• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:58
CET 11:58
KST 19:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier6Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League93
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 Power Rank: epic29 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion SCHNAIL now supports Remastered Ziemie's Starcraft 1 Prequel Campaign Bot on ladder Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Women's StarCraft] MonstarZ vs BA 2026-10-30 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Star Con San Diego 2026
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9525 users

[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 635

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 633 634 635 636 637 1836 Next
All book discussion in this thread is now allowed.
doner0
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
April 02 2013 13:13 GMT
#12681
On April 02 2013 22:09 KainiT wrote:
How is it possible that Davos survived on that rock? Let alone that he was in the middle of the wildfire explosion, isn't this supposed to be a couple of weeks after the blackwater battle? Seems a little strange to me.

suspend disbelief my friend. but more importantly it never states the time when the next episode takes place and it also never made it implicit where he was in terms of his fleet. but i will admit it is questionable because the pirate captain, forgot his name which makes me ashamed of myself, does state that stannis is already hiding back at his "rock" but this could just mean that stannis is going back to the island rather than explicitly there
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 02 2013 13:13 GMT
#12682
On April 02 2013 22:02 MacDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 21:48 daemir wrote:
The deserter was still no innocent. Did you see what kind of people Yoren was taking to serve at the wall? Where he got those from? Yea the dungeons. Innocent people don't exactly volunteer for a life sentence at the wall.


And? Sam, Jon and more people are in the Night’s Watch they are not criminal. Ned label him has deserter because he could not get back to wall alive. His whole ranger unit got masacred by 1 white walker.


No...Ned labeled him a deserter because he deserted the wall. They caught him well south of the wall (near Winterfell) running for his life. Even though he saw some fucked up shit, that doesn't make him less of a deserter. It doesn't matter what he did to get put on the wall, they forgive that when you get there. But when you desert you forfeit your life, Ned was just upholding the law.
MacDo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada69 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 13:25:50
April 02 2013 13:22 GMT
#12683
On April 02 2013 22:13 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:02 MacDo wrote:
On April 02 2013 21:48 daemir wrote:
The deserter was still no innocent. Did you see what kind of people Yoren was taking to serve at the wall? Where he got those from? Yea the dungeons. Innocent people don't exactly volunteer for a life sentence at the wall.


And? Sam, Jon and more people are in the Night’s Watch they are not criminal. Ned label him has deserter because he could not get back to wall alive. His whole ranger unit got masacred by 1 white walker.


No...Ned labeled him a deserter because he deserted the wall. They caught him well south of the wall (near Winterfell) running for his life. Even though he saw some fucked up shit, that doesn't make him less of a deserter. It doesn't matter what he did to get put on the wall, they forgive that when you get there. But when you desert you forfeit your life, Ned was just upholding the law.


Because Winterfell's a close town south of the wall.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9644 Posts
April 02 2013 13:25 GMT
#12684
and? he is still a deserter. he clearly passed the wall and kept going. and died for it, rightfully so.
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
April 02 2013 13:26 GMT
#12685
On April 02 2013 22:13 doner0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:09 KainiT wrote:
How is it possible that Davos survived on that rock? Let alone that he was in the middle of the wildfire explosion, isn't this supposed to be a couple of weeks after the blackwater battle? Seems a little strange to me.

suspend disbelief my friend. but more importantly it never states the time when the next episode takes place and it also never made it implicit where he was in terms of his fleet. but i will admit it is questionable because the pirate captain, forgot his name which makes me ashamed of myself, does state that stannis is already hiding back at his "rock" but this could just mean that stannis is going back to the island rather than explicitly there


There were quite a lot of hints on how long the episode is supposed to be after Blackwater, for example when Tyrion complains about his father never visiting, but yes the thing with Stannis already being back at dragonstone is the most striking one as it is in direct relation with Bravos storyline
With great power comes great responsibility.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
April 02 2013 13:28 GMT
#12686
Loved this first episode. I'm getting a really good vibe about S3.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 02 2013 13:36 GMT
#12687
On April 02 2013 22:28 Dreamer.T wrote:
Loved this first episode. I'm getting a really good vibe about S3.

Me too it was really good. As a book reader I hope they stay as far away from the book as possible and just focus on the main characters - for the good of the TV show! Lots more Margaery please she's brilliant.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 13:46:05
April 02 2013 13:43 GMT
#12688
On April 02 2013 22:22 MacDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:13 ZasZ. wrote:
On April 02 2013 22:02 MacDo wrote:
On April 02 2013 21:48 daemir wrote:
The deserter was still no innocent. Did you see what kind of people Yoren was taking to serve at the wall? Where he got those from? Yea the dungeons. Innocent people don't exactly volunteer for a life sentence at the wall.


And? Sam, Jon and more people are in the Night’s Watch they are not criminal. Ned label him has deserter because he could not get back to wall alive. His whole ranger unit got masacred by 1 white walker.


