|
All book discussion in this thread is now allowed. |
On May 13 2013 19:15 Shock710 wrote: thank you jamie, and thank god the theon tortue scene was cut short, another horrible thing (pleeease let it end)
Lol. I got my parents to watch this series and they love it. But every time they cut of hands/heads etc my mother looks the other way the sweetheart. And the moment she sees Theon these days she leaves to grab a drink or got to the toilet until it is over haha.
|
Why do people expect big things to happen every single episode? Do they not realize it's the exact middle of the season, where there should be slowly rising action that leads to the climax? Are they not aware that this is not some high-octane Vin Diesel flick?
There were major battles last season in King's Landing and the Riverlands. You can't possibly expect them to mindlessly bash at each other with their forces every other hour or so. Read up on how medieval warfare worked. Battles were few and far between and usually quite decisive. Afterwards, there would be YEARS of turtling up in castles and minor raids/skirmishes on each other's supply lines. Learn to enjoy the setting and the people living in it and discovering the whys and hows of what they do. Stop gibbering for brainless violence.
|
On May 13 2013 21:05 SamsungStar wrote: Why do people expect big things to happen every single episode? Do they not realize it's the exact middle of the season, where there should be slowly rising action that leads to the climax? Are they not aware that this is not some high-octane Vin Diesel flick?
There were major battles last season in King's Landing and the Riverlands. You can't possibly expect them to mindlessly bash at each other with their forces every other hour or so. Read up on how medieval warfare worked. Battles were few and far between and usually quite decisive. Afterwards, there would be YEARS of turtling up in castles and minor raids/skirmishes on each other's supply lines. Learn to enjoy the setting and the people living in it and discovering the whys and hows of what they do. Stop gibbering for brainless violence. Haha, sounds like a reverse Sc2 match :D
|
Well I guess I was just hoping for something to happen.. I'm enjoying season 3 but I think season 1 and 2 are better. I don't mind the lack of major events/action but, there seems to be a lack of build-up to the end of this season and really just more of the same. The torturing goes on, Sansa and Marjorie walking around talking about wedding stuff, Jamie still trying to get back to dad (but "heroically" saves Brienne first). Bran and the others still hangin out talking about ravens. Tywin finally confronted Joffrey, which was a good scene, but nothing major.. Tyrion not playing a major role this season is sad.
The only story lines that seem interesting this season are #1 Daenerys and #2 John Snow.
|
As a Dutch my English isn't that good but i love the interpretation and the storyline. I don't like reading books and somehow this series has got me into the books of Ice and Fire.
What im saying is this is very good for my English and at the same time one of the best series i've ever seen.
|
i thought this episode was great
|
On May 13 2013 19:52 UdderChaos wrote: That episode, along with the last was meh. I really don't understand why theon needs so much screen-time with his torture. Even after seeing the conclusion of this storyline of this i doubt any on-screen torture was really required, let alone what feels like 40 minutes at least this season. I'm fine with the sex and the gore, but to show torture at such lengths for so long on screen does feel unnecessary to me. Its the same thing with watching Tyrion pay for his squire to get some action. Theon is important so they dont want you to forget about him.
|
What the fuck is the deal with showing theon get tortured for the entire season? It's a complete waste imo. I understand that they need to stitch the storylines together but they waste so much time every episode for it (like 4-5 minute scenes).
Also, anyone else feel like this whole sansa-tyrion-shae thing feels contrived? I'm not remotely afflicted by shae getting upset. Her tantrum was ridiculous.
