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On October 29 2012 14:15 saladToss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 13:55 GhostLink wrote:On October 29 2012 13:18 ShangMing wrote: I like how Isaac was like "spatter (not splatter)" last episode, and this episode he says his great uncle was "hung" (as opposed to the grammatically correct "hanged"). I think that was grammatically correct. They hanged him. He was hung. (Not "he was hanged") hanged is correct Cool episode. I wonder what Batista's gonna do - he's always seemed like he feels he's got nothing to lose and go a bit vigilante
http://grammar.about.com/od/alightersideofwriting/a/hangedgloss.htm
Also, Hannah is super, super hot and Isaak in the flashback bar scene was so incredibly boss.
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On October 27 2012 10:31 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2012 08:45 Redox wrote:On October 23 2012 21:38 SoulReaver306 wrote: It's actually all the female characters on shows like this. Margaret from Boardwalk empire, Deb/Rita from Dexter, Skylar from Breaking Bad, the wife from the Sopranos.
It's because all the main characters in these shows are involved in criminal enterprises and their female counterparts serve as an impediment to their routine. So the main reason that these female characters are disliked is because the stop the main characters from doing what they do best, which irritates the viewers. I must be different, I mostly like the females (not Margaret though). But how can one dislike Skylar? She is the most sane person in all of Breaking Bad. While the main character (Walter) is an insane asshole. I always want him to fail / be put in jail. Same with Dexter actually. I would like him to be stopped as he is a danger for everyone around him including his son. He already got his wife, a fellow police officer and a few other innocent people killed. He isn't truly responsible for Doake's death. Doakes made the mistake of getting too close and not leaving him alone. Rita I give you, though he had it planned out in the end. He didn't account for errors in his master plan though. Dexter's time is coming to an end I'm sure. They ran the course of how some people have to deal with their demons, and whether or not you can save/stop/reconcile yourself. Dexter still isn't a bad guy and wouldn't intentionally hurt/kill anyone, but what he does does not cast a good shadow on him. eh... Doakes was doing his job as a cop. Hard to say it was actually his fault. Dam I miss him though.
'Surprise MOthafuka!!'
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On October 23 2012 07:43 Bleak wrote: "How do you feel?" -"...Glad...What does that make me?" "..Human."
Fucking amazing scene. meh.. Was way too cliche. I was thinking 'human' like right before dex said it..
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On October 29 2012 14:29 Kal_rA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 10:31 Cloud9157 wrote:On October 26 2012 08:45 Redox wrote:On October 23 2012 21:38 SoulReaver306 wrote: It's actually all the female characters on shows like this. Margaret from Boardwalk empire, Deb/Rita from Dexter, Skylar from Breaking Bad, the wife from the Sopranos.
It's because all the main characters in these shows are involved in criminal enterprises and their female counterparts serve as an impediment to their routine. So the main reason that these female characters are disliked is because the stop the main characters from doing what they do best, which irritates the viewers. I must be different, I mostly like the females (not Margaret though). But how can one dislike Skylar? She is the most sane person in all of Breaking Bad. While the main character (Walter) is an insane asshole. I always want him to fail / be put in jail. Same with Dexter actually. I would like him to be stopped as he is a danger for everyone around him including his son. He already got his wife, a fellow police officer and a few other innocent people killed. He isn't truly responsible for Doake's death. Doakes made the mistake of getting too close and not leaving him alone. Rita I give you, though he had it planned out in the end. He didn't account for errors in his master plan though. Dexter's time is coming to an end I'm sure. They ran the course of how some people have to deal with their demons, and whether or not you can save/stop/reconcile yourself. Dexter still isn't a bad guy and wouldn't intentionally hurt/kill anyone, but what he does does not cast a good shadow on him. eh... Doakes was doing his job as a cop. Hard to say it was actually his fault. Dam I miss him though. 'Surprise MOthafuka!!'
Yeah lol, I don't think it was Doake's fault at all. That's like saying it's my fault for when walking down the street and someone slitting my throat.
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Those "jail conversation" scenes are common in movies and tv shows. The reality is probably much like you're assuming, but I think it's established as a reasonable scene in terms of suspending disbelief.
I'm not sure I understand why everyone wants Deb to die. Dexter without Deb seems like it would be ridiculously one-dimensional. As an impetus to the end of the series maybe, but not just to let Dexter go on a rampage.
Edit: Also if Dexter ends up biting the bullet / going to jail Deb might be the only one left to take care of Harrison. Assuming she isn't implicated.
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On October 23 2012 01:09 Kazeyonoma wrote: viktor might've been illegitimate son, hence why his love for him, but the other members of the brotherhood didn't know to treat viktor with special treatment. God I hope this is true. Just hope hes not a gay lover... That would just be bad tv. (no offense to the gay community ofc..)
