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At the dinner table when Cersei brings up how Margaery stopped in the poor section of the city to talk to the children and give food out.. etc. I think the look she gave was more of regret and sort of questioning her decision of talking Joffrey into accepting Margaery as the new queen. What I mean by this is when Sansa was going to be queen Cersei pretty much had her under control and things were simpler but by hearing this new story of what Margaery did in the poor district and her words at dinner it made her realize that maybe Margaery will actually try and run things with her position of power. Thus making Cersei worried.
I could be wrong but yeah, just my two cents. Will be interesting to see in future episodes how those two (Cersei and Margaery) interact and if Margaery begins to use her power for things that Cersei doesn't want. Will her relationship change with Sansa because of this?
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I love this show! The Khalessi is about to start kicking ass! Also barriston selmy showing back up is also awesome. Can't wait for the story beyond the wall to develop more.
Also please BAN all the people who even mention the word "book" please!!!!!!!! They are indeed major spoilers and if we really wanted to know more we would go to the book thread, not the NON SPOILER THREAD.
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On April 02 2013 07:54 Shelke14 wrote:
At the dinner table when Cersei brings up how Margaery stopped in the poor section of the city to talk to the children and give food out.. etc. I think the look she gave was more of regret and sort of questioning her decision of talking Joffrey into accepting Margaery as the new queen. What I mean by this is when Sansa was going to be queen Cersei pretty much had her under control and things were simpler but by hearing this new story of what Margaery did in the poor district and her words at dinner it made her realize that maybe Margaery will actually try and run things with her position of power. Thus making Cersei worried.
I could be wrong but yeah, just my two cents. Will be interesting to see in future episodes how those two (Cersei and Margaery) interact and if Margaery begins to use her power for things that Cersei doesn't want. Will her relationship change with Sansa because of this?
Thats a sensible approach. Margaery also has a strong backing from her kingdom. Compared to Sansa, who had a father who everyone thought to be a traitor.
On April 02 2013 08:04 Beorn1 wrote:
I love this show! The Khalessi is about to start kicking ass! Also barriston selmy showing back up is also awesome. Can't wait for the story beyond the wall to develop more.
Also please BAN all the people who even mention the word "book" please!!!!!!!! They are indeed major spoilers and if we really wanted to know more we would go to the book thread, not the NON SPOILER THREAD.
The dragons just seem so OP, and theyre still just babies. I thought the Qarth warlock wouldnt die so easily to them. But I was so wrong.
I guess its also important to note, about what the warlock said, that dragons were stronger when near their mother. Maybe thats why he died so easily. But then again he also said that warlocks were stronger near dragons too, but I guess not strong enough.
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On April 02 2013 07:54 Shelke14 wrote:
At the dinner table when Cersei brings up how Margaery stopped in the poor section of the city to talk to the children and give food out.. etc. I think the look she gave was more of regret and sort of questioning her decision of talking Joffrey into accepting Margaery as the new queen. What I mean by this is when Sansa was going to be queen Cersei pretty much had her under control and things were simpler but by hearing this new story of what Margaery did in the poor district and her words at dinner it made her realize that maybe Margaery will actually try and run things with her position of power. Thus making Cersei worried.
I could be wrong but yeah, just my two cents. Will be interesting to see in future episodes how those two (Cersei and Margaery) interact and if Margaery begins to use her power for things that Cersei doesn't want. Will her relationship change with Sansa because of this?
Yes, its exactly that. It was pretty obvious from the second season that Cerscei is an incredibly paranoid woman (all that delusional talk about tyrion wanting to take her children away from her...) it also seems like she suspects anyone around her who is competent or seems to understand the game of conspiring against her
remember that thing she said, "Ruling is lying over a bed of weed, pulling them out one by one".
it seems like Margaery might replace Tyrion as the target of Cersceis paranoid delusions, and she might feel a certain rivalry for Joffreys love. Joffrey never really loved Sansa judging from what he told Cerscei in season 1, so she probably felt safer with her.
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Remember, the very first time we see cerscei in S01E01, the first thing jamie says is "You worry too much, it is starting to show"  already then, before the war and all the trouble started to happen, she was being paranoid about what Jon Arryn might have known. She seems to live in constant fear of losing her position or the things she holds dear ("its all falling on me now")
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On April 02 2013 08:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
The dragons just seem so OP, and theyre still just babies. I thought the Qarth warlock wouldnt die so easily to them. But I was so wrong.
I guess its also important to note, about what the warlock said, that dragons were stronger when near their mother. Maybe thats why he died so easily. But then again he also said that warlocks were stronger near dragons too, but I guess not strong enough.
The Dragons seem to be some kind of center and source of magic in the world. Remember, before the dragons were born we didnt see any magic in the series. then in season two people started to give birth to shadow demons, change their appearances by moving their hands across their face, and the warlocks who could teleport and create illusions that could kill.
