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I loved that episode. Really good set up for the rest of the season, obviously still needing to set up some plot lines next week, but I really enjoyed it. Dat scene between Tyrion and Tywin was pure gold.
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How have you guys been watching this? Is there a way to watch this without paying a monthly HBO/netflix subscription fee but a per-episode fee like amazon instant video? I would pay the monthly fee if I were going to watch other videos they provide but I'm only going to be watching this series.
edit: should've mentioned I'm looking for a legal way to view episodes
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On April 02 2013 15:20 EpiK wrote:
How have you guys been watching this? Is there a way to watch this without paying a monthly HBO/netflix subscription fee but a per-episode fee like amazon instant video? I would pay the monthly fee if I were going to watch other videos they provide but I'm only going to be watching this series.
You can pay for it, or you can get it illegally. Everyone who has seen it has done one of the two. I don't really endorse the second option, so I would suggest giving the first choice another look. The series really is awesome, but paying a monthly fee to see it does suck...
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On April 02 2013 15:20 EpiK wrote:
How have you guys been watching this? Is there a way to watch this without paying a monthly HBO/netflix subscription fee but a per-episode fee like amazon instant video? I would pay the monthly fee if I were going to watch other videos they provide but I'm only going to be watching this series.
Have you never used Google before? Just search for game of thrones stream or whatever and there will be websites where you can watch every past episode and new ones hours after it airs
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Dany's storyline has always been my least favorite in the show but now I'm starting to enjoy it a bit more with this episode
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My nipples hurt! And they might have invested more in CGI for the scorpion in the last 2 minutes than in the dragons themselves (not saying the dragons were bad but seriously that scorpion could have been a boss in any video game ...)
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On April 02 2013 19:14 Emix_Squall wrote:
My nipples hurt! And they might have invested more in CGI for the scorpion in the last 2 minutes than in the dragons themselves (not saying the dragons were bad but seriously that scorpion could have been a boss in any video game ...)
I thought he'd just kill the guy to prove they really aren't afraid of death or something. But damn, he cut of the guys' nipple.
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On April 02 2013 13:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. Tywin reminds me of like your typical conservative grandfather. Likable in a lot of ways, and probably a good person, but some of his ideals just get in the way.
Tywin a good person? Hah! Tywin is a great commander and ruler, incredibly smart and a badass character, but he is no way a good person. He dispises his son simply for having been born a dwarf, and is probably responsible for more atrocities than any other living person in Westeros.
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On April 02 2013 19:48 Mataru wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 13:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. Tywin reminds me of like your typical conservative grandfather. Likable in a lot of ways, and probably a good person, but some of his ideals just get in the way. Tywin a good person? Hah! Tywin is a great commander and ruler, incredibly smart and a badass character, but he is no way a good person. He dispises his son simply for having been born a dwarf, and is probably responsible for more atrocities than any other living person in Westeros.
You miss a point made in season 2 when Tyrion talk with Cersei one of the main reason they hate him it's because her mother died when she gave birth to Tyrion.
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On April 02 2013 19:26 OrchidThief wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 19:14 Emix_Squall wrote:
My nipples hurt! And they might have invested more in CGI for the scorpion in the last 2 minutes than in the dragons themselves (not saying the dragons were bad but seriously that scorpion could have been a boss in any video game ...) I thought he'd just kill the guy to prove they really aren't afraid of death or something. But damn, he cut of the guys' nipple.
I guess it would be a waste of perfectly good unsullied to just kill one to make a point. Considering how much effort goes into training each one of them a nipple isn't really that much in comparison (though goddamn that was squeem inducing.)
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On April 02 2013 20:30 MacDo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 19:48 Mataru wrote:On April 02 2013 13:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. Tywin reminds me of like your typical conservative grandfather. Likable in a lot of ways, and probably a good person, but some of his ideals just get in the way. Tywin a good person? Hah! Tywin is a great commander and ruler, incredibly smart and a badass character, but he is no way a good person. He dispises his son simply for having been born a dwarf, and is probably responsible for more atrocities than any other living person in Westeros. You miss a point made in season 2 when Tyrion talk with Cersei one of the main reason they hate him it's because her mother died when she gave birth to Tyrion.