No...Ned labeled him a deserter because he deserted the wall. They caught him well south of the wall (near Winterfell) running for his life. Even though he saw some fucked up shit, that doesn't make him less of a deserter. It doesn't matter what he did to get put on the wall, they forgive that when you get there. But when you desert you forfeit your life, Ned was just upholding the law.


Because Winterfell's a close town south of the wall.


Winterfell is nowhere near the wall. map


You don't get it. You're not allowed to go south of the wall unless you have express permission to do so. They don't let the members go to Mole's Town for example, but don't enforce it as strongly. This guy completely deserted. He purposely left the wall because he got scared and he was executed by Ned for it. Your argument here is really bad.

When you join the Black you give up everything - your family, your crimes.

If you're arguing at daemir still, yeah, daemir is wrong, but your argument about that is horrible. Ned was completely justified in every way to killing the deserter.
There is no one like you in the universe.
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
April 02 2013 13:48 GMT
#12689
I'm kinda pissed sam didnt send those ravens, it was his only job !

Awesome first episode, im so excited for next week !
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
April 02 2013 13:59 GMT
#12690
On April 02 2013 22:48 graan wrote:
I'm kinda pissed sam didnt send those ravens, it was his only job !

Awesome first episode, im so excited for next week !


I laughed so hard at that moment ... couldn't stop thinking of all those "you only had one job" pictures on the internet ...
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 02 2013 14:00 GMT
#12691
Man, it's been a while. I almost forgot everything.

It's hard to say at this point if Margaery is genuinely benevolent or only faking it. She might be for real. She's ambitious and wants to be the queen, but we haven't seen anything evil out of her. A woman who is both kind and strong seems incompatible with Joffrey, which is probably why Cersei antagonizes her. Sansa was much easier to control.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1969 Posts
April 02 2013 14:10 GMT
#12692
Well, she already showed what she will do to become the queen. In season 2 she was very direct to Renly about anything, she might have given in to taking her brother with her and Renly into bed if only it would give her the throne. Mabye she was just saying it to get him mad though. The conversation with Littlefinger did also show, that she is kind of flexible. She is pictured as being more likeable so she must be really evil. See littlefinger. In the end, Cersei has a set morale and codex. She will do anything to protect her children and with that her position of power. That makes her hated but easily calculated. Who knows what Maergery wants beside being Queen.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
April 02 2013 14:18 GMT
#12693
On April 02 2013 22:48 graan wrote:
I'm kinda pissed sam didnt send those ravens, it was his only job !

Awesome first episode, im so excited for next week !



I don't really know why he was expected to send ravens. He was no where near them when he was surrounded at the end of last season, and as far as we know he did not meet up with any of the other night's watch until he ran into Mormont. No idea why the white walkers let him live when they had him surrounded, but then a lone wight tries to kill Sam at the start of this season. I understand cutting the battle for budget reasons, but having Sam surrounded and the White Walker look directly at him and then inexplicably live was pretty poor writing. They could have at least made it seem like Sam successfully hid or something.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
April 02 2013 14:20 GMT
#12694
On April 02 2013 22:43 Blisse wrote:
map

Wow, I'd never really taken a look at a map of Westeros before. But looking at it now and knowing that Rob just took Harrenhal, he's ridiculously close to King's Landing compared to how far he is from Winterfell. That's impressive.
Sup.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-02 14:25:08
April 02 2013 14:20 GMT
#12695
On April 02 2013 22:26 KainiT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:13 doner0 wrote:
On April 02 2013 22:09 KainiT wrote:
How is it possible that Davos survived on that rock? Let alone that he was in the middle of the wildfire explosion, isn't this supposed to be a couple of weeks after the blackwater battle? Seems a little strange to me.

suspend disbelief my friend. but more importantly it never states the time when the next episode takes place and it also never made it implicit where he was in terms of his fleet. but i will admit it is questionable because the pirate captain, forgot his name which makes me ashamed of myself, does state that stannis is already hiding back at his "rock" but this could just mean that stannis is going back to the island rather than explicitly there


There were quite a lot of hints on how long the episode is supposed to be after Blackwater, for example when Tyrion complains about his father never visiting, but yes the thing with Stannis already being back at dragonstone is the most striking one as it is in direct relation with Bravos storyline


Keep in mind (see the map above) that Dragonstone is a small island at the mouth of Blackwater Bay. It's not unusual at all that Stannis could make it back there before Davos is rescued.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 02 2013 14:35 GMT
#12696
On April 02 2013 23:00 Scorch wrote:
Man, it's been a while. I almost forgot everything.
It's hard to say at this point if Margaery is genuinely benevolent or only faking it. She might be for real. She's ambitious and wants to be the queen, but we haven't seen anything evil out of her. A woman who is both kind and strong seems incompatible with Joffrey, which is probably why Cersei antagonizes her. Sansa was much easier to control.

Not to mention intelligent She obviously doesn't care about Joffrey at all, it's just a means to an end for her.
On April 02 2013 23:20 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:43 Blisse wrote:
map

Wow, I'd never really taken a look at a map of Westeros before. But looking at it now and knowing that Rob just took Harrenhal, he's ridiculously close to King's Landing compared to how far he is from Winterfell. That's impressive.

