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CyDe
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1010 Posts
September 01 2012 21:25 GMT
#3261
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

Show nested quote +
No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.
youtube.com/GamingCyDe-- My totally abandoned youtube channel that I might revisit at some point
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2012 22:22 GMT
#3262
On September 02 2012 06:25 CyDe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.


I absolutely despise the movie. If you look back a couple of pages back of the thread, you'll find myself to be unable to contain the optimism and hype of welcoming the film into my life as various of posters have enticed me to. However speaking, I was taken into the nastiest ride that went far beyond my wildest imagination. The movie have utterly destroyed me emotionally and brought myself into physical sorrow and morose. The premise was set to be a coming of age story that I have envisioned. But before I would fully grasp about its settings and theme, the plot was already spiraling out control in an unbelievable, dark, and twisted turns. This has lead my mind to perpetually ponder on the deepest psyche of my existence. And I was simply caught in a despair of wishing to have never even visited the IMDB's movie recommendation page.

And for all the above intended reasons and purposes, I would to by all means grant this piece of 'disaster' from the director Darren Aronofsky the closest media to a perfect 10.

And as for my next warning, this movie:
[image loading]
couldn't hand a candle to the aforementioned film. Such a snoozefest.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
ob1
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada15 Posts
September 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#3263
On September 02 2012 07:22 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 06:25 CyDe wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.


I absolutely despise the movie. If you look back a couple of pages back of the thread, you'll find myself to be unable to contain the optimism and hype of welcoming the film into my life as various of posters have enticed me to. However speaking, I was taken into the nastiest ride that went far beyond my wildest imagination. The movie have utterly destroyed me emotionally and brought myself into physical sorrow and morose. The premise was set to be a coming of age story that I have envisioned. But before I would fully grasp about its settings and theme, the plot was already spiraling out control in an unbelievable, dark, and twisted turns. This has lead my mind to perpetually ponder on the deepest psyche of my existence. And I was simply caught in a despair of wishing to have never even visited the IMDB's movie recommendation page.

And for all the above intended reasons and purposes, I would to by all means grant this piece of 'disaster' from the director Darren Aronofsky the closest media to a perfect 10.

And as for my next warning, this movie:
[image loading]
couldn't hand a candle to the aforementioned film. Such a snoozefest.


Mulholland Drive is the greatest film I have seen. When I initially viewed it I wasn't sure what to make it of it, but for days I could not stop thinking about it. It is all at once a mystery, a romance, a satire and a horror film, while managing to blend it all with dream like quality. Naomi Watts also delivers one of the greatest performances of all time. A film like this is not about story but about the emotions.

Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 01 2012 23:35 GMT
#3264
On September 02 2012 08:21 ob1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 07:22 Xiphos wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:25 CyDe wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.


I absolutely despise the movie. If you look back a couple of pages back of the thread, you'll find myself to be unable to contain the optimism and hype of welcoming the film into my life as various of posters have enticed me to. However speaking, I was taken into the nastiest ride that went far beyond my wildest imagination. The movie have utterly destroyed me emotionally and brought myself into physical sorrow and morose. The premise was set to be a coming of age story that I have envisioned. But before I would fully grasp about its settings and theme, the plot was already spiraling out control in an unbelievable, dark, and twisted turns. This has lead my mind to perpetually ponder on the deepest psyche of my existence. And I was simply caught in a despair of wishing to have never even visited the IMDB's movie recommendation page.

And for all the above intended reasons and purposes, I would to by all means grant this piece of 'disaster' from the director Darren Aronofsky the closest media to a perfect 10.

And as for my next warning, this movie:
[image loading]
couldn't hand a candle to the aforementioned film. Such a snoozefest.


Mulholland Drive is the greatest film I have seen. When I initially viewed it I wasn't sure what to make it of it, but for days I could not stop thinking about it. It is all at once a mystery, a romance, a satire and a horror film, while managing to blend it all with dream like quality. Naomi Watts also delivers one of the greatest performances of all time. A film like this is not about story but about the emotions.



