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Bronn does like Tyrion but if a better offer comes around he'd snatch it right up.
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On May 16 2012 20:11 Dante08 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 20:07 Emix_Squall wrote:On May 16 2012 19:49 LilClinkin wrote:
If I were Jaime, I'd have killed Areys Targaryan as well. The mad king was truly an asshole. How far can trolling go? Should we still call it trolling when it's actually not funny? So many questions raised ... What are you talking about lol
Edit: my bad, total misunderstanding ... sry
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On May 16 2012 20:17 ShadeR wrote:
Bronn does like Tyrion but if a better offer comes around he'd snatch it right up.
That's why Bronn works with Tyrion. ^^
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On May 16 2012 20:21 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 20:17 ShadeR wrote:
Bronn does like Tyrion but if a better offer comes around he'd snatch it right up. That's why Bronn works with Tyrion. ^^
"Remember that whatever their price is ... I'll beat it" Says it all !
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On May 16 2012 20:20 Emix_Squall wrote:
edit... misunderstanding resolved.
Now I'm curious too. What are you talking about, you're not making any sense? Feel free to PM if you think you're talking about something spoiler-y, I've read the books.
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On May 16 2012 19:15 Flyingdutchman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 18:55 chroniX wrote:Alot of nerds and younger viewers can identify with the situation john is in. Beeing a virgin and inexperienced man, closely together with a woman who is obviously more experienced than him and making naughty remarks about sex all the time and even rubbing her ass against his dick during the night.... Its a wild(ling) fantasy for alot of young men!  haha in their nerd dreams maybe. Ygritte is pretty goodlooking, if you put her in a dress she will turn some heads definitively. I also like how Brienne has been cast. Is she really that tall or is it just due to the camera angles and other tricks?
She really is that tall. The actor is over 190cm. Altough she is a lot prettier in real life
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Many people are still trying to apply manichean values to the characters, when every single one of them is very ambiguous. You can't really call someone a "murderer" in such times, because murder is pretty much a soldier's job. The hound is right : Ned Stark, no matter how honorable, was a master in killing and mostly a soldier, as he confessed himself.
In the end, evey character is guilty of one thing : they want power and the well-being of their families. What about the people of Westeros? Many have made it clear that they don't really care or don't realize that who's King doesn't really concern commoners.
It is indeed a game played by the nobility of the country.
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On May 16 2012 18:35 GhostOwl wrote:
I have a few questions
Robb is going to the place to accept a surrender from the enemies or to surrender? Probably the latter right?
And why was the Lannister boy imprisoned in the 1st place? I thought he was just a messenger?
Oh, and why did Jorah get asked "Will you betray her again? " When did he betray her in the 1st place?
On a side note, the new Wildling girl is not only annoying but ugly...I don't see why you guys are drooling over her, she's below average in my eyes
1)Robb is going to negotiate a surrender from one of Tywin's banner men.
2)The Lannister boy was captured during a battle (it's implied; because why would you imprison someone during war and carrying them with the army).
3)book book book, even though it was explained in the show.
Clearly this person has trouble viewing the tele. Maybe get some spectacles.
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Jorah was spying on Dany for Varys in the first season. Hoping that if she was killed or whatever he would be allowed back into Westeros. She doesn't know that though.
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On May 17 2012 01:26 metbull wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 18:35 GhostOwl wrote:
I have a few questions
Robb is going to the place to accept a surrender from the enemies or to surrender? Probably the latter right?
And why was the Lannister boy imprisoned in the 1st place? I thought he was just a messenger?
Oh, and why did Jorah get asked "Will you betray her again? " When did he betray her in the 1st place?
On a side note, the new Wildling girl is not only annoying but ugly...I don't see why you guys are drooling over her, she's below average in my eyes
1)Robb is going to negotiate a surrender from one of Tywin's banner men. 2)The Lannister boy was captured during a battle (it's implied; because why would you imprison someone during war and carrying them with the army). 3)book book book, even though it was explained in the show. Clearly this person has trouble viewing the tele. Maybe get some spectacles. + Show Spoiler +
Think the 2nd question is more like, why did he even go back to be taken prisoner again, after he gave his msg. Must be something with honor, right ? 