The only thing i enjoyed was jamie-brienne (and even that was a bit far-fetched. I felt like the writers/author only put that in as a really irresponsible premise to develop the character.) I'm disappointed that Jamie and Brienne didn't die tbh. I feel like that would've been a great way to finish jamie's character development. If he finally proved his honor to the starks by dying for her, trying to protect her.
|
I think this was the most boring episode in this season so far. I don't want war and murder every episode but storyline for jon snow and bran is really slow and nothing is happening around them. They seem irrelevant to everything else. I hope wildlings somehow find bran so we see them less in total. I don't understand where jon and those few wildlings are going? Did they mention it?
|
On May 13 2013 21:22 Thor.Rush wrote: Well I guess I was just hoping for something to happen.. I'm enjoying season 3 but I think season 1 and 2 are better. I don't mind the lack of major events/action but, there seems to be a lack of build-up to the end of this season and really just more of the same. The torturing goes on, Sansa and Marjorie walking around talking about wedding stuff, Jamie still trying to get back to dad (but "heroically" saves Brienne first). Bran and the others still hangin out talking about ravens. Tywin finally confronted Joffrey, which was a good scene, but nothing major.. Tyrion not playing a major role this season is sad.
The only story lines that seem interesting this season are #1 Daenerys and #2 John Snow.
Tyrion was in every episode so far...
I don't get how you can say it has been more of the same/lack of build up. There is so much stuff going on at the same time. The conflict with John Snows loyalties and the many hints dropped, the Lannister's family trouble, Robb losing grip on the situation making diplomatic mistake after mistake, Jamie for the first time being trusted by someone/not seen as a pariah (Brienne), he did not go back out of "heroism". Hodor being Hodor! Little Finger becoming a more important figure in the story.
Ok, the Theon thing, I have no clue why he is important to the story to be honest, he is sort of just there not enjoying himself very much all the time. Also Deanerys has an army now! And she is learning fast how to lead. Oh, also a dude who comes back to life even though he was almost cleaved in half. Arya getting kidnapped AGAIN, but by the hound, and the hound sort of had feelings/loyalty for Sansa I think, so no clue what will happen there, I mean he does not want to kill her and he is not going back to King's Landing, so wth does he need Arya for.
But yeah, I guess nothing is happening Oo. I think some people here just want to see people swinging swords at each other, I don't think this is the show for that.
|
On May 13 2013 22:16 Isualin wrote: I think this was the most boring episode in this season so far. I don't want war and murder every episode but storyline for jon snow and bran is really slow and nothing is happening around them. They seem irrelevant to everything else. I hope wildlings somehow find bran so we see them less in total. I don't understand where jon and those few wildlings are going? Did they mention it?
Aren't they going to scout castle black to see how many forces are there before the wildlings attack castle black?
|
On May 13 2013 22:17 Domus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 13 2013 21:22 Thor.Rush wrote: Well I guess I was just hoping for something to happen.. I'm enjoying season 3 but I think season 1 and 2 are better. I don't mind the lack of major events/action but, there seems to be a lack of build-up to the end of this season and really just more of the same. The torturing goes on, Sansa and Marjorie walking around talking about wedding stuff, Jamie still trying to get back to dad (but "heroically" saves Brienne first). Bran and the others still hangin out talking about ravens. Tywin finally confronted Joffrey, which was a good scene, but nothing major.. Tyrion not playing a major role this season is sad.
The only story lines that seem interesting this season are #1 Daenerys and #2 John Snow. Tyrion was in every episode so far... I don't get how you can say it has been more of the same/lack of build up. There is so much stuff going on at the same time. The conflict with John Snows loyalties and the many hints dropped, the Lannister's family trouble, Robb losing grip on the situation making diplomatic mistake after mistake, Jamie for the first time being trusted by someone/not seen as a pariah (Brienne), he did not go back out of "heroism". Hodor being Hodor! Little Finger becoming a more important figure in the story. Ok, the Theon thing, I have no clue why he is important to the story to be honest, he is sort of just there not enjoying himself very much all the time. Also Deanerys has an army now! And she is learning fast how to lead. Oh, also a dude who comes back to life even though he was almost cleaved in half. Arya getting kidnapped AGAIN, but by the hound, and the hound sort of had feelings/loyalty for Sansa I think, so no clue what will happen there, I mean he does not want to kill her and he is not going back to King's Landing, so wth does he need Arya for. But yeah, I guess nothing is happening Oo. I think some people here just want to see people swinging swords at each other, I don't think this is the show for that. Never said nothing was happening, and I did say I'm enjoying season 3. I just don't think it's as rich of a story as season 1 or 2 if you compare their episodes 1-7. 8-10 in this season could be great; we'll have to see. Speaking of Tyrion, he had way more entertaining roles in season 1-2.