Imo, it was prolonged too much. Yeah the acting by Mrs. Watts was fantastic and her appearance itself have attracted me to the piece if you know what I mean However I was sort of expecting it to be more drama oriented movie with intense situations and somewhat exploring the dark secrets of the 'drive'. But now that you've mentioned key words such as "mystery, romance, a satire and horror film", I can sort of come in terms with the absurd drowsiness.

JUST get something straight though:
+ Show Spoiler +
So it is a movie about dual reality universe. One is about a rookie rising star and the other about a failed actress. And both of these surrealism reflects the life of one single central character. If this is was the premise and the message that David Lynch is trying to convey, then I feel that those two universes could be intertwined with more homogeneous substance instead of solely separating the acts.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
September 01 2012 23:44 GMT
#3265
mulholland drive was a tv series that got canceled halfway in production so lynch put it into a movie and added a few scenes... so theres like 6 lengthy scenes that have nothing to do with the plot that you have to sit through... its well made though - so its worth a watch for film lovers. requiem sucks too. they play that same song for essentially the whole movie... on topic i rewatched these two on my day off. [image loading] [image loading] City of lost children is a little gem from the same guys as amelie/delicatessen. really cool ideas and cool visuals.

Detention is my favorite movie released this year. Im a little bit of a hypocrite as this doesnt really have a cohesive plot - but i love movies that bring new styles to the medium. Heres a scene from the movie - its absoultely ridiculous. If you like donnie darko/scream/the loved ones/scottpilrim/ 80s movies in general haha. Its really one hell of a trip and hilarious. + Show Spoiler +
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 04:28:05
September 02 2012 00:01 GMT
#3266
[image loading]

Weird movie. I've wanted to watch this one for a while.

[image loading]

Blood and Bone. A fight movie where the main character is black.
Mediocre acting. Story is still pretty bad. I just skipped through it to get to the fight scenes. If you liked ip man you'll like this. The choreography is good.

Free to view on youtube as of today.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
ob1
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada15 Posts
September 02 2012 07:02 GMT
#3267
On September 02 2012 08:44 WniO wrote:
mulholland drive was a tv series that got canceled halfway in production so lynch put it into a movie and added a few scenes... so theres like 6 lengthy scenes that have nothing to do with the plot that you have to sit through... its well made though - so its worth a watch for film lovers.


The fact that it was a pilot with added scenes later on does not mean the two parts have nothing to do with each other. They work together. To me the added scenes are like a shift from a pleasant dream to a brutal nightmare.

On September 02 2012 08:35 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 08:21 ob1 wrote:
On September 02 2012 07:22 Xiphos wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:25 CyDe wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.


I absolutely despise the movie. If you look back a couple of pages back of the thread, you'll find myself to be unable to contain the optimism and hype of welcoming the film into my life as various of posters have enticed me to. However speaking, I was taken into the nastiest ride that went far beyond my wildest imagination. The movie have utterly destroyed me emotionally and brought myself into physical sorrow and morose. The premise was set to be a coming of age story that I have envisioned. But before I would fully grasp about its settings and theme, the plot was already spiraling out control in an unbelievable, dark, and twisted turns. This has lead my mind to perpetually ponder on the deepest psyche of my existence. And I was simply caught in a despair of wishing to have never even visited the IMDB's movie recommendation page.

And for all the above intended reasons and purposes, I would to by all means grant this piece of 'disaster' from the director Darren Aronofsky the closest media to a perfect 10.

And as for my next warning, this movie:
[image loading]
couldn't hand a candle to the aforementioned film. Such a snoozefest.


Mulholland Drive is the greatest film I have seen. When I initially viewed it I wasn't sure what to make it of it, but for days I could not stop thinking about it. It is all at once a mystery, a romance, a satire and a horror film, while managing to blend it all with dream like quality. Naomi Watts also delivers one of the greatest performances of all time. A film like this is not about story but about the emotions.