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On May 17 2012 01:46 graan wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 01:26 metbull wrote:On May 16 2012 18:35 GhostOwl wrote:
I have a few questions
Robb is going to the place to accept a surrender from the enemies or to surrender? Probably the latter right?
And why was the Lannister boy imprisoned in the 1st place? I thought he was just a messenger?
Oh, and why did Jorah get asked "Will you betray her again? " When did he betray her in the 1st place?
On a side note, the new Wildling girl is not only annoying but ugly...I don't see why you guys are drooling over her, she's below average in my eyes
1)Robb is going to negotiate a surrender from one of Tywin's banner men. 2)The Lannister boy was captured during a battle (it's implied; because why would you imprison someone during war and carrying them with the army). 3)book book book, even though it was explained in the show. Clearly this person has trouble viewing the tele. Maybe get some spectacles. + Show Spoiler + Think the 2nd question is more like, why did he even go back to be taken prisoner again, after he gave his msg. Must be something with honor, right ?
Probably a little bit of honor but mainly because he's relative, THE QUEEN, gave him a message to deliver ....
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The John Snow side story is getting pretty annoying. The whole thing feels somewhat poorly put-together in comparison to the rest of the series and the content is like ?? what?? are they seriously taking about John being a virgin for 5 minutes? Seems more fit for shows for teenage girls.
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On May 17 2012 01:58 babybell wrote:
The John Snow side story is getting pretty annoying. The whole thing feels somewhat poorly put-together in comparison to the rest of the series and the content is like ?? what?? are they seriously taking about John being a virgin for 5 minutes? Seems more fit for shows for teenage girls.
Agreed. I can't stand his character either -_-
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Alfie Allen (Theon) deserves an Emmy nom for that very last scene alone. and with that epic dramatic music.. so good i cry ever time i rewatch it
![[image loading]](http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3911100/theon.gif)
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On May 16 2012 20:59 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 19:15 Flyingdutchman wrote:On May 16 2012 18:55 chroniX wrote:Alot of nerds and younger viewers can identify with the situation john is in. Beeing a virgin and inexperienced man, closely together with a woman who is obviously more experienced than him and making naughty remarks about sex all the time and even rubbing her ass against his dick during the night.... Its a wild(ling) fantasy for alot of young men! haha in their nerd dreams maybe. Ygritte is pretty goodlooking, if you put her in a dress she will turn some heads definitively. I also like how Brienne has been cast. Is she really that tall or is it just due to the camera angles and other tricks? She really is that tall. The actor is over 190cm. Altough she is a lot prettier in real life
Oh wow, I just googled her...talk about a transformation...
http://www.movieweb.com/news/game-of-thrones-adds-gwendoline-christie-as-brienne-tarth
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On May 16 2012 11:27 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 09:05 Rhine wrote:On May 16 2012 05:10 killa_robot wrote:On May 16 2012 03:14 Mercy13 wrote:On May 16 2012 02:04 killa_robot wrote:On May 15 2012 22:50 Mercy13 wrote:On May 15 2012 19:37 Emix_Squall wrote:On May 15 2012 17:28 Talack wrote:
Jaime, Cersei and Joffery are the bad guys. I would agree on Cersei and Joffrey but as far as Jaime is concerned, I found his character strangely fascinating in this episode. Maybe it was because we hadn't seen him for quite a few episodes but the all talk he had with the squire boy in his cage .... all that leading to what we see him doing is pretty amazing. He has this kind of unique lucidity in the show making him really interesting. As we see when he's talking about how pointless vows are, he is perfectly conscious of everything going on, and clearly explained he had to make the choice to protect what he considered to be the most important thing out of all his potential duties. It might be a bit of a cynical vision but he is probably the most down to earth character, which I think is really interesting in this world where most influential characters are leaving on dreams, assumptions and future possibilities (want to be king, should be king, should be free, should claim what's hers etc ....). On the Bran and Rickon chapter, I think Theon already started to gain trust from his men with several actions. IMO, what happened after the Grandmaester of Winterfell was sent back there from the farm is that Theon and his men tortured the farmer to tell them where they went, he resisted so he basically tortured his child in front of him to make him talk. The guy might or might not have spoken (and he might or might not have known anything about their destination) but anyway his kids were tortured and Theon probably