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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 14 2012 20:15 GMT
#9761
Are the writers trying to get viewers to feel sorry for Cersie or something? Her scene with Sansa and Tyrion feel like they are trying to have us feel sorry for her regrets and current situation (specifically where she went wrong with Joff) . But then just last episode she was threatening Tyrion after Mycella was leaving King's Landing, and a few episode before she seemed amused when discussing how Sansa's brother would die.

I dunno, just seemed wierd how they tried to work that out.

Overall great episode. I love the conflicting interactions between Arya/Tywin, Jon/Ygritte, Cat/Jaime. Actor playign Jaime is amazing, and the actress as Ygritte is special too lol. Dany's scene overall this entire season to me has been boring, but I expected that until she gets out of Quarth/ dragon's have matured. And I thought this seasons 10 episodes, yet the preview for episode 8 says otherwise
Forever Young
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
May 14 2012 20:20 GMT
#9762
On May 15 2012 05:15 sung_moon wrote:
Are the writers trying to get viewers to feel sorry for Cersie or something? Her scene with Sansa and Tyrion feel like they are trying to have us feel sorry for her regrets and current situation (specifically where she went wrong with Joff) . But then just last episode she was threatening Tyrion after Mycella was leaving King's Landing, and a few episode before she seemed amused when discussing how Sansa's brother would die.

I dunno, just seemed wierd how they tried to work that out.

Overall great episode. I love the conflicting interactions between Arya/Tywin, Jon/Ygritte, Cat/Jaime. Actor playign Jaime is amazing, and the actress as Ygritte is special too lol. Dany's scene overall this entire season to me has been boring, but I expected that until she gets out of Quarth/ dragon's have matured. And I thought this seasons 10 episodes, yet the preview for episode 8 says otherwise


I don't think it's as much about making us feel sorry for her necesarily, more about offering a different perspective. None of the characters are simple, all of them have a different side to them.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
May 14 2012 20:24 GMT
#9763
On May 15 2012 05:15 sung_moon wrote:
Are the writers trying to get viewers to feel sorry for Cersie or something? Her scene with Sansa and Tyrion feel like they are trying to have us feel sorry for her regrets and current situation (specifically where she went wrong with Joff) . But then just last episode she was threatening Tyrion after Mycella was leaving King's Landing, and a few episode before she seemed amused when discussing how Sansa's brother would die.

I dunno, just seemed wierd how they tried to work that out.

Overall great episode. I love the conflicting interactions between Arya/Tywin, Jon/Ygritte, Cat/Jaime. Actor playign Jaime is amazing, and the actress as Ygritte is special too lol. Dany's scene overall this entire season to me has been boring, but I expected that until she gets out of Quarth/ dragon's have matured. And I thought this seasons 10 episodes, yet the preview for episode 8 says otherwise


I think they're just trying to make Cersei's character a little more dynamic. She's not just an evil woman, she's an evil woman because that's what she thinks is best for her son. I don't think she said she had regrets, just misgivings. She'd do it all again.

Or perhaps she is just an evil woman, but she uses her son to justify her behavior to others. When she was talking to Sansa, I definitely got the feeling that she was trying to convince herself of what she was saying as much as she was trying to convince Sansa.
Big water
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 14 2012 20:26 GMT
#9764
On May 15 2012 05:15 sung_moon wrote:
Are the writers trying to get viewers to feel sorry for Cersie or something? Her scene with Sansa and Tyrion feel like they are trying to have us feel sorry for her regrets and current situation (specifically where she went wrong with Joff) . But then just last episode she was threatening Tyrion after Mycella was leaving King's Landing, and a few episode before she seemed amused when discussing how Sansa's brother would die.

I dunno, just seemed wierd how they tried to work that out.

Overall great episode. I love the conflicting interactions between Arya/Tywin, Jon/Ygritte, Cat/Jaime. Actor playign Jaime is amazing, and the actress as Ygritte is special too lol. Dany's scene overall this entire season to me has been boring, but I expected that until she gets out of Quarth/ dragon's have matured. And I thought this seasons 10 episodes, yet the preview for episode 8 says otherwise


idk. It felt off but I did not think they're trying to alter her from the viewers point of view.
Rather felt like her trying to be manipulative because that's what I thought about her earlier a lot in season 1 and in season 2 so far.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
zerglingrodeo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States910 Posts
May 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#9765
On May 15 2012 04:58 Arkless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 04:57 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:51 Arkless wrote:
♥still a little hard


She's not that hot, there's about 10 women in this show hotter than her.

Maybe....but none as skanky♥♥♥♥
You know nothing orchidthief

It is said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A man knows.


She is not SKANKY. She is just FORWARD. Which is awesome.

Ygritte may be too hot, but I am not really complaining.
"This is how philosophers should salute one another: 'Take your time!'' - Wittgenstein
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 14 2012 20:28 GMT
#9766


so fucking scary
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
May 14 2012 20:34 GMT
#9767
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-14 20:47:06
May 14 2012 20:45 GMT
#9768
On May 15 2012 04:20 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 03:08 fifasnipe2224 wrote:
On May 15 2012 03:02 crms wrote:
I think it's pretty obvious that Theon killed orphans, if they were really the stark boys he wouldn't have burned them. He would have let the townspeople see their lords in all their glory.

But what does he gain by pretending to have killed them? Now he needs to act as if the job was done and stop looking for them. Does not seem like a smart move to me..... unless I am missing something.


