Movie Discussion! - Page 218

On February 15 2013 11:16 N.geNuity wrote:


easy A and devil wears prada are good (though devil wears prada is a comedy-drama).

but holy shit you made me realise how terrible/few girl comedies there actually are

On February 11 2013 09:10 obesechicken13 wrote:

Pretty much all of it.

It's hard to prove my point without video evidence so the dance scene is good evidence. No one just dances like that in real life. And high class people most certainly don't just do what they did in the scene either. A film where a high school teacher gets a group of his students really motivated about their lives through hard work and sacrifice would make a lot of people feel good too, but it'd be unrealistic, and slightly overdone.


Just to give an example of how this movie exaggerates everything, the person Driss is based off of is actually very light skinned. French Hollywood just thought it'd be more interesting if Driss were darker skinned.

On February 16 2013 02:03 mahO wrote:


Ok I just really have to tell you how much bullshit you're saying.
About the fact that he is black... Please get out of your american mindset for a minute. In France, black people, are "immigrants", they came from Africa generally in the 60s 70s, some of them (like Driss, he says he lived his childhood in Mali if I remember) more recently, same as arabic people (Maghreb, most arab immigrants in france, at least 90% of them come from Algeria Tunisia Morocco, North Africans, not middle east), most of the immigration in France is african, on that point, black and arabs really "relate" to eachother, because they're viewed as the same by lets say "racists" people. So no, the fact that the person Driss is based off was arabic doesnt change anything except for his skin. The point stays : he's a "ghetto kid", an african immigrant, in the US an african american and a "recent" immigrant from middle east would have nothing in common talking about their background, family, in France they do, the way they are perceived by a huge part of the population is the same.
And even, the fact that he is black is an "exageration"? Are you serious? Do you realize how racist it is to consider that because his skin is DARKER, it is an EXAGERATION? French Hollywood just picked Omar Sy because he fits the role, and he did a damn good job at it, you're the one who's looking at his skin, but yes, for this role he had to be from an african origin.
And you really tried to prove that the movie is unrealistic by saying that "No one just dances like that in real life". I mean, seriously? And about that scene, there is nothing unrealistic about it, you're saying "High class people wouldnt act like that", they're not high class people, the only person being high class there is Philippe, the rest are his employees, they're not high class, they just work for him. He is the one not giving a fuck about high class standards and thats the whole point of the movie.
I mean you obviously dont know much about the background of the movie, and I dont blame you for not viewing it from an european, or even french point of view, why would I, but why instantly claim it's all "lies"? I have among my friends "ghetto kids", guys from algerian decent, or from west Africa who grew up in Paris' ghettos (suburbs) and I was really surprised at the fact that the movie isnt unrealistic, I really expected it to be a huge exageration, full of cliches, but in fact it's not, Driss, the way he behaves, talks, the few scenes in the ghettos, none of it was unrealistic (and it's a damn good surprise because ghettos in France are subject to a lot of cliches). I'm not saying the movie is amazing, I enjoyed it, not a huge fan but I enjoyed it. But please, "All of it" is unrealistic... You're gonna have to find something better than the dance scene to shit all over it dude

On February 16 2013 02:36 Khanz wrote:


Well i have to admit that the black color and the dance arguments are really not fitting to the legit criticism of Intouchables.

But he has a valid point, and that is: it's overall only clichés. The fact it was an arab in the real story and that Sy took the role means actually something. The fact the movie was only entitled to Omar Sy is a big weakness and shows how much they didn't go far about the background of each protagonists. I won't say I didn't enjoy it but it's clearly not a movie that I would suggest. And I can understand the reason why american hollywood would make a Remake of it, it fits so well to overall clichés. The viewer base of that kind of movie is clearly not ghetto suburb kids and that is what makes it wrong.

On February 16 2013 13:00 mahO wrote:


I dont get it, why is it only cliches? I really dont see why. I mean you guys are looking for cliches, you can find cliches in everything, everyone. Omar Sy was actually really good at not being a cliche in that movie, the parts that seemed unrealistic were the behaviour of the others employees, some scenes, mostly due to bad acting. But Sy was simply really convincing as an average guy from the ghetto. Im not saying all guys his age from Paris suburbs smoke hash and carry knives (well, the hash part must be higher than 50% ahah), but it was just really convincing, and whats wrong with the viewer base not being ghetto kids?
Again I'm not a fan of the movie, probably wont watch it again, its far from being a masterpiece imho, but people jump so easily on movies like this one just because its not dark enough, it pleases to the average ignorant John Doe so you have to criticize it harshly or else you're not special enough, your "intelligence" is insulted or something, I'm so tired of that mindset. My taste in cinema is quite peculiar, I love movies that most people hate, 80% of the movies I watch are really dark, depressing almost (korean movies are good at that), crime movies etc. I mean, stop being hipsters, it's a nice movie, I'm not telling you to like it, but why try and find excuses to bash it? Especially when you just cant point out a single one of those cliches... The dance scene, rofl...

But it’s also more than a little unrealistic

The lens through which the “The Intouchables” was filmed may be too rose-colored for some people’s taste, but the window that these talented performers throw open -- a window onto the strange and touching friendship between two very different men -- is crystal clear.

Driss is infectiously upbeat, as well as distastefully cliched: He ridicules high culture -- what else would a black guy from the slums do? -- replacing Phillipe's classical selections with Earth, Wind and Fire, and proceeding to "get down." If he weren't black, he'd be wearing blackface. The only way to buy into "The Intouchables," really, is by considering it ironically, or like a fairy tale -- one that uses race humor to defuse anxieties surrounding race issues. Pardon moi, but that's asking a lot, even of a post-racial society.

A box office phenomenon in France, this crowd-pleasing drama is based on a true story but sticks closely to the template for a Hollywood buddy movie.

On February 16 2013 17:12 Krychek wrote:
I saw "A Clockwork Orange" yesterday.

Really good movie, better than expected, not as legendary as some said. Very uninque, recommended 4/5.

On February 16 2013 21:36 EpiK wrote:

Machinist 8/10
It's about a guy working at a machinery factory who is suffering from insomnia. He starts having delusions and falls into a spiral of fucked up events and the majority of the film is him just scrambling around trying to make sense of it all. This has been on my to-watch queue for a while and I was not disappointed. The overall mood, music and lighting work together so well to pull you into some twisted dreamlike world. Whoever played Ivan did a terrific job, perfect balance of sleaze and charisma, and Christian Bale was also great as a sort of schizophrenic / really wired guy. If you liked Shutter Island, Memento, and Mulholland Dr. I'd highly recommend.

On February 16 2013 17:12 Krychek wrote:
I saw "A Clockwork Orange" yesterday.

Really good movie, better than expected, not as legendary as some said. Very uninque, recommended 4/5.