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On October 29 2012 14:29 Kal_rA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2012 10:31 Cloud9157 wrote:On October 26 2012 08:45 Redox wrote:On October 23 2012 21:38 SoulReaver306 wrote: It's actually all the female characters on shows like this. Margaret from Boardwalk empire, Deb/Rita from Dexter, Skylar from Breaking Bad, the wife from the Sopranos.
It's because all the main characters in these shows are involved in criminal enterprises and their female counterparts serve as an impediment to their routine. So the main reason that these female characters are disliked is because the stop the main characters from doing what they do best, which irritates the viewers. I must be different, I mostly like the females (not Margaret though). But how can one dislike Skylar? She is the most sane person in all of Breaking Bad. While the main character (Walter) is an insane asshole. I always want him to fail / be put in jail. Same with Dexter actually. I would like him to be stopped as he is a danger for everyone around him including his son. He already got his wife, a fellow police officer and a few other innocent people killed. He isn't truly responsible for Doake's death. Doakes made the mistake of getting too close and not leaving him alone. Rita I give you, though he had it planned out in the end. He didn't account for errors in his master plan though. Dexter's time is coming to an end I'm sure. They ran the course of how some people have to deal with their demons, and whether or not you can save/stop/reconcile yourself. Dexter still isn't a bad guy and wouldn't intentionally hurt/kill anyone, but what he does does not cast a good shadow on him. eh... Doakes was doing his job as a cop. Hard to say it was actually his fault. Dam I miss him though. 'Surprise MOthafuka!!'
My post was more along the lines of Dexter's pov.
This episode... Kinda weak. They really wrote Isaak's character into a corner. For one of the few adversaries that has been able to keep up with Dexter, they really dealt with him poorly. Going to take a lot of effort to write him back in somehow imo.
A side note, the amount of adversaries Dexter had/has to deal with this season is awesome. Louis, Deb, Isaak, LaGuerta, Hannah, possibly even Quinn+Batista still hanging around as potential trouble. Hes going to be so overwhelmed at some point I bet.
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On October 29 2012 14:36 Kal_rA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 01:09 Kazeyonoma wrote: viktor might've been illegitimate son, hence why his love for him, but the other members of the brotherhood didn't know to treat viktor with special treatment. God I hope this is true. Just hope hes not a gay lover... That would just be bad tv. (no offense to the gay community ofc..)
Why would it be bad TV? I think it would be an interesting plot twist.
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On October 29 2012 15:15 blug wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:36 Kal_rA wrote:On October 23 2012 01:09 Kazeyonoma wrote: viktor might've been illegitimate son, hence why his love for him, but the other members of the brotherhood didn't know to treat viktor with special treatment. God I hope this is true. Just hope hes not a gay lover... That would just be bad tv. (no offense to the gay community ofc..) Why would it be bad TV? I think it would be an interesting plot twist. super homophobic russian gangsters having amorous relationship? that's just not realistic. Homosexuality is a big part of russian gang culture, but fags(boondock saint reference for clarity) are a big nono.
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On October 29 2012 14:59 Cloud9157 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:29 Kal_rA wrote:On October 27 2012 10:31 Cloud9157 wrote:On October 26 2012 08:45 Redox wrote:On October 23 2012 21:38 SoulReaver306 wrote: It's actually all the female characters on shows like this. Margaret from Boardwalk empire, Deb/Rita from Dexter, Skylar from Breaking Bad, the wife from the Sopranos.
It's because all the main characters in these shows are involved in criminal enterprises and their female counterparts serve as an impediment to their routine. So the main reason that these female characters are disliked is because the stop the main characters from doing what they do best, which irritates the viewers. I must be different, I mostly like the females (not Margaret though). But how can one dislike Skylar? She is the most sane person in all of Breaking Bad. While the main character (Walter) is an insane asshole. I always want him to fail / be put in jail. Same with Dexter actually. I would like him to be stopped as he is a danger for everyone around him including his son. He already got his wife, a fellow police officer and a few other innocent people killed. He isn't truly responsible for Doake's death. Doakes made the mistake of getting too close and not leaving him alone. Rita I give you, though he had it planned out in the end. He didn't account for errors in his master plan though. Dexter's time is coming to an end I'm sure. They ran the course of how some people have to deal with their demons, and whether or not you can save/stop/reconcile yourself. Dexter still isn't a bad guy and wouldn't intentionally hurt/kill anyone, but what he does does not cast a good shadow on him. eh... Doakes was doing his job as a cop. Hard to say it was actually his fault. Dam I miss him though. 'Surprise MOthafuka!!' My post was more along the lines of Dexter's pov. This episode... Kinda weak. They really wrote Isaak's character into a corner. For one of the few adversaries that has been able to keep up with Dexter, they really dealt with him poorly. Going to take a lot of effort to write him back in somehow imo. A side note, the amount of adversaries Dexter had/has to deal with this season is awesome. Louis, Deb, Isaak, LaGuerta, Hannah, possibly even Quinn+Batista still hanging around as potential trouble. Hes going to be so overwhelmed at some point I bet. why is he in jail? I get it if they woulda mentioned outstanding warrants, but considering theyve encountered him before at the bar with no consequences, it's a load of bull. The shooting was quiet obviously a case of self defense.