He gains:

- Respect from his men (the ones who actually think it was them)
- Fear/obedience from the people of Winterfell
- The people of Winterfell now know his threats are real and that they can't escape
- Once his family arrives, he will gain some respect from them for killing two Stark boys
- He can pretend like he didn't get bested by a boy, a crippled boy, a giant fool and a wildling woman

Also Jaime is psychotic, I don't know why so many people like him. He's pretty much just a smarter version of Joffery, who pretends to be good.


And he doesn't enjoy torturing people for lulz either. He seems like he simply doesn't give a fuck about anyone else. He really only cares about himself and how he's going to get wherever he wants to go. I can't put my finger on why, but I think he's an awesome character.

edit: I mean Jamie btw. I also like Theon, if only because he's a pretty complex character, torn between trying not to be completely evil, and gaining respect from his crew.
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
May 14 2012 21:13 GMT
#9769
On May 15 2012 04:58 Arkless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 04:57 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:51 Arkless wrote:
♥still a little hard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkyy57iMaB0


She's not that hot, there's about 10 women in this show hotter than her.

Maybe....but none as skanky♥♥♥♥
You know nothing orchidthief

It is said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A man knows.


It is known.
On a more serious note : Robb said to that Volantis girl that they were going to surrender, who is surrendering to whom?
Did I miss something?
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
May 14 2012 21:18 GMT
#9770
On May 15 2012 06:13 Girondelle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 04:58 Arkless wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:57 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:51 Arkless wrote:
♥still a little hard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkyy57iMaB0


She's not that hot, there's about 10 women in this show hotter than her.

Maybe....but none as skanky♥♥♥♥
You know nothing orchidthief

It is said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A man knows.


It is known.
On a more serious note : Robb said to that Volantis girl that they were going to surrender, who is surrendering to whom?
Did I miss something?


Who ever hold the Crag is surrendering to Robb. They don't talk a lot about the minor military stuff but basically Robb is pushing farther west in to Lannister territory.
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
May 14 2012 21:30 GMT
#9771
I feel like Joffrey is pretty much Jaime, with 100 less I.Q.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
May 14 2012 21:31 GMT
#9772
Great episode. One of the best so far.

Had a lot more of those moments with just two characters talking to each other I loved so much from the first season. Tywin and Arya, Tyrion and Cersei...Tyrions reaction to Cersei crying was just brilliant.

And that warlock, what a badass scene, frigging hell.

Also, pretty sure it wasnt Bran and Rikkon at the end, but still pretty ruthless from Theon.
Girondelle
Profile Joined December 2010
France969 Posts
May 14 2012 21:32 GMT
#9773
On May 15 2012 06:18 scudst0rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2012 06:13 Girondelle wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:58 Arkless wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:57 OrchidThief wrote:
On May 15 2012 04:51 Arkless wrote:
♥still a little hard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkyy57iMaB0


She's not that hot, there's about 10 women in this show hotter than her.

Maybe....but none as skanky♥♥♥♥
You know nothing orchidthief

It is said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. A man knows.


It is known.
On a more serious note : Robb said to that Volantis girl that they were going to surrender, who is surrendering to whom?
Did I miss something?


Who ever hold the Crag is surrendering to Robb. They don't talk a lot about the minor military stuff but basically Robb is pushing farther west in to Lannister territory.

Ok, thank you !
Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
May 14 2012 21:40 GMT
#9774
I just realised something, Daenerys must go. As long as she is alive, it will always give this "everything that happens in Westeros is meaningless"-kind of feel. If she were to go, the whole dragon plot will actually become interesting. Will the dragons roam freely without their mother? If not, who will control them? Yes, she must go. The other characters in Qarth would suddenly also become interesting.
Rhine
Profile Joined October 2011
187 Posts
May 15 2012 01:05 GMT
#9775
On May 15 2012 06:40 Appendix wrote:
I just realised something, Daenerys must go. As long as she is alive, it will always give this "everything that happens in Westeros is meaningless"-kind of feel. If she were to go, the whole dragon plot will actually become interesting. Will the dragons roam freely without their mother? If not, who will control them? Yes, she must go. The other characters in Qarth would suddenly also become interesting.


But without her, doesn't that plotline fall? Who else will be the focus characters? Jorah and XXD?
Rhine
Profile Joined October 2011
187 Posts
May 15 2012 01:14 GMT
#9776
On May 15 2012 05:28 dragonborn wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQx6vCwCJec

so fucking scary


I love the look of the Dothraki. Throughout that entire scene he's like "NOPENOPENOPE. WTF IS THIS?"
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
May 15 2012 01:31 GMT
#9777
On May 14 2012 19:09 MrMercuG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2012 19:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
what was the "betrayal" that was mentioned to jorah? have i missed something?


+ Show Spoiler +
He betrayed his father, the commander of the night's watch.


More likely refers to how Jorah was reporting on Dany for the Spider
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
SovietHammer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States166 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-16 06:53:24
May 15 2012 02:12 GMT
#9778
On May 15 2012 04:51 Arkless wrote:
♥still a little hard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkyy57iMaB0


+ Show Spoiler [minor, implied spoilers - please beware] +


Need...next... episode. Those eyes mang...
gameguard
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Korea (South)2132 Posts
May 15 2012 02:20 GMT
#9779
why is that "you know nothing" line so orgasmic? Something from the books i guess lol. Cus it totally just felt like any other line to me.
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
May 15 2012 02:28 GMT
#9780
On May 15 2012 06:31 Spitfire wrote:
Great episode. One of the best so far.

I didn't really care for it as much as any of the others this season. Very little happened until the end, like the council being killed and jon getting surrounded.

Arya-Tywin scene wasn't as good as either of the previous Arya-Tywin scenes to me, particularly (but not only) because it loses appeal the more it occurs.
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
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