Didnt the warlock literary say "when your dragons were born, our magic was born again"?
and yes, dragons are totally overpowered. Three of them was enough for Aegon and his sisters (cant remember their names, only mentioned once by Arya so far) to conquer Westeros in the first place 
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On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO.
Absolutely.
Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy.
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On April 02 2013 08:35 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 08:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
The dragons just seem so OP, and theyre still just babies. I thought the Qarth warlock wouldnt die so easily to them. But I was so wrong.
I guess its also important to note, about what the warlock said, that dragons were stronger when near their mother. Maybe thats why he died so easily. But then again he also said that warlocks were stronger near dragons too, but I guess not strong enough. The Dragons seem to be some kind of center and source of magic in the world. Remember, before the dragons were born we didnt see any magic in the series. then in season two people started to give birth to shadow demons, change their appearances by moving their hands across their face, and the warlocks who could teleport and create illusions that could kill. Didnt the warlock literary say "when your dragons where born, our magic was born again"?
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On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy.
lol. Apparently not...
Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin.
Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy.
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On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy.
As cringe worthy as that scene was, man it was well written and well performed.
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Haha, yeah thats how I feel too Falling. Hopefully there is a lot of Arya next week. Probably my favorite story line together with Jon Snow.
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On April 02 2013 03:22 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 02:10 Just_a_Moth wrote:On April 01 2013 17:05 Emnjay808 wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. I think she really was sincere, which is prolly why Cercei was giving her the stink eye during dinner (out of envy). Or maybe Cercei knew what act she was playing and wished she could act that well herself. Who knows.. I hope she is sincere. Would be really interesting if her motivation to be THE queen was actually partially or completely so that she could do more good stuff. Where as it's more expected that she's just bullshitting it to seem like a good queen. The second reason would not necessarily be a bad thing either though. The hungry masses probably could not care less if she feeds them to become popular or if she has fun doing it.
Yeah, but it's so expected for characters in this series to be two-faced that it would interesting if she was not.
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On April 02 2013 10:45 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. As cringe worthy as that scene was, man it was well written and well performed.
Charles Dance is just doomed to dominate all his scenes. Dunno if he'll ever run into Stephen Dillane or Cirian Hines but that'll just be an English stage actor explosion of intenseness. Hines is probably Irish - but you know.
EDIT: Hinds not Hines, oops.
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^ Well they did a better April Fool's than Blizzard.
On April 02 2013 10:45 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. As cringe worthy as that scene was, man it was well written and well performed.
Peter Dinklage has been so unbelievably good as Tyrion.
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On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy.
Tywin reminds me of like your typical conservative grandfather. Likable in a lot of ways, and probably a good person, but some of his ideals just get in the way.
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On April 02 2013 13:35 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:April fools...
haha I'm a little late, but that might have shocked me for a few minutes had I seen it earlier xD
Also the first comment points out a clear hint:
"You can tell it is a joke because they say that Big Bang Theory is a good show."
>___>
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On April 02 2013 10:45 Tewks44 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote:On April 02 2013 08:45 zatic wrote:On April 01 2013 23:33 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 23:19 sc2holar wrote:On April 01 2013 23:15 Conti wrote:On April 01 2013 15:21 Just_a_Moth wrote:
Damn, if Margerie was actually sincere in her kindness towards the poor then that was pretty unexpected. Seems like she'd probably be a really good queen. That scene reminded me of all those photo-ops the politicians do when they visit an orphanage or something. It seems to me she knows exactly what she is doing, and she knows that she can't rule King's Landing when the people hate her. Also, can we please stop with all the "in the books" comparisons? They're still spoilers, no matter how minor, and a decently intelligent person can deduct a lot of information from those posts. We have a very strict no spoiler policy in this thread for a reason. Comparing things with the books might be a bad thing, but i dont see anything wrong with providing basic lore/information that we learn pretty early on in the books but is never mentioned in the tv-series. for example, if you only watched the tv-series you might not know what the valyrian empire was, or who rhaegar targaryen really was. this is shameful because these things did have a hyge impact on how the story from the very begining, and if you knew about it things would probably make more sense. Sure, but some of the things mentioned in the last few pages went much further than that, explaining how scene X never happened in the book or why character Y said what he said, etc. Things went a bit too far, IMO. Absolutely. Bans will be handed out for every spoiler from the books, doesn't matter how unimportant. Simply use the other thread if you want to talk about the books. It's that easy. lol. Apparently not... Tywin-Arya got me temporarily liking Tywin. Tywin-Tyrion reminded me why I hated the guy. As cringe worthy as that scene was, man it was well written and well performed.
those two are clearly the best actors on the show imo
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