decided he could use those bodies as a warning to the people of Winterfell. Considering Bran, Rickon, Hodor and the woman were probably gone from that farm, it would not lower his men esteem to use other bodies pretending they are the Stark kids, especially when these bodies are used in such a cruel fashion which Greyjoys seem to affectionate. He probably still got a few men chasing the Stark boys though. Jaime is a much more sympathetic character when you consider his past. I think when he was younger he was a much more "honorable" person, who was constantly thrust into positions where there were no good decisions to make. He loved Cersei, but wasn't suppose to... you know. He had to stand by while King Aeres did horrific things to people. He was ordered by his father (maybe?) to kill Aeres finally, even though by doing so he broke his vow to protect the king. Given these events, I don't think it's too surprising that he turned out incredibly cynical, especially with someone as ruthless as Tywin for a father. Also, I think his comment about only ever sleeping with Cersei was interesting. He is more faithful to her than Robert ever was. IMO the only truley evil characters in the show are Joffrey and Gregor Clegane, and maybe Theon. The rest of the characters all have significant redeeming qualities, esp. Jaime! Ruthless to others maybe, but not to his children. Remember how Tywin talked to Arya about how he spent like 3 hours every day teaching Jaime to read? He has high expectations of his children, but he treats them way better than anyone else. In their world pretty much everyone has had to see terrible things, that's hardly a reason for them turning "evil". Jaime says several times that killing is the only thing he is good at, and that he would be useless at anything else. It's not as though he's simply the product of his past. He WANTS to kill others. Hell, if you watch interviews from the crew they say themselves that while Jaime is an interesting(even likeable) character, there is no arguing that he is a psychotic murderer. Being able to stay cool under pressure and being able to back talk like a boss aren't exactly redeeming qualities, they just make him seem cool. I def. agree with your last paragraph, but those weren't the qualities I was referring to. Jaime is kind to Tyrion and has always been loyal to Cersei. I'm not arguing that he's a good guy, just "sympathetic" once you look at things from his point of view. I also disagree that he wants to kill others. He enjoys fighting, and will certainly not hesitate to kill, but he would not kill at random or for pure enjoyment (*coughjoffreycough*). And as for Tywin not being ruthless to his children... do you remember the story about Tyrion and his wife? Don't judge his parenting skills just based off that one anecdote about teaching Jaime to read. I think people are judging Tywin too kindly because of the grandfatherly scenes he has with Arya. In that same scene we see him terrorizing his own soldiers and ordering Clegane to rape and murder the surrounding farm communities. He killed his cousin to escape, when he could have just as easily told his cousin to scream and then play dead, as the only reason for killing him was to get the guard to enter the cell. He made the choice to kill him rather than to not. You can't really judge Tywin's parenting style for Cersei or Jaime based on what he did with Tyrion. Both he and Cersei hate Tyrion for killing Joanna (Tywin's wife and Cersei's mother), and they aren't exactly subtle about it. You can feel sympathy for all the characters in the series, even Jofferey. Jofferey was pretty much handed everything in life, and was constantly told he was great and would one day be king. That sort of upbringing would turn most people into what he became. Why do you think Jaime hates Tyrion? I mean i'm sure he wasn't happy about it, but I think they're pretty cordial (other than some jabs in episode 2). I said Tywin and Cersei hate Tyrion lol.
Oops, sorry! Misunderstood.
Man that Theon scene...you can just see his "I've made a huge mistake" face allthroughout these episodes. He's going deeper and deeper. Go big or go home i guess.
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Hi guys, I'm new here and I just wanna start by saying that this is the most amazing show ever and that my favorite characters are Tyrion, Aria and Jon Snow
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I don't think Alfie Allen is doing that good of a job. Def a lot of people out acting him.
That new Arya gif is awesome!
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On May 17 2012 02:09 EvilTeletubby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 17 2012 01:58 babybell wrote:
The John Snow side story is getting pretty annoying. The whole thing feels somewhat poorly put-together in comparison to the rest of the series and the content is like ?? what?? are they seriously taking about John being a virgin for 5 minutes? Seems more fit for shows for teenage girls. Agreed. I can't stand his character either -_-
that may be annoying but his story of independence is something i can relate to since i'm a bastard too can't wait for him to use that awesome sword ;_;
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