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On December 20 2011 01:43 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 00:41 abominare wrote:On December 19 2011 21:58 KwarK wrote:On December 19 2011 15:48 JJH777 wrote:On December 19 2011 15:11 KwarK wrote:
Dexter's revelation on the boat with wormwood was that sometimes things are just too big for him and he should call the police and get help. You'd think he'd have realised that one when he let Trinity kill a load of people including his wife but apparently not. And then he does the exact same shit again, ignoring the obvious phone call to Deb saying "send all police to the building, he has my son". Dexter repeatedly puts the people he professes to love in danger, he kills more people through inaction than any individual one of his victims does through action. The storywriters claim he's seen the lesson, he said "it was me" when Rita died but it's just not showing. Pisses me off. Uhh if he calls the cops in this episode Harrison dies. The only thing that saved Harrison was Travis seeing that Dexter (the beast) was still alive meaning he wasn't supposed to kill Harrison yet. There was a trained officer with a gun at the top of the building. If he was notified that Travis was on his way then lift doors open, guy shoots, GG. Dexter claims to have all these intense feelings for these people and yet he deliberately exposes them to serial killers to feed his obsession and would rather they die than risk getting caught. Dexter is a sociopath, he personally never thinks that what HE does puts his loved ones in danger. By using false names and hiding his family he thinks he has the whole situation under control. The revelation on the boat isn't that he needs to involve the police, its him wrestling with the idea of him needing to let go of being controlled by his dark passenger which was the reoccurring theme this season. As far as more people dying by his inaction. Dexter doesn't actually care about that. He's not killing these people to save innocents. He's killing them because he likes killing people. Or I should say killing bad people. Its his ritual thats been built up over decades of doing this. Which makes sense if he's a sociopath. But alongside that we have all the "I love Rita/Harrison" storyline which keeps on happening. He put himself in harms way with Trinity and Rita died because of it. After he did the exact same thing with Travis he didn't even worry about Harrison and then once it became clear Harrison was in danger his response was to get even more out of his depth, despite knowing there were trained police officers on hand who could save him. He's a massively delusional idiot who is a danger to himself and his family but I'm pretty sure the writers aren't doing it deliberately, the show is just retarded.
Well sociopaths have bad impulse control. And i think the show has done a pretty good job of Dexter growing gradually more confident and reckless. Just compare his first sexual encounter with Rita to Lumen to the girl at the reunion to the girl at the gas stop. As far as that goes i think writers are staying true to the sensible plotline.
In fact if the show wraps up accordingly this season might as well come out to be brilliant. There are less kills, less talk about kills and kills are growing increasingly more reckless. He's hallucinating more people. It might be very well that what is portrayed here is Dexter's decent into madness, accelerated by being torn by two contradicting impulses that bring him pleasure- desire to kill and desire to take care of people.
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The ending was fucking amazing. I thought I couldn't wait for the 5th season, but fuck that, I CANNOT wait for the 7th season.
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I went on showtime's website and listened to the guy in charge of the show guy give his thoughts on the last episode. Now I understand why Dexter is where it's at. It all makes sense to me now. This guy just doesn't get it I think... Just listening to him was cringe worthy for me.
The show definitely doesn't leave all these loose ends everywhere for Dexter to be caught on purpose. They legitimately think it's good story telling.
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On December 20 2011 02:09 yeint wrote:Regarding the syringe: + Show Spoiler +He definitely pressed on the plunger, but the easiest way to do it was for him to just empty the syringe while Travis turned his back on Dexter, putting Harrison in the elevator, then pull the plunger back. It doesn't really need to be saline since it's not an intravenous injection.
Did the already prepared decoy syringe theory get shot down? He already knew that he was gonna offer his life before he went in so he prepared it then.
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On December 20 2011 01:51 Robstickle wrote:
If Dexter was a sociopath he wouldn't care about Harrison or Debra nor would he have tried to help Travis or Lumen and I could go on but could we stop pretending that he's a sociopath?
Except his obsession repeatedly puts those he professes to love at risk and he seems to be oblivious to this. Not only does he not care about all the people Travis has killed since he discovered it was Travis but he wasn't even worried for his son. He followed the exact same pattern with Trinity, indulging his curiousity and obsessing over the kill while he put himself and his family in the path of a serial killer. He got Rita killed, he said afterwards "it was me" and then immediately went down the same route again. Either the writers are shit or he's written to be delusional, unable to break out of the cycle of putting his "loved ones" at risk in order to feed the only thing that really matters to him, his obsession with serial killers.
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Meh.. I'm disapoint in the end of the season.
I was like " Really, this predictable ? "
Atleast we have the gamemaker storyline to hope next one will be a good one, but the end of Travis vs Dexter is lame as hell...
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that was fun ending. wish the ending death would of been more of a struggle. but im ok. cant wait for next season
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The last 5 seconds of the show and the intern storyline are the only things that really mattered this season. But I'm OK with it. Just means next season is shaping up to the season I have been hoping for since the end of S2.
