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On June 20 2011 17:37 Kittyness wrote: That Ending was so awesome.
Ending on Episode 9 would have probably held people over till next season better but shit doesn't get much more awesome then that.
I expect it does, I mean its only the first season, if Dragonball Z told us anything, by the end of the 7th season it will be over 9000 times more awesome.
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Okay, so if niteblaze is right, Dany will be fucking Robb eventually. I'm really curiuos to see how this pans out now, LOL.
Also... okay, if the dragons were feeding from her then... well, that's just fucking weird. Uncomfortably weird.
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when Arya passes the 3 caged men, is the cloacked one Jaquen, or do they already have the actor for his role?
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Wow amazing first season of a show. Cannot decide whether i should wait and watch it all and be patient. Or go out and read all the books and spoil a epic show but not have another 6 years to wait.
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With the author's glacial pace and 2 more books to write, you're going to have another 6 years to wait either way.
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On June 20 2011 17:15 Crazyeyes wrote: Dany's ritual was weird as hell, though. Yes, burning the witch made sense. And burning Drogo made sense, too. And I guess putting the eggs in there made sense, since theyre dragon eggs and its fire and shit. But why the FUCK did she go in? Does that make sense at all? How does she know she's supposed to do that, assuming she's supposed to? It was not a ritual, she was trying to kill herself because she lost everything and everyone. Eggs and everything was there because that was all she cared about. She had all she cared about there in the flames (and she cared about the witch dying by flames).
It was just shown badly and confuses people about if she knew what she was doing or not.
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I loved the way the dragons turned out, I was so worried for a while. The whole episode felt a bit crammed, so many things being resolved/set into motion but it was fantastic. Loved the scenes on the wall.
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On June 20 2011 18:55 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 17:15 Crazyeyes wrote: Dany's ritual was weird as hell, though. Yes, burning the witch made sense. And burning Drogo made sense, too. And I guess putting the eggs in there made sense, since theyre dragon eggs and its fire and shit. But why the FUCK did she go in? Does that make sense at all? How does she know she's supposed to do that, assuming she's supposed to? It was not a ritual, she was trying to kill herself because she lost everything and everyone. Eggs and everything was there because that was all she cared about. She had all she cared about there in the flames (and she cared about the witch dying by flames). It was just shown badly and confuses people if she knew what she was doing or not.
I don't think it's that. She already knew that she was invulnerable to fire. Remember the scene where she picked up the searing eggs from that pot of fire?
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On June 20 2011 18:59 heishe wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 18:55 -Archangel- wrote:On June 20 2011 17:15 Crazyeyes wrote: Dany's ritual was weird as hell, though. Yes, burning the witch made sense. And burning Drogo made sense, too. And I guess putting the eggs in there made sense, since theyre dragon eggs and its fire and shit. But why the FUCK did she go in? Does that make sense at all? How does she know she's supposed to do that, assuming she's supposed to? It was not a ritual, she was trying to kill herself because she lost everything and everyone. Eggs and everything was there because that was all she cared about. She had all she cared about there in the flames (and she cared about the witch dying by flames). It was just shown badly and confuses people if she knew what she was doing or not. I don't think it's that. She already knew that she was invulnerable to fire. Remember the scene where she picked up the searing eggs from that pot of fire?
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real descendent of the dragons yo.
I CANT FUCKIN WAIT FOR SEASON2!! lol im waiting for the 2nd book to arrive at my bookstore as well ;D:D:D:D:D:D
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Yeah, I dont htink it was that at all. She seemed very confident that she wasn't going to die. She totally looked like she knew exactly what she was doing.
As for the witch lady... I dont think there was any magic at all. She's just a pissed off old lady getting revenge. I think that she caused Drogo to get infected in the first place. The blood magic was all horseshit, an excuse to kill a horse. She got lucky when Dany went into labour, so she killed the baby too.
I mean, she seems almost justified. She was raped many times and that baby was destined to cause so much war and death... but from Dany's view, the bitch took everything. :x
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On June 20 2011 18:55 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 17:15 Crazyeyes wrote: Dany's ritual was weird as hell, though. Yes, burning the witch made sense. And burning Drogo made sense, too. And I guess putting the eggs in there made sense, since theyre dragon eggs and its fire and shit. But why the FUCK did she go in? Does that make sense at all? How does she know she's supposed to do that, assuming she's supposed to? It was not a ritual, she was trying to kill herself because she lost everything and everyone. Eggs and everything was there because that was all she cared about. She had all she cared about there in the flames (and she cared about the witch dying by flames). It was just shown badly and confuses people about if she knew what she was doing or not.
I doubt it. If she had gone in to kill herself, why would she give the speech telling her "khalasar" to stay?
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On June 20 2011 17:43 niteblaze wrote: SC2 Perspective:
Raynor = Rob Stark Mengsk = Joffrey Kerrigan = Dany Toss = Night's Watch???? (need alternative)
Toss = Children of the forest .
Zerg = white walkers
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On June 20 2011 19:03 Crazyeyes wrote: As for the witch lady... I dont think there was any magic at all. She's just a pissed off old lady getting revenge. I think that she caused Drogo to get infected in the first place. The blood magic was all horseshit, an excuse to kill a horse. She got lucky when Dany went into labour, so she killed the baby too.