Imo, it was prolonged too much. Yeah the acting by Mrs. Watts was fantastic and her appearance itself have attracted me to the piece if you know what I mean However I was sort of expecting it to be more drama oriented movie with intense situations and somewhat exploring the dark secrets of the 'drive'. But now that you've mentioned key words such as "mystery, romance, a satire and horror film", I can sort of come in terms with the absurd drowsiness.

JUST get something straight though:
+ Show Spoiler +
So it is a movie about dual reality universe. One is about a rookie rising star and the other about a failed actress. And both of these surrealism reflects the life of one single central character. If this is was the premise and the message that David Lynch is trying to convey, then I feel that those two universes could be intertwined with more homogeneous substance instead of solely separating the acts.


There is no concrete explanation for what is going on and there shouldn't be. Lynch has never explained it and he shouldn't have to. Everyone's interpretation is correct. I have my own for the plot but it's not important as no matter what interpretation you have the details never all add up. All that really matters is that within it's running time it moves me, scares me, depresses me, and just hits on more emotional fronts than any other movie I've seen. It's essentially a dream, don't bother trying to put jigsaw pieces together (at least not the first time), just enjoy it.

While you're at it pretty much all of David Lynch's work is fantastic and you can see how it all led to Mulholland Drive. Do yourself a favour and check out all of it, Twin Peaks (maybe avoid Dune). Mulholland Drive is about middle of the road in it's weirdness. Inland Empire being the most challenging. Detractors of Lynch like to claim he's just fucking with people and can't do a straight up movie, but then there's The Elephant Man and The Straight Story to shut them up.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 02 2012 07:13 GMT
#3268
lol@mulholland drive snoozefest but requiem for a dream best movie ever, please have some taste before making any opinions.
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
September 02 2012 07:26 GMT
#3269
[image loading]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373981/


and currently watching
[image loading]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1534085/
a so so, weird ass movie
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 02 2012 08:52 GMT
#3270
On September 02 2012 16:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol@mulholland drive snoozefest but requiem for a dream best movie ever, please have some taste before making any opinions.


Not only does this poster do not know how to read, he also have quite the ineptitude for backing up his claims. Make some sense.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 02 2012 09:21 GMT
#3271
Kontroll is one of my favourites ever.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Kazius
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Israel1456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 09:34:43
September 02 2012 09:32 GMT
#3272
On September 02 2012 16:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol@mulholland drive snoozefest but requiem for a dream best movie ever, please have some taste before making any opinions.

I'll say this; you have no taste... or more accurately, very little taste. Allow me to explain.

+ Show Spoiler [warning, may be offensive to RfaD fans] +
Mulholland Drive is a very ambitious movie, that will obviously not be for everyone; it attempts and succeeds to break new ground in cinema.

Requiem for a Dream on the other hand, is a movie that uses the simplest tricks in order to create false empathy, and the only reason people think it's good is because of cheap shock value. The cheap ripoff of Tarantino's genericism of the main characters (Reservoir Dogs, colors instead of names, limited backstory) in order to force people to identify with the characters (or at least identify their archetypes), the throw-away plot which could have (and indeed has) been written many times over by many other filmmakers to make people get into it easier because it is familiar, the MTV-influenced visual style that fits commercials and music videos more than an actual story, the complete lack of twists and turns to make the film as unintellectual as possible so morons could understand it, the lack of any meaningful message (drugs are bad m'kay? you shouldn't do drugs, because they're bad, m'kay?), the mediocre (at best) acting, and the only thing that actually stood out as positive was the soundtrack, and even there, it's not at the absolute highest level, lacks a unique style, and seems to have been put together to fit a formula and not a film. Requiem for a Dream is the Nickelback of films. It's just edgy enough to not seem mainstream, but not edgy enough for people to think it's crap due to it's style. It's just outside the range of lack of depth of The Expendables and Adam Sandler movies, but still simple enough to hammer what little is in there into the brain of even the dumbest people who watch. It's not completely lacking a plot as to be Michael Bay level of recyclable crap, but lacks any density as to not confuse anyone. The characters are just enough to be outside the norm (drugs! hurr!), but so simple as that anyone could identify with them. But people can't say they hate it, because nothing about it REALLY sucks, instead it's just generic, mediocre, shock-oriented, low-brow, shoddily made, completely unambitious, presumptuous and in general not better than generic rom-coms and action films. The movie is made for people that are stupid, but want to feel smart; the same crowd that thought The Matrix was "deep", that Michael Moore is "edgy", that having an iPhone is an expression of personality, that knowing the Lyrics to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" makes you dark, and that reading is "awesome" but they haven't read a book in over a year.

