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On April 30 2014 20:21 urboss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 20:05 brian wrote:On April 30 2014 18:44 kamicom wrote:
Why the fuck didn't the old lady just keep the poison on her. How unnecessarily convoluted was that weak ass assassination plot... that really pisses me off when i see shit writing like that. They better explain that shit. Especially after that complete plot hole with the white walkers not killing Sam and how Sam got past them to SOMEHOW make it back to the wall...
I mean it was pretty clearly to set up a scape goat If that was true, why would Littlefinger have her given the necklace in the first place? Remember, Littlefinger is only in it for Sansa. If Sansa gets blamed, he won't get her. Just in general hiding the poison in Sansa's necklace goes against Littlefinger's motives.
Why would he wanna do that?
I think this is a big fuck up in the plot!
I would think it's because Sansa can never run away from Littlefinger now; since, she was part of the murder, an obvious part due to her running away. He's the only one protecting her, so she's stuck by his side. And Littlefinger has been a creeper for her since the start of the show... so he wants Sansa near him.
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Littlefinger had no way of knowing that Tyrion would be blamed immediately.
Sansa was one of the main suspects, since she had actual motives for killing Joffrey.
The risk of her being retained and questioned was quite high.
And putting the necklace with poison on her didn't make things better.
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On April 30 2014 02:17 psychopat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 11:54 Keniji wrote:
Way to have the last word. If you really wanted the argument to stop, maybe you shouldn't have made another point.
Best scene was Bron slapping Jamie with his own hand. Hands down. I have to hand it to you... you win.
On April 30 2014 02:24 c0ldfusion wrote:
I'm cringing so hard right now.
Get a grip man...
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On April 30 2014 21:07 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 20:21 urboss wrote:On April 30 2014 20:05 brian wrote:On April 30 2014 18:44 kamicom wrote:
Why the fuck didn't the old lady just keep the poison on her. How unnecessarily convoluted was that weak ass assassination plot... that really pisses me off when i see shit writing like that. They better explain that shit. Especially after that complete plot hole with the white walkers not killing Sam and how Sam got past them to SOMEHOW make it back to the wall...
I mean it was pretty clearly to set up a scape goat If that was true, why would Littlefinger have her given the necklace in the first place? Remember, Littlefinger is only in it for Sansa. If Sansa gets blamed, he won't get her. Just in general hiding the poison in Sansa's necklace goes against Littlefinger's motives.
Why would he wanna do that?
I think this is a big fuck up in the plot! I would think it's because Sansa can never run away from Littlefinger now; since, she was part of the murder, an obvious part due to her running away. He's the only one protecting her, so she's stuck by his side. And Littlefinger has been a creeper for her since the start of the show... so he wants Sansa near him.
Yea he spells this out pretty plainly in that scene under deck, how are people missing this =P.
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sansa is bound to him for now, maybe people even find the smashed neclace Littlefinger left behind and then they will REALLY hunt her down.
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On April 30 2014 23:39 LaNague wrote:
sansa is bound to him for now, maybe people even find the smashed neclace Littlefinger left behind and then they will REALLY hunt her down.
That one was on the boat with dead Fool or maybe somewhere in the water. Small chance someone really finds it or connects it with Sansa.
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On April 30 2014 21:18 urboss wrote:
Littlefinger had no way of knowing that Tyrion would be blamed immediately.
Sansa was one of the main suspects, since she had actual motives for killing Joffrey.
The risk of her being retained and questioned was quite high.
And putting the necklace with poison on her didn't make things better.
but that's not a risk for him. so he loses Sansa. nbd. not his ideal but she's not his end game. the cost benefit of the play he made is so extremely high towards benefit.
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On April 30 2014 21:07 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2014 20:21 urboss wrote:On April 30 2014 20:05 brian wrote:On April 30 2014 18:44 kamicom wrote:
Why the fuck didn't the old lady just keep the poison on her. How unnecessarily convoluted was that weak ass assassination plot... that really pisses me off when i see shit writing like that. They better explain that shit. Especially after that complete plot hole with the white walkers not killing Sam and how Sam got past them to SOMEHOW make it back to the wall...
I mean it was pretty clearly to set up a scape goat If that was true, why would Littlefinger have her given the necklace in the first place? Remember, Littlefinger is only in it for Sansa. If Sansa gets blamed, he won't get her. Just in general hiding the poison in Sansa's necklace goes against Littlefinger's motives.
Why would he wanna do that?
I think this is a big fuck up in the plot! I would think it's because Sansa can never run away from Littlefinger now; since, she was part of the murder, an obvious part due to her running away. He's the only one protecting her, so she's stuck by his side. And Littlefinger has been a creeper for her since the start of the show... so he wants Sansa near him.
Yes, but the point is that the necklace has nothing to do with that.
She believes that she is thought to be part of the murder because she ran away,
not because she was wearing the necklace.
It was completely superfluous to attach the necklace to Sansa in the first place.
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again, the scape goat should they be caught. it has to get to the wedding somehow.