Tywin made that point himself to Tyrion in the latest episode. Not sure whether it's fair to blame him for that though :/
As for the Tywin as a good person thing, I think season 2 played a lot with that impression when in his conversations with Arya he appeared more or less likeable and benign. But when he thought an assassin was after him because the guard guy got killed on the doorstep by Jaken H'kar (sp?), we saw/heard a little later that he had hundreds tortured and executed trying to find the assassin, and didn't give a rat's ass about these people. As a power player and politician he is ruthless.
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On April 02 2013 20:42 FrogOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 20:30 MacDo wrote:On April 02 2013 19:48 Mataru wrote:On April 02 2013 13:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. Tywin reminds me of like your typical conservative grandfather. Likable in a lot of ways, and probably a good person, but some of his ideals just get in the way. Tywin a good person? Hah! Tywin is a great commander and ruler, incredibly smart and a badass character, but he is no way a good person. He dispises his son simply for having been born a dwarf, and is probably responsible for more atrocities than any other living person in Westeros. You miss a point made in season 2 when Tyrion talk with Cersei one of the main reason they hate him it's because her mother died when she gave birth to Tyrion. Tywin made that point himself to Tyrion in the latest episode. Not sure whether it's fair to blame him for that though :/ As for the Tywin as a good person thing, I think season 2 played a lot with that impression when in his conversations with Arya he appeared more or less likeable and benign. But when he thought an assassin was after him because the guard guy got killed on the doorstep by Jaken H'kar (sp?), we saw/heard a little later that he had hundreds tortured and executed trying to find the assassin, and didn't give a rat's ass about these people. As a power player and politician he is ruthless.
Ned killed a innocent man, majority of people see him like a really good person. I just think Tywin really loved her and can't turn the page, he spend his frustration on Tyrion. Being a dwarf make him a easy target. Like 95% people in Westeros have blood on their hands.
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he did not kill an innocent man?
he killed a deserter of the nights watch. the penalty for which is death.
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On April 02 2013 21:23 Gene wrote:
he did not kill an innocent man?
The one Ned executed in the first 10min, this guys told the true about white walkers. Ned was too lazy to look into it.
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The deserter was still no innocent. Did you see what kind of people Yoren was taking to serve at the wall? Where he got those from? Yea the dungeons. Innocent people don't exactly volunteer for a life sentence at the wall.
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On April 02 2013 21:44 MacDo wrote:The one Ned executed in the first 10min, this guys told the true about white walkers. Ned was too lazy to look into it.
You desert the Night's Watch, you die when you are caught. There's no special exception for when you're trying to save the world (or save your own ass). Especially not for a man like Ned. The guy wasn't innocent. The Night's Watch is for life.
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On April 02 2013 21:44 MacDo wrote:The one Ned executed in the first 10min, this guys told the true about white walkers. Ned was too lazy to look into it.
He wasn't killed because Ned didn't believe him. He was killed for deserting the Night's Watch. Had he returned to the wall and reported back to the Lord Commander, he would have been fine (he may not have been believed, but that's a different story).
He wasn't executed for being a liar (or an assumed liar).
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On April 02 2013 21:48 daemir wrote:
The deserter was still no innocent. Did you see what kind of people Yoren was taking to serve at the wall? Where he got those from? Yea the dungeons. Innocent people don't exactly volunteer for a life sentence at the wall.
That's not always the case. You can choose to volunteer without being forced to go (ex: Jon Snow, Benjen Stark)
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On April 02 2013 21:48 daemir wrote:
The deserter was still no innocent. Did you see what kind of people Yoren was taking to serve at the wall? Where he got those from? Yea the dungeons. Innocent people don't exactly volunteer for a life sentence at the wall.
And? Sam, Jon and more people are in the Night’s Watch they are not criminal. Ned label him has deserter because he could not get back to wall alive. His whole ranger unit got masacred by 1 white walker.
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How is it possible that Davos survived on that rock? Let alone that he was in the middle of the wildfire explosion, isn't this supposed to be a couple of weeks after the blackwater battle? Seems a little strange to me.
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