If you think this movie is the best, you are not only wrong, you have been duped by marketing and the shit you see in front of you every day to think that this is any different than the rest of the hollywood approved (tm) films that happen every month. You lack any true taste of your own, but like what is supposed to be good. Now watch it again. See it for the cheap manipulative piece of shit that it is. You are better than this movie.


edit: tl;dr: Requiem for a Dream is the Nickelback of cinema.
Friendship is like peeing yourself. Anyone can see it, but only you get that warm feeling.
slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
September 02 2012 09:41 GMT
#3273
On September 02 2012 06:13 CyDe wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Fantastic movie. Very moving, and quality comedy as well. I highly recommend you watch this movie.
This movie was great, I would go so far as to say it was the best movie I saw this year.

Also Easy A, lol, I was in that movie a few times.
I get it.
iG.Forever
Profile Joined February 2004
Korea (South)148 Posts
September 02 2012 09:47 GMT
#3274
recently watched compliance and dark shadows.

compliance is a based off a true story about a prank call to a fast food restaurant that leads to rather disturbing set of events. I thought the movie was in between the area of ok and horrible, just cuz i can't get over the fact how stupid some ppl can be.

but dark shadows on the other hand was just pure horrible. skip this one as its just a snooze from beginning to end =/
IU <3
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 02 2012 10:17 GMT
#3275
On September 02 2012 18:32 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 16:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol@mulholland drive snoozefest but requiem for a dream best movie ever, please have some taste before making any opinions.

I'll say this; you have no taste... or more accurately, very little taste. Allow me to explain.

+ Show Spoiler [warning, may be offensive to RfaD fans] +
Mulholland Drive is a very ambitious movie, that will obviously not be for everyone; it attempts and succeeds to break new ground in cinema.

Requiem for a Dream on the other hand, is a movie that uses the simplest tricks in order to create false empathy, and the only reason people think it's good is because of cheap shock value. The cheap ripoff of Tarantino's genericism of the main characters (Reservoir Dogs, colors instead of names, limited backstory) in order to force people to identify with the characters (or at least identify their archetypes), the throw-away plot which could have (and indeed has) been written many times over by many other filmmakers to make people get into it easier because it is familiar, the MTV-influenced visual style that fits commercials and music videos more than an actual story, the complete lack of twists and turns to make the film as unintellectual as possible so morons could understand it, the lack of any meaningful message (drugs are bad m'kay? you shouldn't do drugs, because they're bad, m'kay?), the mediocre (at best) acting, and the only thing that actually stood out as positive was the soundtrack, and even there, it's not at the absolute highest level, lacks a unique style, and seems to have been put together to fit a formula and not a film. Requiem for a Dream is the Nickelback of films. It's just edgy enough to not seem mainstream, but not edgy enough for people to think it's crap due to it's style. It's just outside the range of lack of depth of The Expendables and Adam Sandler movies, but still simple enough to hammer what little is in there into the brain of even the dumbest people who watch. It's not completely lacking a plot as to be Michael Bay level of recyclable crap, but lacks any density as to not confuse anyone. The characters are just enough to be outside the norm (drugs! hurr!), but so simple as that anyone could identify with them. But people can't say they hate it, because nothing about it REALLY sucks, instead it's just generic, mediocre, shock-oriented, low-brow, shoddily made, completely unambitious, presumptuous and in general not better than generic rom-coms and action films. The movie is made for people that are stupid, but want to feel smart; the same crowd that thought The Matrix was "deep", that Michael Moore is "edgy", that having an iPhone is an expression of personality, that knowing the Lyrics to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" makes you dark, and that reading is "awesome" but they haven't read a book in over a year.

