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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
On December 03 2012 14:47 LoLAdriankat wrote: Kit Harington and Alfie Allen are the only ones that read the books, as far as I know. Emilia Clarke says she's reading the books, but trying to not get too far ahead of where she actually is in the series, to avoid having that influence her acting. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
Dany's almost came off like a parody with some of her lines. A part that really stuck out is when she is starving in the desert and says she and her people will die if they don't get let into the city, then threatens to come back when her dragons are grown and burn the city to the ground when they are refused entrance.... Which would be pretty hard to do after they starved. I'm hopeful that with more screen time they can improve things, but I'm a lot more doubtful than I was after season 1. | ||
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MicroTastiC
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TigerKarl
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On December 04 2012 01:37 MicroTastiC wrote: this show sucked in the last season imo. i dont understand why thyere not following to the book story line. such a huge letdown. Stop lying about such things. They are following the book story line. The fact that they're adapting things to tv is widely considered as ok, there's only a few storylines where change seems unnecessary (mainly robb+wife) and they rightfully got criticized for that. So pretending that they would not be "following to the book story line" is just aimed at creating hatred or is a statement by someone, who hasn't watched the show at all. | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
On December 04 2012 02:16 TigerKarl wrote: Stop lying about such things. They are following the book story line. The fact that they're adapting things to tv is widely considered as ok, there's only a few storylines where change seems unnecessary (mainly robb+wife) and they rightfully got criticized for that. So pretending that they would not be "following to the book story line" is just aimed at creating hatred or is a statement by someone, who hasn't watched the show at all. I felt the Qarth part was really strange compared to the books. However, I don't really care about the differences, I can eat the cake and have it too, since I can read the books and watch the series as two seperate things. | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
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Syndic
Switzerland18 Posts
On December 04 2012 01:37 MicroTastiC wrote: this show sucked in the last season imo. i dont understand why thyere not following to the book story line. such a huge letdown. Because it is an adaption. Every movie/series of a book is one. If you bring a book, especially such a big series of doorstopers like A Song of Ice and Fire to the big (or small) picture they have to face a lot of restrictions which an authors simply does not have: Time In one season they have 10h screen time. The audiobook of A Game of Thrones alone has 33h and A Storm of Swords (Book 3) reaches 47h. They have to cut and condense to bring it all under one hood. And from Book 4 onward they have to bring the whole timeline together which are split in Book 4 and the beginning of Book 5. Money Imagination is cheap. It costs GRRM nothing to describe 30'000's of soldiers on each side of the Battle of Blackwater. Game of Thrones has a huge budget but it is not infinite. CGI alone is very expensive and even "normal" stuff like horses gets really expensive. That is one reason they did not show the first battle of Tyrion (where he got knocked down in the series). Non Readers don't have as much patience They have to keep the audience interested. Some things which work in books just don't translate so well into moving pictures. This includes flashbacks or thoughts for example. Damn I would LOVE to see the Tower of Joy scene in the series, but I understand why it would confuse non readers. Imaginations differ a lot And most importantly books live by your own imagination. You imagine how people and places look. But each of us has a different picture in mind. It is simple impossible to please everyone. That is the reason it is called an adaption. View it as the books from the view of the David Benioff and Daniel Weiss. And on top of that they have to combine this fact with the 3 restrictions above. The HBO series is based on the books but they are not a 1:1 retell and should not be judged as such. View it like a alternate timeline. And I don't say that they do everything how I imagined it, but it is their story and till now I enjoyed a lot of it. | ||
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Irrelevant Label
United States596 Posts
On December 04 2012 02:16 TigerKarl wrote: Stop lying about such things. They are following the book story line. The fact that they're adapting things to tv is widely considered as ok, there's only a few storylines where change seems unnecessary (mainly robb+wife) and they rightfully got criticized for that. So pretending that they would not be "following to the book story line" is just aimed at creating hatred or is a statement by someone, who hasn't watched the show at all. I had to double check which thread I'm in. This is close to belonging in the other one and I wouldn't particularly disagree with a mod who came by and told us to move. This is one of those third thread situations the asoiaf/got discussions sometimes get into. They did change the Dany and Arya stories, and the Dany and Arya characters, in ways that go beyond adaptations to the screen and for the screen audience. The one you mention is of course also 'unnecessary' by this definition. Most of the "they changed it!" whining is just what you say though, whining over details when the story was not meaningfully changed. 'A bit different but still good' and a bit bemused by the stance that holds any difference to be automatically bad is my stance. I mean, WTF is this blip at the end of the season 3 development video? Those two are fighting on top of a bridge OVER a ravine/gully? PITCHFORKS! I'll try to calm down and hope that was a rehearsal; surely someone lent mr. Coster-Waldau a hand with that costume so they could relocate to the proper spot for the real shoot. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
On December 04 2012 04:47 Irrelevant Label wrote: I had to double check which thread I'm in. This is close to belonging in the other one and I wouldn't particularly disagree with a mod who came by and told us to move. This is one of those third thread situations the asoiaf/got discussions sometimes get into. They did change the Dany and Arya stories, and the Dany and Arya characters, in ways that go beyond adaptations to the screen and for the screen audience. The one you mention is of course also 'unnecessary' by this definition. Most of the "they changed it!" whining is just what you say though, whining over details when the story was not meaningfully changed. 'A bit different but still good' and a bit bemused by the stance that holds any difference to be automatically bad is my stance. I mean, WTF is this blip at the end of the season 3 development video? Those two are fighting on top of a bridge OVER a ravine/gully? PITCHFORKS! I'll try to calm down and hope that was a rehearsal; surely someone lent mr. Coster-Waldau a hand with that costume so they could relocate to the proper spot for the real shoot. I don't think that any change is automaticly bad, or expect a word for word translation. Most of the changes in episode 9 made sense considering the TV budget and time constraints for example even though there were some big changes there too. Most of season 1 was fairly faithful and with a few exceptions I though the changes made sense or were forgiveable given the limitations of TV. There are other changes that I disliked alot, especially in season 2, that I don't feel can just be dismissed because of the limitations of TV. That being said, any further discussion, particularly of details should probably move to the other thread, because we can't really discuss in any more detail than we have without listing them. | ||
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feanor1
United States1899 Posts
![[image loading]](http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/228274_307776546005277_324642553_n.jpg) I am pretty sure we need to get this on the opening post. Its pretty fricken awesome | ||
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MajuGarzett
Canada635 Posts
On December 04 2012 01:34 karazax wrote: Honestly I thought season 2 was a big disappointment compared to season 1. There were some great moments, but they really twisted the book's story line and not for the better. Episode 9 was mostly great, the rest was a really mixed bag of good and bad stuff, with the Dany and Jon Snow story lines really coming off as lacking. Dany's almost came off like a parody with some of her lines. A part that really stuck out is when she is starving in the desert and says she and her people will die if they don't get let into the city, then threatens to come back when her dragons are grown and burn the city to the ground when they are refused entrance.... Which would be pretty hard to do after they starved. I'm hopeful that with more screen time they can improve things, but I'm a lot more doubtful than I was after season 1. I didn't like the changes to Jon's story but considering that a lot of readers found Dany's storyline too stagnant, I'm glad they've decided to have a more eventful story for her. | ||
zatic
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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malaan
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but oh well... | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
Costume design is marvelous. I love how they gave Edmure Tully and The Blackfish scale armor to go with Tully's house sigil. I'm also impressed that they managed to make someone as small and petite as Emilia Clarke look threatening. | ||
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sninja
Poland207 Posts
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loveless11
Belgium3 Posts
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Harto
Denmark17 Posts
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