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On May 07 2017 18:33 opisska wrote:I quite enjoy how the books are no longer really ahead, so that all the fun of speculation is now available also to us who only watched the series. Before it was all like "in the books, it's like that", but now nobody knows. Moreover, learning about the book differences is no longer much of a spoiler, so one can read things pretty much freely. What a great time, I almost wish they dragged it out longer 
The show is now ahead on almost all story lines. I would say all story lines, but I could be forgetting something. The show, however, leaves out some of the little details that fuel speculation.
The book differences mostly highlight the plot points that don't matter much in the grand scheme of things. The differences in season 6 feel like a way for the show to get to where the books are headed in a faster, more condensed manner. There is still the possibility that GRRM trolls everybody by having the show and the book have major differences in their respective endings. Some differences are to be expected at this point.
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On May 09 2017 04:25 aseq wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2017 18:33 opisska wrote:I quite enjoy how the books are no longer really ahead, so that all the fun of speculation is now available also to us who only watched the series. Before it was all like "in the books, it's like that", but now nobody knows. Moreover, learning about the book differences is no longer much of a spoiler, so one can read things pretty much freely. What a great time, I almost wish they dragged it out longer True, only it's too bad they didn't manage to make the series just a subset of the story in the books. I know you have to leave out some stuff, but I don't like it when they change the story completely. Already, there are big differences, which makes everything a mess, especially considering spinoffs that are coming out later. If you have to ask the question 'is this canon?' the writers/directors have failed, imo. But why does this happen across all of these kind of universes (xmen, lotr, warcraft, etc).
Just view them as different canons. Expecting the show to follow the books that aren't even complete AND do so in just seven seasons is... well fairly unreasonable.
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Different media fit better with certain stories I guess. X-Men wouldn't be as strong in a book and ASoIaF would probably be too complex for a movie..
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It'll be a Jersey Shore knock off. Dorne shore. Mrs. Bad Pussy will be the star of the show.
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France7248 Posts
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So no Dunk and Egg and no Roberts rebellion, interesting.
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Dunk and Egg could be promising 
Meanwhile two months left till s7 and it's time to start refresh some memories
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I feel they will either do something about past Targaryens or a story on essos which would basically completely their own (more or less)
I would enjoy both if done well 
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On May 09 2017 05:54 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2017 18:33 opisska wrote:I quite enjoy how the books are no longer really ahead, so that all the fun of speculation is now available also to us who only watched the series. Before it was all like "in the books, it's like that", but now nobody knows. Moreover, learning about the book differences is no longer much of a spoiler, so one can read things pretty much freely. What a great time, I almost wish they dragged it out longer The show is now ahead on almost all story lines. I would say all story lines, but I could be forgetting something. The show, however, leaves out some of the little details that fuel speculation. The book differences mostly highlight the plot points that don't matter much in the grand scheme of things. The differences in season 6 feel like a way for the show to get to where the books are headed in a faster, more condensed manner. There is still the possibility that GRRM trolls everybody by having the show and the book have major differences in their respective endings. Some differences are to be expected at this point.
I'm expecting that, to be honest, but I can also see it happenning in a telltale game style that despite diverging subplots, everything still converges on the same ending (by strategically killing off some characters in the tv series).
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Zurich15366 Posts
I don't mind at all to have a show on new original content instead of shooting Dunk and Egg.
Seeing how the GoT changes went in the later seasons I'd rather have them come up with new stories than them taking artistic liberties on Dunk and Egg.
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On May 15 2017 23:23 zatic wrote:
I don't mind at all to have a show on new original content instead of shooting Dunk and Egg.
Seeing how the GoT changes went in the later seasons I'd rather have them come up with new stories than them taking artistic liberties on Dunk and Egg.
Well you could argue that the later seasons of GoT prove that the quality of earlier seasons was due to the source material being there and GRRM being a fantastic writer.
A completely new story might therefore be not as good. Though i am not sure about the writers who work on these prequels. And tbh, we don't necessarily need such a large cast and so many different storylines to have a good show.
I am fairly optimistic, though i really hope we only get one show. They are working on 5 scripts, but more than 1 or two would be overkill for sure. (and yes i know that workign on 5 doesn't mean 5 tv series will actually be created in the end )
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I'd wager to say Dance of Dragons would be the best choice but it would absolutely murder their CGI budget.
Still want to see Dorne Shore.
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Dance of Dragons, Aegon's Conquest, Valyria vs Ghis, Blackfyre Rebellions, the settling of Westeros and the wars vs the children. There are lots of things they can do that have been alluded to in the current story.
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Yeah stories with lots of dragons might be costly though, i can see that.
At the same time if you don't have to pay a huge cast more and more money maybe HBO would be able to stem it. Who knows
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They should do a spinoff on the doom of Valyria. The could focus it on one of the landowning houses - the Targaryens or another. The Valyrians were pretty messed up, taking slaves and riding dragons and probably incest. Great stuff for TV.
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On May 16 2017 02:09 andrewlt wrote:
Dance of Dragons, Aegon's Conquest, Valyria vs Ghis, Blackfyre Rebellions, the settling of Westeros and the wars vs the children. There are lots of things they can do that have been alluded to in the current story.
If you read what GRRM said it will just be set in the asoiaf universe but might be unrelated to the story we know. Basically taking advantage of the brand. Also we know the outcome of stuff like Blackfyre rebellions so this is unlikely to be shown. So do not expect something that is part of the already known canon.
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Bran the Builder. Please. Make it happen.
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I'm worried that they'll somehow ruin the franchise with those spinoff ideas. Writers, please be careful.
And yes, before someone asks, I AM STILL WORKING ON WINDS OF WINTER and will continue working on it until it's done.
I DONT BELIEVE YOU
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On May 15 2017 23:28 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2017 23:23 zatic wrote:
I don't mind at all to have a show on new original content instead of shooting Dunk and Egg.
Seeing how the GoT changes went in the later seasons I'd rather have them come up with new stories than them taking artistic liberties on Dunk and Egg. Well you could argue that the later seasons of GoT prove that the quality of earlier seasons was due to the source material being there and GRRM being a fantastic writer. A completely new story might therefore be not as good. Though i am not sure about the writers who work on these prequels. And tbh, we don't necessarily need such a large cast and so many different storylines to have a good show. I am fairly optimistic, though i really hope we only get one show. They are working on 5 scripts, but more than 1 or two would be overkill for sure. (and yes i know that workign on 5 doesn't mean 5 tv series will actually be created in the end )
Yea I'm kinda on the same boat. I honestly do not expect anything good from these spinoffs as the later seasons of GoT have been sufferable with few superb episodes.
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A spinoff you say?
Gendry, you're finally getting off that boat!
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