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I was sort of expecting it, but I didnt think it was bad.
Also, I think the writers are making some big mistakes in how to portray certain scenes, like the whole sequence with travis getting his son (where did the girl go ? He wouldnt leave his sons company to answer a deb phonecall in that place honestly).
All the buildings security cameras should catch it as well.
The officer on the roof acting like an horror movie victim
Its obvious he took an empty siringe, why not show it ?
Dexter is being reckless juggling all the aspects of his life, but some overlooks are too much
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While it might not have been the best season, it was high quality television. Obviously after so many seasons things get a tad repetitive, but I'm happy it is still on TV.
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On December 20 2011 03:05 Fyodor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 02:09 yeint wrote:Regarding the syringe: + Show Spoiler +He definitely pressed on the plunger, but the easiest way to do it was for him to just empty the syringe while Travis turned his back on Dexter, putting Harrison in the elevator, then pull the plunger back. It doesn't really need to be saline since it's not an intravenous injection. Did the already prepared decoy syringe theory get shot down? He already knew that he was gonna offer his life before he went in so he prepared it then.
According to an interview with Scott Buck at ew.com:
It was not a dummy needle. We didn’t answer that question, but we had an answer for it. It was just a little awkward to slip it into the footage. We showed him emptying the needle seconds beforehand, but it didn’t look right [in post-production]. We tried to address it in voiceover, it just became awkward and cumbersome.
Link: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/19/dexter-finale-interview/
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On December 20 2011 04:07 Terranigma wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2011 03:05 Fyodor wrote:On December 20 2011 02:09 yeint wrote:Regarding the syringe: + Show Spoiler +He definitely pressed on the plunger, but the easiest way to do it was for him to just empty the syringe while Travis turned his back on Dexter, putting Harrison in the elevator, then pull the plunger back. It doesn't really need to be saline since it's not an intravenous injection. Did the already prepared decoy syringe theory get shot down? He already knew that he was gonna offer his life before he went in so he prepared it then. According to an interview with Scott Buck at ew.com: Show nested quote +It was not a dummy needle. We didn’t answer that question, but we had an answer for it. It was just a little awkward to slip it into the footage. We showed him emptying the needle seconds beforehand, but it didn’t look right [in post-production]. We tried to address it in voiceover, it just became awkward and cumbersome. Link: http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/19/dexter-finale-interview/
Interesting thats how they wanted to deal with it.
The easier way would be how I actually thought it happened. He injects himself at an angle where travis cant see. So I had assumed he faked injecting himself. The confusion I thought was that people were used to the idea that they dont randomly stick their actors with needles and have gotten used to not actually seeing a needle go into some one.
The shot was from travis' point of view and he jsut squirted it against his skin.
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we couldn't deal with our plot hole because it was awkward and stupid, so we decide to just not deal with it at all
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man, the writers right now are pissing me off.
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Only season 3 with Prado/skinner ect. was worst than season 6, Im pretty sure that 7th and 8th season will be also "not so good". I just hope it will end with dignity, because a lot of shows that are extended over and over just to make money starts to become very bad and they feel nothing like first seasons.
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Anybody know where I can catch the last episode in good quality? First time i've missed it on showtime 
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On December 20 2011 04:34 rayvah wrote:Anybody know where I can catch the last episode in good quality? First time i've missed it on showtime
I have used tvduck.com because they're not accessible in the EU yet . there are some decent links on there, just pick the ones with yellow or green bars.
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i just want to say what dexter said at the end of the final : Oh God...
dont know if i wanna watch the next season. it feels like dexter died bit by bit, no more dark humor, less side killing then other seasons and the acting or let me say it like this, its feels dumb to watch dexter at the moment, calling the police with his cell phone at that boat, getting undetected in that hotel, getting his son out in a freakin lion costum and nobody noticed. iam getting bored with this and it just doesnt feel right to watch dexter, like it was previous seasons.
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At least it wasn't worse than S5, yey! Finally the ending I had hoped for 5 seasons.
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+ Show Spoiler +Although I like that Deb finally found out about Dexter, I don't like the way that the writers carried it out. Dexter went to the church on Deb's orders, so he MUST have known that Deb or other members of the department knew that he was there. Yet he just simply carried out the kill room right in the middle of the room instead of somewhere more inconspicuous such as the basement room with Gellar's body or upstairs. It was a really lazy and unthoughtful way for the writers to wrap up the season.
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On December 20 2011 04:48 sesma wrote:i just want to say what dexter said at the end of the final : Oh God... dont know if i wanna watch the next season. it feels like dexter died bit by bit, no more dark humor, less side killing then other seasons and the acting or let me say it like this, its feels dumb to watch dexter at the moment, calling the police with his cell phone at that boat, getting undetected in that hotel, getting his son out in a freakin lion costum and nobody noticed. iam getting bored with this and it just doesnt feel right to watch dexter, like it was previous seasons.
Reading the spoilers in this thread I am glad that I decided to not watch season 6. I will always remember the good parts of the show.
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