|
On May 13 2013 22:28 Thor.Rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 22:17 Domus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 13 2013 21:22 Thor.Rush wrote: Well I guess I was just hoping for something to happen.. I'm enjoying season 3 but I think season 1 and 2 are better. I don't mind the lack of major events/action but, there seems to be a lack of build-up to the end of this season and really just more of the same. The torturing goes on, Sansa and Marjorie walking around talking about wedding stuff, Jamie still trying to get back to dad (but "heroically" saves Brienne first). Bran and the others still hangin out talking about ravens. Tywin finally confronted Joffrey, which was a good scene, but nothing major.. Tyrion not playing a major role this season is sad.
The only story lines that seem interesting this season are #1 Daenerys and #2 John Snow. Tyrion was in every episode so far... I don't get how you can say it has been more of the same/lack of build up. There is so much stuff going on at the same time. The conflict with John Snows loyalties and the many hints dropped, the Lannister's family trouble, Robb losing grip on the situation making diplomatic mistake after mistake, Jamie for the first time being trusted by someone/not seen as a pariah (Brienne), he did not go back out of "heroism". Hodor being Hodor! Little Finger becoming a more important figure in the story. Ok, the Theon thing, I have no clue why he is important to the story to be honest, he is sort of just there not enjoying himself very much all the time. Also Deanerys has an army now! And she is learning fast how to lead. Oh, also a dude who comes back to life even though he was almost cleaved in half. Arya getting kidnapped AGAIN, but by the hound, and the hound sort of had feelings/loyalty for Sansa I think, so no clue what will happen there, I mean he does not want to kill her and he is not going back to King's Landing, so wth does he need Arya for. But yeah, I guess nothing is happening Oo. I think some people here just want to see people swinging swords at each other, I don't think this is the show for that. Never said nothing was happening, and I did say I'm enjoying season 3. I just don't think it's as rich of a story as season 1 or 2 if you compare their episodes 1-7. 8-10 in this season could be great; we'll have to see. Speaking of Tyrion, he had way more entertaining roles in season 1-2. Well, we are seeing the aftermath of a war (its in a stalemate atm) which means not a lot of exciting things are happening within Robb, Stannis and Kings Landing storylines.
|
On May 13 2013 22:18 Domus wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 22:16 Isualin wrote: I think this was the most boring episode in this season so far. I don't want war and murder every episode but storyline for jon snow and bran is really slow and nothing is happening around them. They seem irrelevant to everything else. I hope wildlings somehow find bran so we see them less in total. I don't understand where jon and those few wildlings are going? Did they mention it? Aren't they going to scout castle black to see how many forces are there before the wildlings attack castle black?
Yes, exactly. They are the vanguard of a massive invasion by the wildlings. But I guess that's irrelevant to everything else... Not like a horde of wildlings streaming into the Northlands while Robb is fighting a war in the Riverlands will matter, right? Nor that a bastard son of the former ruler of House Stark will be part of that invading army.
Bran's storyline is admittedly terrible though. I can't stand watching his scenes. One can only tolerate stories about three-eyed ravens and scenes of ugly girls bickering for so long.
The Brothers Without Banners are great. The Red Lady's storyline is really interesting. I'm curious to know what she's going to do with the blacksmith's apprentice. Arya's story just got really interesting with Clegane. Daenerys is finally making power moves and has a freaking army at her command. Littlefinger scheming. The Tyrells are enmeshing themselves in convoluted politics, trying to pull Sansa close to their side and outmaneuver the Lannisters, who, by the way, are their allies purely out of necessity. They used to support one of the Baratheons and only went over to Tywin because Stannis is such an intolerant prig. If not for Renly's death, the Tyrells would have been fighting the Lannisters.