If you think this movie is the best, you are not only wrong, you have been duped by marketing and the shit you see in front of you every day to think that this is any different than the rest of the hollywood approved (tm) films that happen every month. You lack any true taste of your own, but like what is supposed to be good. Now watch it again. See it for the cheap manipulative piece of shit that it is. You are better than this movie.


edit: tl;dr: Requiem for a Dream is the Nickelback of cinema.


....
you misunderstood, zulu was clearly saying that he didnt think that highly of requiem for a dream


On September 02 2012 08:21 ob1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 07:22 Xiphos wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:25 CyDe wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.


I absolutely despise the movie. If you look back a couple of pages back of the thread, you'll find myself to be unable to contain the optimism and hype of welcoming the film into my life as various of posters have enticed me to. However speaking, I was taken into the nastiest ride that went far beyond my wildest imagination. The movie have utterly destroyed me emotionally and brought myself into physical sorrow and morose. The premise was set to be a coming of age story that I have envisioned. But before I would fully grasp about its settings and theme, the plot was already spiraling out control in an unbelievable, dark, and twisted turns. This has lead my mind to perpetually ponder on the deepest psyche of my existence. And I was simply caught in a despair of wishing to have never even visited the IMDB's movie recommendation page.

And for all the above intended reasons and purposes, I would to by all means grant this piece of 'disaster' from the director Darren Aronofsky the closest media to a perfect 10.

And as for my next warning, this movie:
[image loading]
couldn't hand a candle to the aforementioned film. Such a snoozefest.


Mulholland Drive is the greatest film I have seen. When I initially viewed it I wasn't sure what to make it of it, but for days I could not stop thinking about it. It is all at once a mystery, a romance, a satire and a horror film, while managing to blend it all with dream like quality. Naomi Watts also delivers one of the greatest performances of all time. A film like this is not about story but about the emotions.



Yeah its an awesome movie, its probably at least in my top 3 of favourite films.
beep boop
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
September 02 2012 12:56 GMT
#3276
On September 02 2012 16:02 ob1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 08:44 WniO wrote:
mulholland drive was a tv series that got canceled halfway in production so lynch put it into a movie and added a few scenes... so theres like 6 lengthy scenes that have nothing to do with the plot that you have to sit through... its well made though - so its worth a watch for film lovers.


The fact that it was a pilot with added scenes later on does not mean the two parts have nothing to do with each other. They work together. To me the added scenes are like a shift from a pleasant dream to a brutal nightmare.

Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 08:35 Xiphos wrote:
On September 02 2012 08:21 ob1 wrote:
On September 02 2012 07:22 Xiphos wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:25 CyDe wrote:
On September 02 2012 06:18 Mortal wrote:
On August 29 2012 22:14 Xiphos wrote:
TL, I just watched this:
[image loading]
Honestly, I don't know what to say.


There's nothing to say

No tears, only dreams now.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this, I've only heard good things about it.


I absolutely despise the movie. If you look back a couple of pages back of the thread, you'll find myself to be unable to contain the optimism and hype of welcoming the film into my life as various of posters have enticed me to. However speaking, I was taken into the nastiest ride that went far beyond my wildest imagination. The movie have utterly destroyed me emotionally and brought myself into physical sorrow and morose. The premise was set to be a coming of age story that I have envisioned. But before I would fully grasp about its settings and theme, the plot was already spiraling out control in an unbelievable, dark, and twisted turns. This has lead my mind to perpetually ponder on the deepest psyche of my existence. And I was simply caught in a despair of wishing to have never even visited the IMDB's movie recommendation page.

And for all the above intended reasons and purposes, I would to by all means grant this piece of 'disaster' from the director Darren Aronofsky the closest media to a perfect 10.

And as for my next warning, this movie:
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couldn't hand a candle to the aforementioned film. Such a snoozefest.


