowing from English to Japanese pretty smoothly. I highly recommend this if you have 2 hours to spare. 9/10
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 12 2018 14:11 GMT
#8000
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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind


We follow our shy main protagonist Joel who meets the extroverted Clementine on a train. They immediately like each other and start dating. As time goes on problems arise and Clementine - like the impulsive person she is - visits a firm which can erase memories, the memories of Joel.
This movie is about love, relationships, memory, living in the moment, trust, among other things. It's beautifully done, i don't wanna spoil anything but the writing is superb and especially our main characters Joel (Jim Carry) and Clementine (Kate Winslet) are a treat to watch, excellent performances.
There is also a little side plot about people of the memory erasing company, very well done as well and ties into the main themes. It's a beautiful movie and everyone should watch it at least once.

9/10



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Raw

Vegetarian Justine starts her time at the veterinary school her parents went to (and sister is attending atm). Her being a rookie she has to go through some rituals the older students run, like being splattered in blood or eating a raw rabbit kidney. After eating that raw meat she feels really bad, gets a rash and suddenly appears to have a ravenous appetite for meat. Not only the meat of animals though...
At its core it's a coming of age story, the naive girl visits college and learns that life is more than just books. The first sex, drugs, party, etc. This movie shocks though, the imagery is sometimes really gross but never over the top gratuitous. All the themes are well developed, the acting performances are good to great (justine) and the movie just immerses you well.
My only real problem is the writing here and there, i think it gets unbelievable in some instances and even though these elements are usually used as a metaphor, i think the core story should still make sense because it's not portrayed as a movie where you have to interprete everything. (though you definitely can look deeper into this one, which explains the high score )

8/10
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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