So, when you really look at it, the story is developing quite nicely, with a multitude of interesting storylines. It's just some people can't keep track of what's going on and want to whine about no good fights.
|
On May 13 2013 22:28 Thor.Rush wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 22:17 Domus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 13 2013 21:22 Thor.Rush wrote: Well I guess I was just hoping for something to happen.. I'm enjoying season 3 but I think season 1 and 2 are better. I don't mind the lack of major events/action but, there seems to be a lack of build-up to the end of this season and really just more of the same. The torturing goes on, Sansa and Marjorie walking around talking about wedding stuff, Jamie still trying to get back to dad (but "heroically" saves Brienne first). Bran and the others still hangin out talking about ravens. Tywin finally confronted Joffrey, which was a good scene, but nothing major.. Tyrion not playing a major role this season is sad.
The only story lines that seem interesting this season are #1 Daenerys and #2 John Snow. Tyrion was in every episode so far... I don't get how you can say it has been more of the same/lack of build up. There is so much stuff going on at the same time. The conflict with John Snows loyalties and the many hints dropped, the Lannister's family trouble, Robb losing grip on the situation making diplomatic mistake after mistake, Jamie for the first time being trusted by someone/not seen as a pariah (Brienne), he did not go back out of "heroism". Hodor being Hodor! Little Finger becoming a more important figure in the story. Ok, the Theon thing, I have no clue why he is important to the story to be honest, he is sort of just there not enjoying himself very much all the time. Also Deanerys has an army now! And she is learning fast how to lead. Oh, also a dude who comes back to life even though he was almost cleaved in half. Arya getting kidnapped AGAIN, but by the hound, and the hound sort of had feelings/loyalty for Sansa I think, so no clue what will happen there, I mean he does not want to kill her and he is not going back to King's Landing, so wth does he need Arya for. But yeah, I guess nothing is happening Oo. I think some people here just want to see people swinging swords at each other, I don't think this is the show for that. Never said nothing was happening, and I did say I'm enjoying season 3. I just don't think it's as rich of a story as season 1 or 2 if you compare their episodes 1-7. 8-10 in this season could be great; we'll have to see. Speaking of Tyrion, he had way more entertaining roles in season 1-2.
Catering to idiotic desires by the audience for immediate gratification is exactly what sinks epic storylines and turns them into episodic nonsense. Tyrion had way more entertaining roles? Try to understand Tyrion as an actual character. The entire point of this season for him is that he was doing really important, influential things for his family in the first two seasons, yet now, after all the good works he's done, his father has relegated him to being little more than a pawn in a political marriage and a powerless administrator wasting time in small councils. That's why Tyrion is spending most of his time absorbed in his relationship with Shae and brooding over how unfairly he's been treated. There have been some great scenes with his sister and his father, which juxtaposed just how different Tyrion and Jamie's positions are in the family. But I guess some people would rather hear more droll one-liners about whoring and drinking and watch him waddle about in armor lashing people with his tongue.
|
That's what amazes me about the GoT show being so popular. The average TV viewer only wants inmediate gratification and any episode that doesn't include violence, sex, explosions or characters dying and instead sets up the plot or developes the characters is considered "boring".
|
On May 13 2013 22:44 SamsungStar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 13 2013 22:28 Thor.Rush wrote:On May 13 2013 22:17 Domus wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 13 2013 21:22 Thor.Rush wrote: Well I guess I was just hoping for something to happen.. I'm enjoying season 3 but I think season 1 and 2 are better. I don't mind the lack of major events/action but, there seems to be a lack of build-up to the end of this season and really just more of the same. The torturing goes on, Sansa and Marjorie walking around talking about wedding stuff, Jamie still trying to get back to dad (but "heroically" saves Brienne first). Bran and the others still hangin out talking about ravens. Tywin finally confronted Joffrey, which was a good scene, but nothing major.. Tyrion not playing a major role this season is sad.