Mulholland Drive is the greatest film I have seen. When I initially viewed it I wasn't sure what to make it of it, but for days I could not stop thinking about it. It is all at once a mystery, a romance, a satire and a horror film, while managing to blend it all with dream like quality. Naomi Watts also delivers one of the greatest performances of all time. A film like this is not about story but about the emotions.



Imo, it was prolonged too much. Yeah the acting by Mrs. Watts was fantastic and her appearance itself have attracted me to the piece if you know what I mean However I was sort of expecting it to be more drama oriented movie with intense situations and somewhat exploring the dark secrets of the 'drive'. But now that you've mentioned key words such as "mystery, romance, a satire and horror film", I can sort of come in terms with the absurd drowsiness.

JUST get something straight though:
+ Show Spoiler +
So it is a movie about dual reality universe. One is about a rookie rising star and the other about a failed actress. And both of these surrealism reflects the life of one single central character. If this is was the premise and the message that David Lynch is trying to convey, then I feel that those two universes could be intertwined with more homogeneous substance instead of solely separating the acts.


There is no concrete explanation for what is going on and there shouldn't be. Lynch has never explained it and he shouldn't have to. Everyone's interpretation is correct. I have my own for the plot but it's not important as no matter what interpretation you have the details never all add up. All that really matters is that within it's running time it moves me, scares me, depresses me, and just hits on more emotional fronts than any other movie I've seen. It's essentially a dream, don't bother trying to put jigsaw pieces together (at least not the first time), just enjoy it.

While you're at it pretty much all of David Lynch's work is fantastic and you can see how it all led to Mulholland Drive. Do yourself a favour and check out all of it, Twin Peaks (maybe avoid Dune). Mulholland Drive is about middle of the road in it's weirdness. Inland Empire being the most challenging. Detractors of Lynch like to claim he's just fucking with people and can't do a straight up movie, but then there's The Elephant Man and The Straight Story to shut them up.

thats not a god damn excuse "oh its just a dream man so it fine" doesnt fucking work. these scenes have fucking ZERO to do with naomi watts character SHES THE MAIN SHIT. they dont affect her in any way or add any character development. shit zip. the hobo scene (6 minutes long) - random shootout in motel - (4 minutes) - Evil bad guys plotting (6 minutes) - producer meets creepy cowboy (4 minutes) - end stage song (2 minutes) plus like 3 others that i cant think of atm. if it was a series that had time to explore certain shit then yeah this would have been one hell of a tv show, but just clusterfucking it together with his trademark transitions its just a gorgeous film with no plot ---- see "gerry" or "last days" intersting films but putting them up with 8 1/2 citizen kane vertigo 2001 etcetc is flat out dumb. guy above posting on why requiem is bad is mostly right, but its certainly has some merits including a standout by ellen burystyn - but god is it repetitive. in fact we should make a list of the most overrated films of all time these two would be in my top twenty for sure. they are like the best movies ever when you are in middleschool until you watch you know actually good films.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
September 02 2012 14:23 GMT
#3277
If we had to make a list of the most overrated films of all time, this would definitely be the place to start. It's actually pretty impressive.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 02 2012 15:56 GMT
#3278
On September 02 2012 18:32 Kazius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2012 16:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
lol@mulholland drive snoozefest but requiem for a dream best movie ever, please have some taste before making any opinions.

I'll say this; you have no taste... or more accurately, very little taste. Allow me to explain.

+ Show Spoiler [warning, may be offensive to RfaD fans] +
Mulholland Drive is a very ambitious movie, that will obviously not be for everyone; it attempts and succeeds to break new ground in cinema.