Looking at those pictures it looks a hell of a lot like England and France. And the Romans built a wall to keep the Scots out... Yeah there's lots of similarities. I'm sure I'm stating the obvious and you all already know that, but I've only just realised!
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
April 02 2013 14:41 GMT
#12697
On April 02 2013 23:20 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:43 Blisse wrote:
map

Wow, I'd never really taken a look at a map of Westeros before. But looking at it now and knowing that Rob just took Harrenhal, he's ridiculously close to King's Landing compared to how far he is from Winterfell. That's impressive.

Robert Baratheon DID say that Ned's kingdom was bigger than the other 6 put together.
graan
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany589 Posts
April 02 2013 15:06 GMT
#12698
On April 02 2013 23:18 karazax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:48 graan wrote:
I'm kinda pissed sam didnt send those ravens, it was his only job !

Awesome first episode, im so excited for next week !



I don't really know why he was expected to send ravens. He was no where near them when he was surrounded at the end of last season, and as far as we know he did not meet up with any of the other night's watch until he ran into Mormont. No idea why the white walkers let him live when they had him surrounded, but then a lone wight tries to kill Sam at the start of this season. I understand cutting the battle for budget reasons, but having Sam surrounded and the White Walker look directly at him and then inexplicably live was pretty poor writing. They could have at least made it seem like Sam successfully hid or something.


I thought the Walkers led him live to tell 'they are back'.

I'm now under the impression, after this episode, that in the scene its the first time he caught up with the rangers, meaning he just run in fear and didnt went back directly to the camp and send the ravens, which was his job at the wall, wasnt it?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8281 Posts
April 02 2013 15:09 GMT
#12699
On April 02 2013 23:35 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 23:00 Scorch wrote:
Man, it's been a while. I almost forgot everything.
It's hard to say at this point if Margaery is genuinely benevolent or only faking it. She might be for real. She's ambitious and wants to be the queen, but we haven't seen anything evil out of her. A woman who is both kind and strong seems incompatible with Joffrey, which is probably why Cersei antagonizes her. Sansa was much easier to control.

Not to mention intelligent She obviously doesn't care about Joffrey at all, it's just a means to an end for her.
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 23:20 dudeman001 wrote:
On April 02 2013 22:43 Blisse wrote:
map

Wow, I'd never really taken a look at a map of Westeros before. But looking at it now and knowing that Rob just took Harrenhal, he's ridiculously close to King's Landing compared to how far he is from Winterfell. That's impressive.

Looking at those pictures it looks a hell of a lot like England and France. And the Romans built a wall to keep the Scots out... Yeah there's lots of similarities. I'm sure I'm stating the obvious and you all already know that, but I've only just realised!


I do believe I remember G.R.R saying the top half of westeros is modeled after ireland upside down or something. I'm sure the rest is inspired by real world areas as well.
Tiwo
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands306 Posts
April 02 2013 15:10 GMT
#12700
On April 02 2013 23:20 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2013 22:43 Blisse wrote:
map

Wow, I'd never really taken a look at a map of Westeros before. But looking at it now and knowing that Rob just took Harrenhal, he's ridiculously close to King's Landing compared to how far he is from Winterfell. That's impressive.


I think you would like this Map better, It helped me more the way daenerys took from Pentos to Quarth and now with boat to Astapor in Slaver's bay. (I noticed many people think that she is close to Westeros)

Note: This is not a official map, but speculative by the books, so this map includes all known cities, but does not contain spoilers from what I found for the eyes who only saw the series.
Prev 1 633 634 635 636 637 1836 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
19:00
Weekly #153 (SHIN Mod Edition)
Percival vs YoungYakovLIVE!
TBD vs Shameless
CranKy Ducklings77
CranKy Ducklings SOOP8
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
BRAT_OK 24
SHIN 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6135
Bisu 3699
Hyuk 1167
Horang2 1049
BeSt 300
firebathero 249
Mini 244
Soma 219
Larva 215
scan(afreeca) 197
[ Show more ]
Mind 106
Rush 96
Last 93
ToSsGirL 88
Pusan 68
Soulkey 65
Creator 49
Sea.KH 40
Killer 36
Shinee 30
NaDa 28
sorry 19
Movie 18
sSak 16
yabsab 16
Noble 13
Hm[arnc] 11
soO 8
910 7
Dota 2
Fuzer 122
Counter-Strike
fl0m379
Other Games
summit1g11358
B2W.Neo334
DeMusliM211
MindelVK13
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL13476
Other Games
gamesdonequick575
ComeBackTV 358
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 9 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2320
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
1h 2m
Epic.LAN
2h 2m
IPSL
5h 2m
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
6h 2m
OSC
1d 3h
Yamato Cup
1d 4h
IPSL
1d 6h
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
1d 12h
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
Ultimate Battle
2 days
Rush vs BeSt
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-30
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.