The only story lines that seem interesting this season are #1 Daenerys and #2 John Snow. Tyrion was in every episode so far... I don't get how you can say it has been more of the same/lack of build up. There is so much stuff going on at the same time. The conflict with John Snows loyalties and the many hints dropped, the Lannister's family trouble, Robb losing grip on the situation making diplomatic mistake after mistake, Jamie for the first time being trusted by someone/not seen as a pariah (Brienne), he did not go back out of "heroism". Hodor being Hodor! Little Finger becoming a more important figure in the story. Ok, the Theon thing, I have no clue why he is important to the story to be honest, he is sort of just there not enjoying himself very much all the time. Also Deanerys has an army now! And she is learning fast how to lead. Oh, also a dude who comes back to life even though he was almost cleaved in half. Arya getting kidnapped AGAIN, but by the hound, and the hound sort of had feelings/loyalty for Sansa I think, so no clue what will happen there, I mean he does not want to kill her and he is not going back to King's Landing, so wth does he need Arya for. But yeah, I guess nothing is happening Oo. I think some people here just want to see people swinging swords at each other, I don't think this is the show for that. Never said nothing was happening, and I did say I'm enjoying season 3. I just don't think it's as rich of a story as season 1 or 2 if you compare their episodes 1-7. 8-10 in this season could be great; we'll have to see. Speaking of Tyrion, he had way more entertaining roles in season 1-2. Catering to idiotic desires by the audience for immediate gratification is exactly what sinks epic storylines and turns them into episodic nonsense. Tyrion had way more entertaining roles? Try to understand Tyrion as an actual character. The entire point of this season for him is that he was doing really important, influential things for his family in the first two seasons, yet now, after all the good works he's done, his father has relegated him to being little more than a pawn in a political marriage and a powerless administrator wasting time in small councils. That's why Tyrion is spending most of his time absorbed in his relationship with Shae and brooding over how unfairly he's been treated. There have been some great scenes with his sister and his father, which juxtaposed just how different Tyrion and Jamie's positions are in the family. But I guess some people would rather hear more droll one-liners about whoring and drinking and watch him waddle about in armor lashing people with his tongue. Dude you need to relax. You're defending the show way too seriously and assuming way too much about me. I'll repeat what I said. I'm enjoying season 3, but not as much as 1-2. How is that not a fair opinion to have? Seasons 1-2 didn't have "immediate gratification" all the time and I still loved it, so please don't put words into my mouth. Tyrion's role this season has changed and you can't change story to make his character more interesting. I get that. What I'm saying is I think that it's unfortunate his character is the way it is now. I'm sorry for having that opinion, but I believe most people came to like the character precisely because of his witty "one-liners about whoring and drinking and watch him waddle about in armor lashing people with his tongue" (if you want to put that way) or just his wit in general.
|
The best line of the episode was delivered by no other than Hodor!
Yes, the plot has been set up and I do think it is being developed nicely to a potential climax soon enough, but it is inevitable at this point to think in some scenes (Theon for example) "Ok, we get it, can we move forward a little bit?". And I'm not even talking about being disturbed by violence.
My biggest fear is (not having read the books) something big is going to happen in the last 2 episodes or so and we will have to wait another year to see the results. For the same reason I think S4 probably will be the best season out of the 4.
|
On May 13 2013 19:15 Shock710 wrote: omg u guys can not know how happy and relieved i am, that briene didnt get raped or die (omg nothing has horrible as rape T_T) thank you jamie, and thank god the theon tortue scene was cut short, another horrible thing (pleeease let it end) )
cut short... huhhahaha :D
|
Actually i was expecting someone important to die by now
|
|
|
|
|
|