Requiem for a Dream on the other hand, is a movie that uses the simplest tricks in order to create false empathy, and the only reason people think it's good is because of cheap shock value. The cheap ripoff of Tarantino's genericism of the main characters (Reservoir Dogs, colors instead of names, limited backstory) in order to force people to identify with the characters (or at least identify their archetypes), the throw-away plot which could have (and indeed has) been written many times over by many other filmmakers to make people get into it easier because it is familiar, the MTV-influenced visual style that fits commercials and music videos more than an actual story, the complete lack of twists and turns to make the film as unintellectual as possible so morons could understand it, the lack of any meaningful message (drugs are bad m'kay? you shouldn't do drugs, because they're bad, m'kay?), the mediocre (at best) acting, and the only thing that actually stood out as positive was the soundtrack, and even there, it's not at the absolute highest level, lacks a unique style, and seems to have been put together to fit a formula and not a film. Requiem for a Dream is the Nickelback of films. It's just edgy enough to not seem mainstream, but not edgy enough for people to think it's crap due to it's style. It's just outside the range of lack of depth of The Expendables and Adam Sandler movies, but still simple enough to hammer what little is in there into the brain of even the dumbest people who watch. It's not completely lacking a plot as to be Michael Bay level of recyclable crap, but lacks any density as to not confuse anyone. The characters are just enough to be outside the norm (drugs! hurr!), but so simple as that anyone could identify with them. But people can't say they hate it, because nothing about it REALLY sucks, instead it's just generic, mediocre, shock-oriented, low-brow, shoddily made, completely unambitious, presumptuous and in general not better than generic rom-coms and action films. The movie is made for people that are stupid, but want to feel smart; the same crowd that thought The Matrix was "deep", that Michael Moore is "edgy", that having an iPhone is an expression of personality, that knowing the Lyrics to "Smells Like Teen Spirit" makes you dark, and that reading is "awesome" but they haven't read a book in over a year.

If you think this movie is the best, you are not only wrong, you have been duped by marketing and the shit you see in front of you every day to think that this is any different than the rest of the hollywood approved (tm) films that happen every month. You lack any true taste of your own, but like what is supposed to be good. Now watch it again. See it for the cheap manipulative piece of shit that it is. You are better than this movie.


edit: tl;dr: Requiem for a Dream is the Nickelback of cinema.


First of all, that was the shittiest analysis pertaining to the film because it doesn't actually attempt to breakdown the scenes and character development but instead blatantly spew out extraneous writings with no tangible relation to the subject.

And secondly, you are speaking for yourself man. You obviously have little experience with the substances utilized in the film. Despite how cliche and predictable it was, you actually have to be 'there' done 'that' to 'feel' the movie . The underlying theme is that + Show Spoiler +
drugs can lead into insanity.
The edgy effects and somewhat surrealistic ones are indeed what the illegal substance creates in your mind.

By the way I don't find the movie to be 'smart' in any other way, I actually find the plot to be completely easy to follow but at the same time, the pacing of the movie is excellent as it gripped the attention of everyone that saw the piece with me.

In contrast, Mulholland Dr. on the other hand felt cheap. And it was cop out by Lynch to simply throw in + Show Spoiler +
"Oh yeah it was just Diane dreaming the whole time about her sad life and how it would be awesome to be someone else."
Like really man? Shutter Island even had a better plot twist than that with the end verbal confrontation. And yes there were many scenes that was useless. I was expecting the scene to interwine one way or the other a la Pulp Fiction.

That being said, I wasn't much impressed by the pacing and director's cut on M. Dr. Requiem for a Dream is much more 'action'-packed. But I very much enjoyed the movie Drive which consisted of David Lynch's tone and mysterious vibe. The main thing that separates Drive and M. Dr. would be that Drive's motives and course of action all had some drive (no pun intended) behind it.

I'm giving Lynch another chance with alacrity as I'm planning on watching Blue Velvet. Now hopefully that change my pre-conception of his work.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
September 02 2012 16:02 GMT
#3279
On September 03 2012 00:56 Xiphos wrote:
The underlying theme is that + Show Spoiler +
drugs can lead into insanity.

Wow, so much depth, I can't believe it.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
September 02 2012 16:33 GMT
#3280
On September 03 2012 01:02 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 00:56 Xiphos wrote:
The underlying theme is that + Show Spoiler +
drugs can lead into insanity.

Wow, so much depth, I can't believe it.


Not really tho .:/
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