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how did the guy who chopped Jaime's hand off end up with the Nights Watch?
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On April 30 2014 23:58 brian wrote:
again, the scape goat should they be caught. it has to get to the wedding somehow.
It was not in Littlefinger's interest to make Sansa a scape goat because he never would have been caught anyway.
If at all, the necklace thing would have been initiated by Olenna, to have protection, without letting Littlefinger know.
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On May 01 2014 00:06 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
how did the guy who chopped Jaime's hand off end up with the Nights Watch?
was told by Roose Bolton to go up North and find Bran and the other brother due to information from Reek
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At Craster's Keep... the mutineers.. just why did they decide to keep Ghost alive in the cage? Food once the hogs ran out?
And why would they build a trap right next to Ghost's cage (that caught Summer)?
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On May 01 2014 00:59 RCMDVA wrote:
At Craster's Keep... the mutineers.. just why did they decide to keep Ghost alive in the cage? Food once the hogs ran out?
And why would they build a trap right next to Ghost's cage (that caught Summer)?
In this world who wouldn't fortify their position? Whatever the possible threats may be, I'd try to put up some traps myself to get a slightly safe feeling.
I think they would keep the wolf alive to repel possible visitors or function as an alarm perhaps.. or food!
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On May 01 2014 01:15 fartosis77 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2014 00:59 RCMDVA wrote:
At Craster's Keep... the mutineers.. just why did they decide to keep Ghost alive in the cage? Food once the hogs ran out?
And why would they build a trap right next to Ghost's cage (that caught Summer)? In this world who wouldn't fortify their position, whatever the possible threats may be, I'd try to put up some traps myself to get a slightly safe feeling. I think they would keep the wolf alive to repel possible visitors or function as an alarm perhaps.. or food!
I can kind of theorize that the trap had been there for a while (let's say Craster built it to protect his hogs from Dire wolves & bears... ect). Only women folk around nobody really to defend the livestock. So the farm needs traps.
The only thing I can come up with.. once they caught Ghost in the trap was that they needed to save him for food later.
And then by sheer luck the same trap caught Summer.
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You wouldn't save him for food though, you'd cook him and eat him on the spot because he consumes the same food as you and a damn sight more then the hogs in the first place. Its bad logic to consider saving him for food when the hogs can be saved with less effort and less food-source.
But yay, ghost is alive! I love them wolves 
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On April 30 2014 14:34 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 19:03 CAPSLOCKED wrote:On April 29 2014 17:45 Jandos wrote:On April 29 2014 17:41 urboss wrote:
I haven't seen The Mountain for a while.
I hope things are going well for him! Well he has a new actor again ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3J1wyWQ.jpg) Maaaan, AGAIN? The guy who played him in the first season was such a beast. This guy is much more of a beast. The first two "Mountains" were both over 7foot tall, but rather lean (the 2nd one more so than the first) - I think both played Basketball at one stage This Mountain, whilst only 6 feet 8.5 inches - he weighs... 180kgs (or 396lbs) That is the absolute perfect definition of "The Mountain" IMO. He is Icelands strongest man, and placed 2nd overall in the worlds strongest man tournaments most recent competition... yep... someone in the world is stronger than him...! I cant wait to see how they show his size/strength in the season.
![[image loading]](http://asset-3.soup.io/asset/7133/3370_339d.jpeg)
You call this guy the mountain? More like the munchkin.
But joking aside, this current guy also played basketball, if you google Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson you can find his basketball photos from only 2-3 years ago, and he's missing about 200lbs. He didn't become the monster that he is until he started consuming lots of gummiberry juice.
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In any case, where's the mountain at the moment? We haven't seen this actor yet and by the looks of that two handed sword a few pages back he must look f-in fearful in armor, yet he has been hiding for the past 4 epis! WHERE!?
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On May 01 2014 03:05 fartosis77 wrote:
In any case, where's the mountain at the moment? We haven't seen this actor yet and by the looks of that two handed sword a few pages back he must look f-in fearful in armor, yet he has been hiding for the past 4 epis! WHERE!?
Arya and the hound met some of the mountains men at the end of episode one. Those men were heading towards Kings Landing, and presumably the mountain was in whatever place they came from.
Arya was heading from the Twins (south side) to the Vale. Looking at a map, that should put the Mountain somewhere north of the red fork (of the river Trident). He cannot be as far north as Moat Cailin, since the iron islanders are there. Basically, he must be somewhere in the north part of the Riverlands, or in the Neck.
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I felt, in general, The Mountain's character had such insignificant screen time the past 4 seasons. Sure we all hear how hes the most gruesome fighter. All I remember was him cutting a head's horse off after losing a joust to Ser Loras. Other than that, hes pretty much been offscreen the entire time. If people hadnt told me that they changed The Mountain's actor multiple times then I wouldnt have noticed.
Edit: I just feel this is disappointing since he seems to be a really important "bad guy" that seems to revolve around everyone elses story line.
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