I mean, she seems almost justified. She was raped many times and that baby was destined to cause so much war and death... but from Dany's view, the bitch took everything. :x
If that was the case, then how did she heal Drogo's wound. His mind was gone but his body was healthy.
There had to be magic involved or how else would those dragon eggs finally hatch? Dany took the lesson from the witch and used it to bring them alive. "only death can pay for life". The witches life paid for the dragons.
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Wow....
That has got to be the best season finale I've ever seen. The last few episodes were pretty meh but god damn this one was amazing.
Dany knew she the dragons were going to hatch and she knew she wasn't going to die it's just that she didn't try to explain her plan because she knew they'd call her a crazy bitch so she just decided to roll with it and pwn everybody the next day.
Oh the one thing I didn't like was the small part with Jamie Lannister and Katelyn. It didn't live up to the epic confrontation that I assume might probably maybe happen if it were ever to take place in some small dungeon in the near future in an unknown castle?
It seemed like they just threw that scene in there to give Jamie some more screen time and a big reassurance to viewers that "Hurr durr Jamie is a prisoner" but it didn't do the man justice!
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I was actually pretty disappointed with the final scene. The pyre scene was amazing and the build-up was fantastic... then they just cut to the morning when apparently, people had just woken up from a sleep during which their khaleesi was on fire.
The book did that scene better IMO
That said, Alan Taylor seems to be a fantastic director and did the last two episodes justice, on the whole.
I don't care that I have to wait a year for ACoK to be on TV because there's less than a month until ADwD is out! :D
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On June 20 2011 19:04 snotboogie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 18:55 -Archangel- wrote:On June 20 2011 17:15 Crazyeyes wrote: Dany's ritual was weird as hell, though. Yes, burning the witch made sense. And burning Drogo made sense, too. And I guess putting the eggs in there made sense, since theyre dragon eggs and its fire and shit. But why the FUCK did she go in? Does that make sense at all? How does she know she's supposed to do that, assuming she's supposed to? It was not a ritual, she was trying to kill herself because she lost everything and everyone. Eggs and everything was there because that was all she cared about. She had all she cared about there in the flames (and she cared about the witch dying by flames). It was just shown badly and confuses people about if she knew what she was doing or not. I doubt it. If she had gone in to kill herself, why would she give the speech telling her "khalasar" to stay? Because the script writers are retards that do not understand the material there were converting to a TV series. They mixed everything up and made it confusing. They change some stuff but keep others intact. You cannot do things like this. If you change something you need to adapt other parts as well.
That speech was supposed to come afterwards, not before the fire part.
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Yes she totaly knew what she was doing.. because she made a speech before hand obviously encouraging the people with greatness in the future...
I haven't read the 2nd book but how strong are dragons? Can 1 wipe out an army? How did the humans kill of the dragons before? Are dragons and whitewalkers enemies?
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On June 20 2011 19:13 Strut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 19:03 Crazyeyes wrote: As for the witch lady... I dont think there was any magic at all. She's just a pissed off old lady getting revenge. I think that she caused Drogo to get infected in the first place. The blood magic was all horseshit, an excuse to kill a horse. She got lucky when Dany went into labour, so she killed the baby too.
I mean, she seems almost justified. She was raped many times and that baby was destined to cause so much war and death... but from Dany's view, the bitch took everything. :x If that was the case, then how did she heal Drogo's wound. His mind was gone but his body was healthy. There had to be magic involved or how else would those dragon eggs finally hatch? Dany took the lesson from the witch and used it to bring them alive. "only death can pay for life". The witches life paid for the dragons. Hmm, maybe. You can argue that the eggs simply needed fire to be hatched. I dont think its that farfetched to think that noone actually tried.
Or it was magic. I dindt say there was no magic there. I was saying that all the other shit the bitch (witch, whatever) did wasn't magic. I mean I guess at this point its speculating but you could argue that he wasnt going to die anyways, he just got paralyzed...
Yeah so I dont like that theory anymore. I still think that if she didnt touch Drogo in the first place he'd be fine. And I dont believe that when the baby was born, it had wings, leathery skin, and was filled with worms, lol.
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On June 20 2011 19:13 Strut wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 19:03 Crazyeyes wrote: As for the witch lady... I dont think there was any magic at all. She's just a pissed off old lady getting revenge. I think that she caused Drogo to get infected in the first place. The blood magic was all horseshit, an excuse to kill a horse. She got lucky when Dany went into labour, so she killed the baby too.
I mean, she seems almost justified. She was raped many times and that baby was destined to cause so much war and death... but from Dany's view, the bitch took everything. :x If that was the case, then how did she heal Drogo's wound. His mind was gone but his body was healthy. There had to be magic involved or how else would those dragon eggs finally hatch? Dany took the lesson from the witch and used it to bring them alive. "only death can pay for life". The witches life paid for the dragons.
I dont think it works in that sense that "well a life for a life, can just kill stuff and my stuff will get done" it was more about how she had this connection to the dragons itself.
I have read the first book, and they make it sound like whenever she was close to the eggs they gave her strenght and that fire resistance, but only to her, maybe because she is Targaryan and has dragon blood idk ? started reading the second book and its very good, yall should try.
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she said "but its not your screams i want, only your life."
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