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On October 29 2012 14:31 Kal_rA wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2012 07:43 Bleak wrote: "How do you feel?" -"...Glad...What does that make me?" "..Human."
Fucking amazing scene. meh.. Was way too cliche. I was thinking 'human' like right before dex said it.. Simplicity is the root of all genius. They didnt try to outsmart themselves, they just said what you would say. They, in fact read your mind!
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On October 29 2012 16:28 1Dhalism wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2012 14:31 Kal_rA wrote:On October 23 2012 07:43 Bleak wrote: "How do you feel?" -"...Glad...What does that make me?" "..Human."
Fucking amazing scene. meh.. Was way too cliche. I was thinking 'human' like right before dex said it.. Simplicity is the root of all genius. They didnt try to outsmart themselves, they just said what you would say. They, in fact read your mind! The hardest part of writing is making the viewer feel "smart."
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+ Show Spoiler +On October 29 2012 14:29 Kal_rA wrote: eh... Doakes was doing his job as a cop. Hard to say it was actually his fault. Dam I miss him though.
'Surprise MOthafuka!!' (quoted another user's post in above spoiler, relates to below spoilers - technically all that is spoiled is the title of an episode, but still)
I was browsing through TV.com's episode list and noticed the season 7 finale for Dexter is entitled + Show Spoiler +
That raises some questions, imo.
+ Show Spoiler +Firstly, and most obviously, "is Doakes still alive?" I pray the answer to this is "no" because we saw his death in no uncertain terms and a reversal of that through some trickery and shenanigans is not welcome. If they do some stupid shit like this, I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one who was angry.
So, the only obvious alternative would be that it is a Doakes reference because somebody (or multiple people?) discover that Doakes is not the Bay Harbor Butcher. LaGuerta is the probable one to figure it out, but I actually hope the whole department figures it out. By then, we'll have had 7 more episodes with this new dynamic, and an 8th season with Dexter on the run may be interesting. Then again, I could live with a cliffhanger finale with LaGuerta figuring it out like Deb did in Season 7 with early Season 8 being focused around LaGuerta gathering evidence and late Season 8 being around the FBI and Miami Metro hunting Dexter.
Lots of interesting possibilities all from just two words.
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I really hope that the last season involves Dexter being on the run, hunted by those he used to work with. He's evolved as a character, and as much as he doesn't realise it he feels emotions and has a strong sense of morality which can be skewed under certain circumstances (see when his dark passenger was his brother). Dexter on the run, without a strong routine and job to guide him, as well as his secret being out, would finally show us just what kind of a person he really is. Is Dexter a killer who has been guided to kill only those in the code? Will he turn to other victims if he can't research, if he isn't sure? Just how far will his code go when he is no longer secret?
I feel that would have a lot of potential for stories, personally.
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I'm honestly not sure where they'll go with this season, but Isaac is one scary motherf**ker.
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On October 29 2012 20:45 InoyouS2 wrote: I'm honestly not sure where they'll go with this season, but Isaac is one scary motherf**ker.
lol, Dexter in prison next season maybe =P.
Or maybe dexter running away from the law but at the same time fufilling his urge to kill?
I think the second one sounds pretty cool, but I personally think that they are running out of fuel for the series. Hopefully they call it quits rather than dragging out the series.
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On October 29 2012 13:03 GhostLink wrote: Holy shit that prison scene, it was insane. I can't really think of a good reason for Isaak to be released from prison, there is hard evidence, unless of course it mysteriously disappears before the trial. With his already established persona as the Terminator, he needs to escape from jail. Now that would be something. The show better be more Isaak and less Hannah.
I bet they end up bribing Quinn into getting rid of the evidence or something.
I feel like Dexter's getting backed into a corner again, the same way he was back in the season doakes died (season 2? 3?) He's got laguerta closing in, the ukrainian mafia trying to kill him, and the next weeks preview hinted that hannah might still be killing and have him as his next target..
Maybe the last episode is named Suprise Motherfucker to allude to the fact this season might end the same way? Someone innocent finding out and dieing
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Pretty good episode. Sucks that Dexter and Hannah will try and kill each other now, can't they just get it on instead and live happily ever after? ^^
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hannah doesn't wanna kill dexter. That's just bullcrap in the preview
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